Expand that touch to fully supporting him and anyone else that opposes the Orange Stain party! And under no circumstances should you refer to them as the “M” word!!!!
Trump started effing Ukraine in 2019 while he was still disgracing the office of the president. Tried to extort Zelenskyy to get made-up dirt on Biden, leading to 1st impeachment. This is what a 1000% lying sack of dog poo looks like.
And if Mitch McConnell had any sort of ethics whatsoever, he wouldn’t have protected the treasonous sack of shit and voted to impeach him but here we are… just waiting for both of them to die…
So you want to make a hero of the guy who helped trump win the first time, and stood by him right up until the end when it only affected him personally? That guy? He's your one? GTFO. So far out that the line becomes a dot, then FO some more until you can't anymore. Then keep going.
Pence is a hypocrite. He might be defending Ukraine in this tweet; however, he is still complicit. He is a Christian Nationalist to the core who still sides with MAGA.
Absolutely. We're at that point. Anyone who will take on this fight on any front is needed and necessary. (And I was grateful that he at least put the Constitution first when it counted.) I would never, ever vote for him, but I'll welcome him to the fight!
This is so true, however painful, they must be welcomed & encouraged. The incredible @mrjamesob.bsky.social spoke a lot about the EU supporting Brits (remainers) forgiving the people who voted for 🇬🇧 to leave Europe (leavers) in an act of self harm so very similar to MAGA
This is so true! I’m Certainly not for Mike Pence across-the-board by any stretch of the imagination. However, his speaking out is ever so Paramount during times like these with Trump & Putin going to Saudi Arabia. Without Zelensky.
You need a majority of the cabinet to agree with you to invoke the 25th. And even then the president is only temporarily removed for 21 days, unless 2/3 of both houses of Congress agree to then remove him permanently before the 21 days have expired.
Indeed, and I do believe those insurrectionists that trump let back loose on the street, had designs on hanging him. I very much doubt he feels safe knowing those types hold a grudge.
I don’t like Pence’s politics at all, but in terms of decorum, practically a saint compared to most of the gop.
I'm no fan of Mike Pence, but good for him. We need more of this from prominent Republicans. The country is being wrecked right now, so I'll take any ally we can get.
And NOW Six Pence None the Richer has balls? 🤦🏻♀️
“There is freedom within
There is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead
Many battles are lost
But you'll never reach the end of the road
While you're traveling with Pence.” https://youtu.be/ZUHKDHkRasc?si=LqhQ-b7QTMKw1ukN
At least someone spoke out over there. I can't believe ole Lindsey Graham has appeared to keep his mouth shut, he was always a war hawk against Russia. Mitch also.
I’m still skeptical but maybe the reality check finally sunk in for him.
Completely off topic, but I still think
Dark Brandon should’ve been a DC Comics character.
More. Please more Republicans stand up to this lying menace dictator & for the TRUTH.
America is in a very bad & dangerous spot right now aligned with Putin.
PUTIN!!!….FFS.🤦♀️
You've no allies left in the world now save Russia and North Korea. We might have to ally with China in our war against a Nazi America, and Australia should definitely declare war on both countries now that we know we are facing Nazis in both America and Russia. England still a moral country, least.
Just a matter of time before he tries to invade Australia, but get through Europe first, but when they've taken over Europe, Putin mainly rather than America, who blackmails country for half their wealth to avoid Putin, then we're on the chopping block. We may as well lead the way against the Nazis.
This is why he's cosying up to Russia. He doesn't see Russia as a threat. He sees China as a threat, and he thinks Europe has driven Russia towards China through the Ukraine war. This, I think, is a ham fisted attempt to distance China from Russia and fuck the consequences to Ukraine and Europe
Only symbolic, but I'd wear American bombs for Ukraine, it's like the Palestinians, they're still people, but they voted for Hamas, a terrorist organisation, USA is now simply a giant terrorist organisation, extorting Ukraine, basically being like Russia, and rewarding them for their recalcitrance.
If you're not with us you're against us, it's not really negotiable. People will die standing. Putin and Trump, well, maybe one is just stupid. I think both, evil, even if one IS stupid.
Bannon is yesterday's MAGA. Trump has shiny new boosters, so has thrown Bannon under the bus.
He has just not adjusted to his new role as axle grease though.
At least he is standing up to Trump. I hate all that he stands for with regards to LGBTQ but he seems to be the only Republican with enough guts to say something to Trump! Guess having "Hang Mike Pence" endorsed by Trump pissed him off.
Good point. Agree that he should have spoken up more frequently and often. He barely spoke after being threatened. He is a coward. But maybe he can inspire other cowards to step up. One can hope...
He’s not the first. We went through this whole “Republicans renounce Trump” song and dance during the first Trump administration. Harris campaigned with warmonger Liz Cheney more than her running mate.
He petted the dog that Donazi and Natasha were afraid of, so it was evident he’s not a sociopath. A repressed gay guy and a dad, too dependent on a sky god but maybe some hint of human compassion in there.
I feel you, but he’s not crazy and he’s not a Nazi. When you fight Nazis, you fight alongside everyone fighting Nazis. Because Priority One is beating the Nazis. After we win again we can go back to our separate corners.
