Are they perhaps confused what a game is? If they're thinking of a match then she needs to win 48 or 72 points in a row and she might get bored and double fault or something. Does Serena know she's supposed to win every point? Better chance of she is playing tennis like normal.
I have always felt there would be a chance, a tiny tiny chance, that over a three set match she could commit an unforced error and concede a point to me.
As far as me taking a point off her though through my own play? No way, no how.
Unforced errors happen when pro players are intentionally hitting at the very edge of what's safe, to increase the chance they'll get past the other pro. They take the risk intentionally.
There'd be no risk-taking needed against someone nowhere near their level.
I’ve actually played tennis. Unless you’re in good shape with solid knees and have handled a racket before you aren’t even getting a point of a Jr high competitor of any gender.
I have to say I'm dismayed by the number of replies to that screenshot that seem to think the point of the original tweet was actually about whether or not you could score a point against Serena. Dismayed, but not surprised.
It's mainly about claiming (correctly) that men have overconfidence in thinking they could win at something. (In the implied context of "against a girl").
But, just saying - the thing could have more accurate framing. That'd make the idjits more obvious
Yk I read a comic book, where a dude could stop time so he could read where an attack is coming from, and tbh, that's the level of help I'd need just to not get a black eye from the ball.
You would never get this. It's just another american straight white male, she probably faced worse in her prepairing through the life. On the court, no provocation will distract her.
And probably those idiots also believe she would go to such an extreme (like with an equal combattant) to even be close to risk even her first serve on such an idiot. That would be a complete and utter fantasy, only in the heads of those idiots.
This brings me back to when I was 8. Martina and Chrissy getting really good, winning majors. At 8 I would have thought my dad could win a couple points, maybe a game.
Why is it that 12% of men are still 8 year olds? Wrong answers only
I looked it up. Men and women professional tennis players double fault between 3 and 4 times per match on average. So you should back yourself to take 1 point of any tennis player, irrespective of gender.
Indeed, it’s a poorly worded question. You can also find videos of average people attempting to return serves that fast. Extremely hard but the probability isn’t 0%.
I am one of the seven in eight men who will confidently say that she would absolutely 100% destroy me under almost any tennis condition imaginable, including her literally wearing 50 pound weights on her legs.
I also have questions about the 28% who think they COULDN'T win a fight with a rat🤨
What are they considering to be victory conditions, here?
If the rat flees, is that a win for the person? Are they counting getting bitten as a loss?
What, exactly, would constitute victory for the rat here?
It took 3 of us, leather gloves, and a towel to get my cat in a carrier to go to the vet, and I still needed bandages for an arm. People taking this survey haven't had to do anything with any animal, ever, except possibly (possibly) cut up a whole chicken that's been already packaged.
I mean, I have some martial arts training. If I didn't care about hurting the cat, I might be okay against the cat. And maybe the medium sized dog. And if i'm allowed to pick up a long forked stick, maybe the cobra. But that's the limit.
King Cobras (Ophiophaugus) aren't true cobras (Naja), which all spitting cobras are. Still need a fairly long stick, as they've got a long striking reach.
Yeah, I had been thinking of how to say "as someone who's owned several cats the people who think they can take a cat in a fight are all being wildly optimistic" without coming off as joking versus completely serious.
For the lion, based on extensive knowledge of cats I would attempt ear rubs or chin scritches to attempt to convince it to let me live. It's not that I think my odds would be good, but they'd be the best I've got.
Well to be fair a lion can't form a fist, so if it used anything else to fight, that would surely be grounds for disqualification and so they would win by default... Admittedly while still being mauled by the lion but they would be the victor, and that's what matters.
I could beat a bear in a boxing match. About a second after the bell rung, the bear would maul me to death, which would be an illegal move and result in disqualification, giving me the posthumous win
you just gotta outlast it, right? just bob and weave for two or three days while it stands there occasionally moving to get food or water or to try and OHKO you with a trunk that’s bigger than you are
Simple. I will pull out a mouse from my pocket, which as we all know will cause it to flee in sheer panic, leaving a surprisingly clean-cut pachyderm-shaped hole through the wall of the nearest building, sealing my victory
I think we as mostly city-dwelling humans have lost touch of the fact that animals in general are freakishly strong, partly because our obsession with bodybuilding has warped our perception of strength. A chimpanzee's arms aren't that impressive or bulky, but he will rip you to pieces with them
Surviving? Running away? Defusing the confrontation?