Where was this when he was VP?!? No that he is out he’s found his spine but before he was standing there nodding along to lies & playing dumb when questioned about it.
It's all about who you pick your fights with. Pick your fights with Trump, Musk, Vance and his goons, and don't pick fights with people who criticize them.
Ha! You think he found the error of his ways? He is only speaking against Trump is because he sent a mob to hang him. He ain’t speaking against all the little Republican white bitches sucking Trump, isn’t he?
Screw that. He needed to and still needs to do a whole lot more. Spineless coward. Some empty words on Musks fascist site don't move the needle much at all.
We can also agree with skepticism. First, we can support this comment because it aligns. And if we ever get rid of the orange menace, then watch what this guy does to see if he’ll still align. It’s the long game, ppl.
Biding his time until he could be president. I’d bet money he never believed Trump would make it through his first term. I also think we need someone to appeal to the religious crazies at this point. He might be it.
Pence got what he wanted: the criminalization of abortion. I suspect he probably had a change of heart right about the time Trump threatened his life on Jan 6th.
Russia invaded Ukraine afterwards, during Biden. As much as I disliked the Trump - Pence administration I feel it was 100% better than whatever we have now :(
Rus. Invaded Ukraine in '14 with the annexation of Crimea. Then it began an op to destabilize and overthrow from within, during Trump 1. Trump admin reversed pressure policies on Russia. It began troop buildup in 2021-22. It crossed the border a second time in 2022. Look... context. u lost it.
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I have many friends from Ukraine, as I studied abroad. I also work for an NGO the help people in need. My political thinking is moderate. The Crimea invasion was bad, no question. But what happen 2022 was a terrible war not an invasion. Different level of magnitude!
The word "ambivalent" was coined to describe my feelings toward Mike Pence. I cannot think of another person who I intensely loathe and admire at the exact same time. It's a very strange way to feel about someone, but he has earned both.
Today's Republican Senators & Congress people know Trump's a liar and a fascist but keep thinking it great to be the party in power & it wont affect me UNTIL IT DOES. Almost 250 years & it's on our watch when it failed because of enabled Republicans & SCOTUS majority.
He lost Dump when he said the word "Truth". Should not be lost upon anyone reading this that Dump is a weak individual. Who wishes he could throw a straight jab. So mind you. When around real people in power. He creams his pants with excitement. Or his diaper
Stop!!! People make mistakes. Mistakes are a learning tool. See my other post. Embrace him, and let’s get back to empathy, collaboration and compromise!
Trusting Mike Pence is a terrible idea, and he is still a homophobe who wants to bring about the end times. We should not, in fact, be cheering him on.
No one said to cheer him on. No one said to trust him. I said embrace his help. If you embrace his help and listen perhaps he will listen to us and see the light snd change!
No, we have empathized, collaborated and compromised ourselves into fascism. That only works when BOTH parties are using the methods. Now is the time to use GOP tactics and any others they can (dirty or otherwise) to save our Democracy.
Wow. That view is so far from reality, I gotta check my pulse.
Yup, still alive. How can you possibly think that the GQP cult will collaborate and compromise? Are you serious?We as Democrats should attempt compromise with a cult that will never do so? Not happening. Can't be civil with this cult.
Then that makes you as bad as them! Did you ever see the posts about a person that keeps saying God will save me? While multiple attempts are offered to the person to save them? When they die god says I sent all these people to save u snd you refused them? Think about it!
It's called "dropping to their level," which is required for this undertaking of dismantling the trump regime.
And no, I didn't see that post. I don't read cult drivel from brainwashed cretins who think some carpenter outta Nazareth is the son of god. That's hysterically laughable.
No it’s not dropping to their level! Actually just the opposite! Look I am pissed as anyone. I am more than willing and capable of taking this to a physical level. But, we have options and tools to avoid that. Let’s embrace all the help and kick these ass holes out of government and prosecute!
In a world such as the one we live where politics lie full-time and backstab constituents with legislation no one asked for except their billionaire donors.. doing one's job is in fact worthy of praise. A lot of praise. So is spreading the truth.
Umm, collaboration doesn’t require anyone to empathize with their enemy. It simply requires a mutual acknowledgment that you both want to survive, so working together at this moment in time, is the right thing to do. Remembering who they actually are is also the right thing to do.
It's called "aligned interest" when trump tried to murder him his interest aligned with the antifa sector of American opinion. But he is a self-interested Theocratic threat to women's rights and he is opposed to separation of church and state.
And what is wrong with that? There will always be issues with multiple sides. No one can have everything they want! Empathy, collaboration, and compromise is the secret to peace! They intentionally divided us! Pull together! Embrace anyone will to oppose the Orange Stain and his traitors!
Let me put this in a way you can best understand- we do not like Pence.
We will not invite him for dinner.
We will not go to his house for dinner, even if invited.
We will however exchange recipes with him.
We are Americans! We are different but Americans! We are not enemies! Get that out of your head! That said there is a line that no American should cross and we need to unite on what that line is. The orange stain has without doubt crossed it. Anyone that opposes them gets a pass for now.
Nah. Pence made nothing but mistakes all during Trump's first term and learned absolutely nothing. He had one weak-ass line in the sand which was "pretty please don't end the constitution", and since then he's made zero serious effort to follow up on that.
Please stop! Embrace anyone that opposes the Orange stain and his minions! Believe me, I am as angry as anyone. But we need to re-learn empathy, collaboration, and compromise! They intentionally divided us playing off our issues and fostering hatred! Don’t let them win
I'm all for people trying to improve and be better.
Also knowing most deserve the chance and support along the way.
I've also done and seen enough to know better than thinking he's all for The People now.
So you are hanging onto a railing about to fall to your death because some white supremacist pushed you. They see the light, realize the error of their ways and offer you help. Are you going to refuse it? Are you that stubborn and stupid? Isn’t that what some dumb as MAGA would do?
It has to start with one! Be the bigger person! Listen, collaborate, compromise! Believe me I am as angry as anyone can be but we have to work together! They intentionally divided us! Pull back together and send these fucks to hell!
I hear you! I have friends that are Ukrainian and I donated money to help them. Embrace anyone that is willing to help! There will always be issues and multiple sides. We have to have empathy, collaborate, and compromise!
Ok, give him a chance to do that. Consider this: Putin can never back down because he has no where to go. He dies if he is not in power. What does he have to loose? So he just fires the nukes and hopes for the best. Republicans r in that boat. If they can’t come back, die with the devil!
Sorry not sorry… I have no empathy for Pence. He should have spoken long before now. Staying quiet during the election cycle was his attempt stay loyal to his party instead of the country. He is no better imo.
Ok. Let’s put your resolve to the test. Do you work for the government, if so walk out. Do you use social media, stop! Do you buy from Amazon, stop. Are you willing to go to war against your fellow Americans? If yes I will join you. Before you do look at how many died in the civil war!
Yes, I’ve stopped buying from Amazon and cancelled my membership. I research companies to decide where their values align before I shop. As for social media, I do not use Meta or X anymore. I volunteer with the Democratic Party in my VERY red state, even though I’m not a democrat. Move on, thanks.
Asking me if I am willing to go to war because I have no empathy for a man who stood silent on the sideline during the election cycle is a bit extreme. However, no, I do not work for the federal government.
So many people say how they will never forgive maggots because they voted for 🍊. They've basically thrown them away.
My sister voted for 🍊 3 times. I haven't, nor will I ever throw my sister away.
I'm wondering if those people would be forgiving.
I didn't phrase it correctly.
Simply … not true!
He stood against trump during the first insurrection and that benefited the American people and the Constitution.
I despise pence but when the truth is spoken acknowledge it as the truth!
He kissed Trump's ass for 4 years, gazed at him like he was the Chosen one & supported every maga policy.
He had to call former VP Potato Head to see if he could do what Trump wanted on J6.
He would have thrown out the EC votes if he could have.
Pence sat silent throughout Trump's first term. He could have spoken up so much earlier than he did. He waited until the election. That is the problem I have with him. He knew what Trump was doing and said nothing.
He did what was required of the Vice President, any Vice President. With a real threat against himself and our country he refused to follow trumps instructions and certified the election. When required, he stood with the Constitution.
💯 a journalist reported that Pence spoke about Trump with “almost reverence” at a speaking engagement the month after J6. He might have integrity but he’s still has a lot of screws loose.
What's worse is that "doing the bare fucking minimum expected by literally everyone" is somehow such a radical thing for Republican politicians to do that people praise them for it
He did. He could have overturned the 2020 election but instead he did the right thing. He’s doing the right thing now, too. I’m not a fan of the guy, but I appreciate every single person who’s willing to step into this fight and be brave - because we are fighting for our lives. And our country
He did his damn job on J6th like every VP before him, but only after he got reassurances from Dan Quayle that it was OK to do his damn job. so good for him, but following the law is not an act of heroism. Good for him now too for doing what's right, I hope he keeps it up.
Big fucking cheers! I tire of the "but what about then?" crowd who chide and chide the WRONG people. Bro, if these cretins in Congress who claimed to hate TFG but now love him, can sell out, them some old adversaries can join our cause. That's how politics works, unfortunately.
Yes. Roll your eyes all you want, but this is where America is. MAGA republicans are NOT doing their jobs. None of them. EVER. When one turns against the tide and does his or her job, we clap. It's that much of a rarity.
The fact that he called Quayle suggests he was looking for a way to comply with donald's demands. I'm glad he made a statement, but he can't be trusted to be consistent since he was silent for four years. Praise him if you must, I'll take a wait and see approach.
Shannon, hoping same thing. I wrote to my (R) Senator yesterday. Last part of letter:
The reason I chose you to write to is because I have heard the love and pride you have for America. I respectfully plead with you to stand tall. It will only take a few to become many.
Mike Pence, should of kept sticking up for the Constitution and ran against DJT in the election. Everyone thank Jill Stein for helping DJT take over our country, she knew damn well she would be getting votes that would of went to Kamala.
Theoretically if he ran, he seems liked by Republicans but would lead to a divide of those who support him and those who support MAGA. How many that is is not something I know though.
not at all...he spoke to former VPs, lawyers, everyone he could to see if there was ANYWAY he could not certify the election...that wasn't "courage" that was "he had NO choice" which made it easy
He’s done enough damage with his actions. This certainly doesn’t atone for those sins. But it can’t hurt and at least he’s speaking up which is more than we can say for most Republicans. I give him Kudos for having a pair.