'Cause while I have put large dogs into submission poses, I've also lost a round with a rat. But unlike the rat, I could re-arm with different gloves and I ultimately evicted the bugger.
Having had to actually wrestle an angry, screaming, biting-through-leather-gloves-like-they-were-butter house cat back into the house after he had a freak out, I can assure you that it is, at best, 50-50 odds of winning against a house cat.
In this example, a ball with the kind of velocity and angle necessary to pass through a human male skull, that ball is almost certainly landing out of bounds. Point: corpse.
I don't see this as a big deal at all - if maybe 30-40%, sure.....
Roughly 10% of guys think she'll get bored and make a mistake. If you've never played anyone really good, you have no idea how hard they hit the ball. Most guys, even great athletes, wouldn't even make contact.
For most of my life, the men and boys around me held that attitude. I asked my son who played years of competitive soccer if he thought he was good enough for the USWNT.
He doesn’t understand why I would ask such a stupid question. We are making minor progress.
Tennis balls deform to much to penetrate a human skull… especially ones as thick as those 12%. Better bet for instakill would be to serve into the chest and go for the heart stop.
The other 88%, if they had enough reflex to avoid being hit by the projectile as they cower may win a point from UFE.
And the guy who tried that was actually a three times grand slam champion and former world number one. He was too old and far too overconfident to beat BJK. But he probably could have beaten most of these people.
One in 8 men have such fragile egos that they can't even comprehend being so completely outclassed by a (clenches teeth) woman, that they have to convince themselves they could compete with her at the sport she has dedicated her life to being the best ever at.
We all must learn to accept our current reality and realize our actual abilities yet strive to grow beyond our capabilities. You could fall off a cliff.
The dichotomy within our culture puffs up men as “better than” and belittles women’s accomplishments creating inequities.
LOL rereading it I think the keyword is "say" - that like the pot bellied guy at the pub thinking he could easily join the entrance exam of the SAS or SEALS - self confidence is never in short supply ❤️
I think the real answer is that, if you assume the rules are that Serena has to try her best on every point like she would in a real tournament, there’s a decent chance she’ll double fault once during the match while she’s otherwise steamrolling me.
darkhorsemma on IG posted a video about how a bunch of his friends said they could beat weilei zhang in a fight (current UFC strawweight women's champ). it's ridiculous! the moment you lock up with her, she's going to break something!
I think, statistically, over the course of a whole best of 3 match, I could win a point by accident or because Serena just didn’t care to run after a return because it just didn’t matter, but I wouldn’t call it better than even odds
I could do it. I mean there's a non-zero chance she gets struck by lightning during the match and thus doesn't get the chance to send the ball through my skull.
Right. Tennis is a random enough game that I'd think anyone with even a modicum of skill could probably win at least a single point off of pretty much anyone else. Double fault. Errant hit into a net. Serve comes in at an odd angle they aren't expecting. A lot can happen.
Yeah but the survey doesn’t account for all the dudes who were like, “well she could beat me at tennis, but any other sport, I’m pretty sure I could take her”
"And another one bites the dust...Bob get the mop and bucket will ya? Today's gonna be a long Monday!" Smol Fox yokai who has job to pay for deep fried tofu asks coworker.
In high school I played a casual game against a pair of guys who were on the school's varsity team, and I did indeed take a tennis ball to the skull at high velocity. I have no illusions I could do any better against one of the best to ever do it.
Probably the same percentage that think they could fight a chimpanzee while it bites their face off and other important bits like fingers and genitalia
Honestly, I'd taunt her in the hopes she tries to hit me. My only hope is that she'd miss on the next shot because she's laughing so hard at a grown man cryin
I remember a wild story about a woman who joined in a casual soccer game with her husband and his friends without telling them she was on a regional championship team, and single-handedly *demolished* them
In the end they were begging her husband to stop her 😂
Even at my most athletic peak, i would have to have been very lucky to score a point against her.