This is why admire Liz Cheney. I can't think of another Republican office holder who had the spine to call Trump out while they had something to lose. Pence, McConnell...rot in hell.
Speaking against t at this juncture is definitely not for the faint of heart...I thank anyone who'll do it at this point, even knowing they betrayed America. I'm happy for them to come clean now.
Unfortunately that turned a ton of progressives away from supporting Kamala, she was out campaigning with warhawks like Liz and Dick Cheney, maybe you forgot, Dick Cheney is a war criminal who lied on Israel's behalf and got us into endless wars in the middle east.
Honestly, I didn’t follow politics or cared to until Trump announced his candidacy in 2015. I was outraged by his style. I could not believe anyone took him seriously. & when I realized I lived in an America I didn’t like. Remember vividly the moment he said “when I took over America” after he won.
My 16 yo daughter often asks me in disbelief, "are people really that dumb that they can't see he's lying to them" Trump did make politics mainstream, people forget Trump is an entertainer not a politician, he likes gimmicks and taglines a very effective marketing campaign.
Agree. Smart girl. I want to think that ppl are not as dumb as they portray and then I see a post from one of his supporters and change my mind. They are that dumb. 😩
Fortunately, as humans we have the right to change our points of view, even if it was just to defeat the threat we now are trying to deal with. I still gained some respect for her.
Same for Adam Kinzinger. I used to tell him off all the time, till he took the position in the 1/6 Commission. Then he started earning SOME respect on my end. Same w his willingness to oust Trump after 1/6. Ppl have a right to change their points of view. Isn’t that what we are attempting to do
If the change is genuine. Liz voted 93% of the time for Trumps agenda. She only started speaking against Trump after January 6, after that she was shunned by the GOP and she had no choice but to be friendly with corporate Dems like Kamala. If Trump were to change would you forgive n forget?
If those “progressives” were deluded enough to turn away at a time like this because Harris failed some litmus test, I’d say they’re unreliable and wretched, and their value in a coalition is diminished
Yes they should have voted for her and we told them that - AND it's high time Dems stopped trying to appeal to the right and instead embraced the progressive policies that consistently get supported by the majority of Americans.
Kamala started with a strong progressive message, she was winning support than she started catering to her donors and Israel she switched messaging to appeal to the rich that gave her 1 Billion in campaign donations, raising that amount of money is not normal. Means corruption.
Interesting point of view. We have a word for supporters like you "blue MAGA" you'll give your support to the DNC even when they lie to your face. Values means sticking to your beliefs regardless of consequences, your values are talking points just like MAGA.
Mitt Romney was the first ever senator to vote to convict the president from his same party. Mitt is top of my republicans to respect list. Pence is working his way up.
Pence is a chicken shit trump tried to kill him, and pence will never hold office again he's weak should have stood up against trump had some balls ....what did he gain nothing
McConnell robbed Kentucky for years and years folks voted for him time and time again and he did nothing for Kentucky they have some of the worst schools high rate of public assistance food stamps yet folks voted for him why,? Because most poor uneducated maga types see rich white guys as important
Yes but who is the audience of his post? They believe Fox, and if Fox is quoted as saying it, then that’ll help what he’s trying to do. But also fu*k Pence.
Actually, it's more damaging than reporting from MSNBC. Many Trump supporters rely on Fox News for"journalism" and would blow off the news coming from any other channels.
He caused an HIV epidemic in his home state when he was governor. Screw him forever. The damage he did he can try to undo the rest of his life - won’t fix that, or all the crap he did while VP. He can minimally try, w little posts or whatever, but I still hope there is a hell bec he’ll end up there.
It’s never too late to protest. He could’ve done nothing, and this is better than nothing.
Drumpf is going to start WWIII and I want EVERYONE to protest that. 😞
I hear you but if we take that attitude with all of the republicans who could potentially turn on Trump then the others will see that they are not welcome and stay with him. If we win this, we win this together, not by shaming those who came on late.
We aren't going to win this by embracing the people who brought us here. Pence represents the kind of people who create the opportunity for a Trump administration to exist through their promotion of bigotry. He can fuck off forever because we're all better off without him.
I'm starting to like these rogue Republicans. I would never support them politically, but I have never agreed more with my own Senator, Mitch McConnell than I have in the past eight years. Or, 47 years, depending on how you look at it. 🤷♀️
We can still apply pressure. It matters now if they refuse to comply with the batshit things Prez. Muskrat and the orange turd want to do. Their fascist takeover only gets done with compliance by other people.
100% stomp him out! Recall election! Someone in the Secret Service needs to recognize these Orange Stain traitors as the clear and present danger to the United States that they are!
390 million weapons in circulation in the US. Can we find some Americans with some balls to put him, JD Wanker and Felon Musk bullets in their heads? And probably to some other traitors as well.
We’ve known for years that TheRUMP is a Russian agent. Voters don’t care. This is the USA. Preserving Racism is far more important than preserving democracy.
He was an agent of Russia for decades. Clinton called him out on it during the debates. (Remember “No puppet. No puppet. You’re the puppet”?) No one listened. Destroying the US is his goal- make no mistake about it.
So not the ear, please, next time but 2 to 4 inches further to the right. And not once, but twice as it seems the replacement, the couch fucker, is even worse.
What Republican senators are being referred to as "appalled". All I see are pearl clutches and boot lickers crawling all over their golden idols for favor.
I agree that tRUMP deserves all the negative names, but I visit truth social refuting lies and see that the tRUMP and the MAGA cult throw around names like a three-year-old. Don't we want to be better?
Naturally, but in this instance when addressing someone who tried to have him killed, I think it would be rather amusing for Pence to drop all pretense, plus...
Granted Pence has sat on his hands more often than not. But this statement is definitely not cowardly. Trumps MAGA cultist already want to nail his hide to the wall. And this official comment isn’t going to win him any favors with that crowd. He could’ve just played it safe and kept his mouth shut
Pence could have prevented Trump, instead, he deliberately delivered the Evangelical vote. He's one of the architects of this madness. Don't be fooled.
If Jimmy Carter was still alive and healthy we'd hear it full blast. I am disgusted with the lack of responses from the still-living former presidents.
I could point out the reasons why this allegory could be seen as insensitive to women and sex workers, but that would be hypocritical of me because lmao
No......No you don't get point for doing your job.
Nor should you get points for trashing your own country and watching out for the interests of a foreign state.
He could and should have article 25d Trump after Jan 6. I wonder if what stopped him was not wanting to serve a 14 day term and have that count against the 8 years he was promised.
Frankly, I have had it with these coward, fair-weathered people who stand up at the very last minute but can’t seem to do it when it matters or when they are asked to vote for a black woman instead of a dictator. (Yes, I know he stood up once when it mattered).
Fuck maga! Actually don’t call them that because that is what they want! Call them the Orange Stain Party or just Traitors! I officially volunteer to be Mike Pence’s bodyguard! Embrace him and any Republican that opposes these traitors!!!!
MAGA hates anyone that dares to stand up to the 🍑✌️of 💩. It doesn’t matter if they are former VPs, Presidents, Generals, foreign leaders, acclaimed journalists, scientists, his rape victims, his niece, his former lawyers, aids, Capitol Hill Police officers….They are ALL wrong.
Yes, I DO! I disagree with him about almost everything but I was sad for him that day. I am in tears just thinking about him now. He actually believes in the constitution so I have to give him much deserved credit.
I think a case for that is building right now. I just don’t think there are enough courageous people in the room where it needs to happen. They are all beholden to Trump. #SavetheRepublic
#FightAutocracy
Well our dear leader has declared himself king. He has embraced our #1 enemy.
Lied about the war and most importantly has consistently embarrassed this country on the world stage.
Some MAGA are getting more radicalized. Although they always love to “own the libs” as a political strategy, there is an increase of safistic posts that have very little amount of dem interaction. There are no “cry harder” posts. They operate in an echo chamber of sadism for its own sake. Scary!
I feel the same. No one deserves to be persecuted, called to hang for adhering to the Constitution, performing his duty without influence. I will always respect him on that day.
Don't give the spineless toady that much credit---he had to call DAN QUALE of all people, to ask him what he should do...he was within a whisper of going ahead with it.
Seriously, this. People need to stop falling for this bait of a Nazi pretending to take a moral stand. Pence was simply more scared of being held accountable than he was of Rump.
He's STILL a Nazi! He's still working with them. He's not a good guy!
Nah, fuck him. The dude has supported conversion camps, he's a monster. If he died that day I would not have shed a single tear for that slimy fuckwad.
But here’s the thing. When these R voters start to feel the crazy and want and need to find their landing place away from MAGA, who are they going to look to? Many won’t ever vote for Ds, but if Pence and others can give them an alternative, why dismiss that? That’s just not smart imho.
What needs to be done, though, is we need to get in every elected Republican official's face and tell them that Vice President Bunker Boy and Junior VP Shady Vance need to be impeached and convicted.
I hope they go to Pence! He believes in the constitution. I just would never vote for him. I don’t think MAGA will ever embrace Pence. I could be wrong. It just doesn’t seem to be going in that direction.
Sure, that's a possibility, but we should demand better of our elected than "they didn't kiss trump's ass THIS TIME!" Afterall, he betrayed his country once for power, and we all know he'd do it again if he could.
First don’t call them maga because that is what they want and to some extent validates them. Call them the Orange Stain Party or traitors. But… embrace anyone that opposes the Orange Stain and his minions!!! We need to get back to collaborating and compromise
No! We need to un-divide! We need empathy, collaboration, and compromise! No one can have everything they want! This is what those bastards are using against us. Unite, compromise, and win!
Not brave so much as 'actually adhering to Biblical canons'. Sorta, kinda, 'cept for that never disagreeing with Trump until if he did, he knew he could go to jail.
With the GOP that is brave. They all claim to be Christians but none of them follow the canons. At least he has some sort of moral line he wouldn't cross.
where is Mitt Romney? Why isn't he out there? In fact where are the ex-leaders of both parties who all took oaths to the Constitution that this asshole is destroying?