On the other hand, i was a decent cross country runner, so i might have been able to beat her there (i don't know her running ability, so i could be wrong!)
I played tennis competitively when I was younger. I’m fairly confident I literally couldn’t touch a Serena serve. Her return of my serve would probably need to surgically removed from somewhere in my body. Those guys are idiots.
Another survey said that 71% of players think they could win a game against a professional tennis player. This isn't sexism, just a failure to appreciate how good professionals are.
The only way I could ever win a point in tennis against Serena Williams (or any professional women tennis plays for that matter) is if she were to make back-to-back service faults.
Classic. I still remember a comment where a second man takes the field and tries to serve. The ball goes right down his throat, causing him to choke to death. And his body gets added to the pile of others who tried and died
…and it’s is with heavy hearts and through streaming tears, his totally straight but weirdly consistently divorced friends cry out that was technically a fault and therefore they did score a point against her.
Yeah, this is what I think every time I see this. She would beat my ass until it glowed but there has to be some chance she’d make an unforced error. I think they need to reframe the question to ‘could you hit a winner against her’ to which no, probs not.
I think the hypothetical is missing some information that is important in determining whether I think I could score a point. For example, it doesn’t specify whether she is awake at the time. If not, I’ve got a chance!
Pick literally any kid on any tennis team anywhere and I'm extremely confident I could not score a single point against them. If I returned the ball legally even once, I'd be thrilled. 😂
I still can’t get over how many men seriously thought they could take a point off Serena Williams. *Serena Williams*! Where does that level of delusion come from?
I'd like to say it comes from watching sports where on any given Sunday the best team can still lose to the worst team in the league. They probably won't but sometimes they do.
But I know it comes from misogyny and privilege and untested confidence instead.
Look all I'm saying is I know the type, cuz I saw them a lot the last time any of us played tennis in highschool, and they struggled to score points against people on their level, you would literally need Batman level plot armor to score a point against her at the skill level of the average person.
I’m an objectively bad tennis player but have a bit of power and . The probability of me swinging blindly, connecting and winning a point is not 0.00%.
Would be the same answer if you’re talking about Djokovich.
your claim would sort of be true if your swing was just a question of placement but you also have to control timing and your reflexes are probably not good enough to move from where she sees your racket is to where she places the ball.
The only way you’re winning a point is if she double faults. Even in retirement that serve is coming down quicker than you could possibly react to it, let alone hit it well enough to (a) get it over the net and then (b) put it somewhere she’s not getting to it.
Yea but you'd have to win the rally not just hit the ball one time. This is the same as a casual smash player, thinking they can beat a competitive player, only to get single stocked by Diddy Kong.
Like you'd need divine intervention to let you score a point basically
I think a fair comp would be hitting a single off an MLB pitcher. In both cases these are experiments that have been done, and it’s obv crazy hard but not a 0% probability.
I'd play against her. Of course, she'd kick my ass. Yes, there's no dishonor in being defeated by the best, and it would be cool to say I got to play tennis with her.
If I had an obscene amount of money I would host a charity event where that 1 in 12 could step up and get their asses handed to them by Serena. Have it broadcast. It would be epic.
See I always thought that about this. Are these guys _that_ crazy? 12% isn't too crazy for "If she's playing an entire match with me, she will get so annoyed at how shitty I am that eventually she double faults out of no longer caring". But I guess the question is specifically one game, not a match
Hubris is the downfall of many men. She might be able to make a lot of money for charity if she did a "Think you can beat a girl?" program. While also ridding the world of some idiots. Win-win.
According to USTA, 24M tennis players in US (6%). 11.8 M played 10x in the last year (3%). So that means that half the men who responded this way DO NOT EVEN PLAY TENNIS. I think maybe the tennis pro at your local gym could score A POINT, so that's what, maybe 10k ppl (.003%) charitably?
That was my bil's point. Like if she thought she was playing someone actually hard you might get a double fault. If she knows you are some random dude then no.
The question was *could* not would though. I think it unlikely, but wouldn’t bet my house against it happening. Would also say the exact same thing re: Federer and would maybe put the odds higher if we’re playing 5 vs 3 sets.