I'm one of the few Pence apologists it seems. He has many positions I would disagree with, but had shown the bare minimum level of integrity that is sorely lacking among many of his peers.
It might be a low bar, but it still is sticking your neck out of a crowd, even if the crowd seems insane.
Have to agree. I don’t adhere to Pence’s private views but when he takes an oath I have to admit he upholds it. He reigned in Trump last time and when push comes to shove upheld the constitution in the face of adversary. He will be remembered in history in a positive light during a dark time.
Pence kept quiet while campaigning and ‘serving’ what he knew to be a monster but said nothing…with all due respect he is undeserving to be listed with Cheney and Kinzinger, they quit, Pence just was quietly not elected.
Don’t put Pence in with Cheney and Kinzinger. Pence is still actively trying to get back in the good graces of conservatives and did little to nothing to try to prevent a second term of this orange asshole who tried to get him lynched by his 1/6 mob.
Standup up and sticking out in support of a worthy cause is sorely needed. It's the number one deficiency of the submissive posse erstwhile known as the Republican Party. This is also what gerrymandered districts have wrought, and Heilon Musk's threat to target dissenting candidates.
that is the problem, "he has many positions" . He stands for nothing, a puppet, he speaks simultaneously from both sides of his mouth, another agent of propaganda and chaos, a clear snake in the grass, spineless. Shall I go on?
What if Dark Pence had stood up on J6 and enacted the 25th Amendment? What if leaders like McConnell and McCarthy had taken decisive action? We would not be facing the current turmoil if they had done their jobs with integrity and courage.
President Biden respects the Constitution. He doesn't believe the US has dictators. He also doesn't believe in telling the AG who to investigate and prosecute and who not to because then the DOJ is an extension of the administration, there to help friends and hurt enemies.
Legislative branch failed us in 2021, and it continues to fail us now in 2025. He's rendered that branch utterly useless in it's function and duties as defined in the constitution.
Never too late. We will take the help…from wherever it comes. I, too, wish he has pushed to remove trump…but he stood up on Jan 6 and he’s standing up now.
Indeed, yet I appreciate him publicly calling this out, because he has some influence in the Conservative circles and that is what is needed to get more people engaged. I don't think mosy people who voted R in November thought all of this will happen.
36% ish, didnt BOTHER TO FRIGGIN VOTE, because what the democratic candidate wasn't perfect? Because she was a woman...
What if just a few % had voted...
McConnell and Mccarthy etc. Are to blame but gaddamit...
But Pence did certify the 2020 election despite calls by an angry mob incited by his boss for his hanging. For me, that was a glimpse at something I wished then that we’d seen more of in him. Seeing bits more of it now is better than never.
And it’s more than the cowardly GOP Congress are saying.
Oh please, he only did it after calling around to see if there was any possible way he could do what 🍊 wanted him to do. Dan Quayle of all people is who told him absolutely not.
Mike Pence could have done more, no question. But when the mob attacked the capitol, Pence refused to comply. He followed his oath to the constitution. And even when his party rejected him, he has maintained integrity. He has my upmost respect.
I think people working under the orange ghoul are de-balled. It takes a little while to become re-balled. Let's take whatever support we can get right now and forget the should haves.
I agree. However, he refused to speak up during the last election cycle. He helped create this. He needs to step up even more - daily at least - to break this chokehold of the Republican Party that he helped distort.
That's not a good plan. If it works, if the Mike Pences of the world are able to take down MAGA and put things back as they were, the GOP will immediately go back to the same traitorous shenanigans that made Trump possible.
If he wants to do the right thing, he can do it alone and without applause.
Magats yes but there r many who voted for 47 but r now questioning that decision. Pence, as much as I loath him, could play a roll in bring around some of those voters 2 common sense. BUT! He should never be able 2 run 4 office again. He can make reparations but never hold power again.
Unfortunately he'd be immediately hated by the Republican party. You can't fight this stuff with information, they've created blind party loyalty if it supports their agenda, and blind opposition if it doesn't. My grandmother just said that Liz Cheney is a Lesbian Marxist.
Pence clearly stated that he would not be voting for Donald Trump, which in another time would have been huge news. Pence is not my brand of politician but he seems to be a decent American. So many others in his party remain silent about the endless Trump lies and corruption.
It is hard moving forward w/ those whose choices got us here. But he is showing immense courage in confronting this right now--who else in the GOP is? We can't allow anger--tho just & righteous--to detract from building the alliances we need to save this nation. It will take all of us.
Yes, it's too bad he didn't start acting like that earlier. T might have thrown him aside, but at least it would have been because he refused to cower. I'm glad he survived Jan. 6 and did the right thing.....he was lucky that mob didn't get hold of him.
I agree. Hopefully there will be MANY more people speaking out against Trump and we cannot shame them back to him because they once fell for his BS. We need everyone to stand against him no matter when they come to their senses!!!
Agreed. He wasn't in position to invoke the 25th at that point. Although I'm terribly uncomfortable about being put into the awkward position of supporting Pence. SMH.
While I do agree in general, too little too late is still better than nothing, and I'm not one to punish for what I want to see:
Pence calling Trump out for lying.
Some people take longer or drastic setbacks before they start being better people. (Optimistic, not naive)
I don’t believe in eternal damnation but if there some sort of afterlife punishment system….i hope McConnell gets the harshest punishment bestowed upon him.
Exactly. I also wanna know why haven't we heard from the old guard - Clinton, Bush, Biden, and Harris & the list goes on. We need these leaders to start speaking out loudly & start to organize. Hell, we need our elected officials to start too. This is not a time to be quiet & follow old rules.
It’s tempting to blame only one person, but I saw a wider, systemic failure. I said when Biden was elected that the only issue to focused on was J6 and democracy, while people were angry.
Instead, the Democrats en masse tried to make things look like “business as usual”.
So from 1/20/21 to 1/3/23 when Ds controlled both chambers of Congress and the White House, they were productive, getting the pandemic under control, grew the economy & passed legislation. After that, they didn't control the House. Therefore, I must wonder what you mean.
With you on the pandemic, but otherwise I would have prioritized rule of law and democracy above all of that, because the result is that we now have a dictator for life.
All of those economic gains are irrelevant now. Likewise, the legislation. That’s gone.
My question is what could he have done? Told Garland he HAD to prosecute Trump and would fire him if he didn't? That's becoming the evil we are supposed to be fighting against. He didn't foresee Garland is an invertebrate? Guilty. Otherwise, what else could he legally have done?
The Democratic Party had a narrow majority in both chambers while facing the pandemic and pandemic driven inflation from 1/20/2021 to 1/3/2023 and they passed 8 pieces of consequential legislation in that time while getting the pandemic under control. From 1/3/2023 on Rs controlled the House.
Oh, *now* he decides to speak up? Listen Mike, thanks to you and your fellow Republicans (McConnell) we are now witnessing the destruction of our Democracy and government in real time.
The Germans let Hitler be Chancellor because they thought they could "control" him. See how that turned out.
You claimed to have principles, but when it mattered most, you betrayed every single one of them. You stood by, excused, enabled, and let that bastard take control. Now, when it’s too late, you want credit for speaking up? Spare us.
Wow!! This is a bold statement from Trumps ex-Vice!! I understand why some people don’t want to accept anything from Pence as right or good but if we go that rout Putin has already won. We have to leave the door open for those who realize what’s happening even if they were Trump voters.
Gauging by the look she gave Mr and Mrs Orange Turd at Pres Carter's funeral -- I bet she told Mike to speak up long ago. And loved that she refused to attend the inauguration, just like Michelle Obama.
Russia invaded Ukraine for the first time 11 years ago, on 20 February 2014 (Putin gave orders 6 a.m.), starting the war in Crimea, then moved up north to the mainland.
Maybe he should be on Fox saying this and spilling all the other beans he knows to be truth, maybe it would snap some of the cult members out of their slumber
Exactly. That's what will really move those who thought there would be no harm in Trump getting back into power. Probably convince a Republican Congress to step up, too.
Biden, Clinton, Bush, and Obama would be ignored and/or jeered spectacularly and/or used as proof that the Deep State doesn't want Russia to win.
The problem with the far-right's narrative is that it's extremely flexible, takes no damage, no matter what the source. Any contrary info is waved away
Pence never felt 100% comfy in MAGA shoes. He always reminded me more of a religious-y Bush era throwback. And of course that's what makes Trump 2.0 so dangerous - everyone in his orbit now are total "Yes" people ready to do anything he demands.
Please stop! People make mistakes! If he is willing to help embrace him! Embrace anyone the opposes the orange stain party. Even God will absolve those that truly repent! We need to embrace anyone that opposes the Orange Stain party! Do not refer to them as the “M” word!!!
Liz Cheney voted lockstep with Trump's worst policies until January 6th. That doesn't grant her hero status.
And yes, Hagan Scotten's letter of resignation should be framed and hung in the halls of the capitol building someday. My same sentiments for Danielle Sassoon.
When pushed against a wall real men show their courage. Now I didn't think that would be Mike Pence. But thank you Mike Pence. He's putting a target on his back and still speaking truth
Dude refused to capitulate to Trump regarding certifying the 202 election. Pretty sure he has a spine. Pretty sure he’s a standup guy, even though I disagree with him on policy. People need to reassess their evaluations of those in the opposition.
Yes he did do that. And now that he has no political power, he continues to do that. But he was also in lockstep for four years of fuckwittery that I haven’t forgotten.
Just a few minutes ago I read a list of representatives and senators all from the Trump party who spoke out against Donnie's disgusting words. And when Trump wrote that he just proved that he's the puppet of Putin
Sadly, Republicans have no spine and it is an embarrassment to our Nation that a sitting U.S. President is owned by #Putin and the U.S.S.R., Military members who fought for Democracy and made the ultimate sacrifice are rolling over in their graves
#SlavaUkraini 🇺🇦
What’s most embarrassing is how our military sits idly by while we are actively taken over in an illegal coup. Nope, they’re not gonna defend the constitution or the people.
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#SAVEOKLAHOMAKIDS
#USA4UKRAINE 🇺🇦
#AMERICA4NATO
They got what they voted for.
Take me out of this #simulation.