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https://youtu.be/gm9iZnqGMvY?si=7XaqsNocyIhssao7
The match was a circus, and BJK was treated like a joke. She went on to transform pro tennis. Riggs is now just a footnote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(2017_film)
Unfortunately, I’m 7/8, and know better.
If not then I would be truly screwed
As far as me taking a point off her though through my own play? No way, no how.
There'd be no risk-taking needed against someone nowhere near their level.
So, lightning-strike type chances.
But, just saying - the thing could have more accurate framing. That'd make the idjits more obvious
Can't say the same about the bear though.
My American Straight White Male Unearned Overconfidence would surely make her do that.
she is *powerful*
Why is it that 12% of men are still 8 year olds? Wrong answers only
and yeah this is defiinitely a classic banger..
'properly tennis' makes me LOL every time, then i get to the rest of it 🤣
His position was that it was impossible
Mine was that however improbable, there was at least a tiny possibility of him winning
That said I wouldn't make a bet on it
https://www.newsweek.com/surprising-americans-beat-wild-animals-fight-experts-1691793
Nobody thinks they could wrestle a gorilla, a lion, or a freaking elephant.
What are they considering to be victory conditions, here?
If the rat flees, is that a win for the person? Are they counting getting bitten as a loss?
What, exactly, would constitute victory for the rat here?
Also (spitting) cobras can accurately spit venom at your eyes up to 3 meters/10 feet so you'd better bring goggles.
I see they've never met a goose.
In the end, I might be able to get the cat and the medium sized dog too, but it would leave me in more pain than them.
Clearly a number of people have never met a goose.
Surviving? Running away? Defusing the confrontation?
'Cause while I have put large dogs into submission poses, I've also lost a round with a rat. But unlike the rat, I could re-arm with different gloves and I ultimately evicted the bugger.
Not fighting is the win.
Of course he's a marshmallow, but he could if he wanted to.
I play tug-of-war with that boy and he is STRONG.
https://www.iflscience.com/americans-appear-to-believe-they-could-take-an-elephant-in-unarmed-combat-68847
Roughly 10% of guys think she'll get bored and make a mistake. If you've never played anyone really good, you have no idea how hard they hit the ball. Most guys, even great athletes, wouldn't even make contact.
He doesn’t understand why I would ask such a stupid question. We are making minor progress.
How's her darts game?
The other 88%, if they had enough reflex to avoid being hit by the projectile as they cower may win a point from UFE.
I would love to see some of these shitheads go up against a softball pitcher too
https://spongebobssquarepants.tumblr.com/post/144651619124/officialsegasaturn-i-hope-donkey-kong-walks
... That or it's coincidence, can see that either way tbh
The dichotomy within our culture puffs up men as “better than” and belittles women’s accomplishments creating inequities.
I bet those one in eight could safely be put on a don’t date list. 😏
https://youtu.be/dzA8_7X9uLQ?si=4m8ACBL7M_tZsSwz
That. Is. The. Only. Way.
https://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/November-2017-(1)/The-Man-Who-Beat-Venus-and-Serena-Back-to-Back.aspx
#VoteBlueToProtectWomenRights #VoteBlueToSaveDemocracy #VoteBlueToStopTheStupid
still great though.
But if I did, the serve would probably take the racket right out of my hand anyway, sooooo
In the end they were begging her husband to stop her 😂
On the other hand, i was a decent cross country runner, so i might have been able to beat her there (i don't know her running ability, so i could be wrong!)
"How would you beat him?
"Me? At night, with a stick while he slept.
But on a horse with a lance? That man is unbeatable."
Same thing here.
But I know it comes from misogyny and privilege and untested confidence instead.
Would be the same answer if you’re talking about Djokovich.
Like you'd need divine intervention to let you score a point basically
(Killing me instantly) Hahaha
10/10 would watch
I say we test it out. Blanket waiver against injuries caused by Williams.
If she is specifically playing to not drop a single point then she is not gonna double fault.
If she is just playing and doesn't have it out for you specifically then a double fault is an out.
But let's be honest, that is not what any of the 8% where thinking about