Mike Pence has never been dark?
I don’t like Pence’s politics at all, but in terms of decorum, practically a saint compared to most of the gop.
“There is freedom within
There is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead
Many battles are lost
But you'll never reach the end of the road
While you're traveling with Pence.” https://youtu.be/ZUHKDHkRasc?si=LqhQ-b7QTMKw1ukN
Let the exNazis do what they want. No need to pause to beatify them.
Completely off topic, but I still think
Dark Brandon should’ve been a DC Comics character.
America is in a very bad & dangerous spot right now aligned with Putin.
PUTIN!!!….FFS.🤦♀️
Nice to have him show up finally.
He has just not adjusted to his new role as axle grease though.
Far too little, far too late. Pence is virtue signalling at this point.
He's not your friend. He's not your ally. He's a piece of shit doing a political stunt to win support for an election or w/e.
This is a failed strategy.
I blame Christian Nationalists like him for the mess we’re in now. But if they wanna fight Nazis…
What say you:
@aoc.bsky.social
@amyklobuchar.com
@markpocan.bsky.social
@chuckschumer.com
#resist
This is absolutely not the time for virgin purity, it's the time to fight.
Yup, still alive. How can you possibly think that the GQP cult will collaborate and compromise? Are you serious?We as Democrats should attempt compromise with a cult that will never do so? Not happening. Can't be civil with this cult.
And no, I didn't see that post. I don't read cult drivel from brainwashed cretins who think some carpenter outta Nazareth is the son of god. That's hysterically laughable.
Which, considering it involves US Politicians, can it really be seen as a misread?
We will not invite him for dinner.
We will not go to his house for dinner, even if invited.
We will however exchange recipes with him.
Once they stop being a class traitor, then we can talk about empathy for them.
Also knowing most deserve the chance and support along the way.
I've also done and seen enough to know better than thinking he's all for The People now.
People need to learn saying "sorry" ain't enough.
He needs to actively repair the damage that yes, he too, caused.
You don't get to put out a fire you started, and then be treated like a fucking hero.
He can be the canon fodder, to atone for the blood of the working class in his hands.
My sister voted for 🍊 3 times. I haven't, nor will I ever throw my sister away.
I'm wondering if those people would be forgiving.
I didn't phrase it correctly.
He stood against trump during the first insurrection and that benefited the American people and the Constitution.
I despise pence but when the truth is spoken acknowledge it as the truth!
He had to call former VP Potato Head to see if he could do what Trump wanted on J6.
He would have thrown out the EC votes if he could have.
The reason I chose you to write to is because I have heard the love and pride you have for America. I respectfully plead with you to stand tall. It will only take a few to become many.
His greatest accomplishment is being a toadie to a fascist. He wouldn't have split the GOP, it's wishful thinking that he would have.
That, plus all the random extra spaces and the plea for single women to DM you make me think this must be a bot account
https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-progressives-bernie-sanders-closing-message-9b37850eec2c8181213fbe4980dcd79e
Evidence of Dick Cheney being a war criminal?
https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/ccr-news/canada-should-investigate-dick-cheney-war-crimes
Thanks.
She liked the lies from right wing media into Trump entered.
There's no subjectivity there - that's what he did.
Pence is a spinless coward, just like every other MAGAt member of the GOP party.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-invades-ukraine-largest-europe-attack-wwii.amp
Never tried to make up for something?
What,exactly?
Drumpf is going to start WWIII and I want EVERYONE to protest that. 😞
OMG, I’m rooting for Pence!
Duh! If Ukraine started the war, why was all the fighting in Ukraine for over two years.
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We really thought Donald was telling the twuft.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-news-doge-musk-02-19-25/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book
https://theconversation.com/donald-trump-spying-allegations-more-likely-useful-idiot-than-putins-agent-154300
https://bsky.app/profile/barmanpolitics.bsky.social/post/3lijiss2qmk2w
#noking
#nomonarchy
#nosurrendertoputin
#noabandoningukraine
#nocutstohealthcare
#nocutstomedicaid
#nocutstomedicare
#nocutstosocialsecurity
#notaxbreakstocorporations
#notaxbreakstotherich
#nomuskinmybusiness
#keepyourtinyhandsoffpubliclands
Like all tyrants before him there’s only one way to stop him.
Resist. Oppose. Revolt.
Because is clearly sucking soo much Russian dick
It was a joke.
Terracotta Terrorist
Spraytan Spunkmuppet
Butternut Bitchtits
To name a few.
Dickweed - Fuckhead
Tomato - tomawwto
Oh I like Fuckhead. That’s much more of an attention grabber
Although he did not cave to trumps demands.
This must be rural usamerican slang, since I, as European, don't understand a word of it.
...
Wait. I get it. drumpf il muzzelini's grandfather whorehouses.
Nor should you get points for trashing your own country and watching out for the interests of a foreign state.
#FightAutocracy
Lied about the war and most importantly has consistently embarrassed this country on the world stage.
He's STILL a Nazi! He's still working with them. He's not a good guy!
What needs to be done, though, is we need to get in every elected Republican official's face and tell them that Vice President Bunker Boy and Junior VP Shady Vance need to be impeached and convicted.
Unfortunately, the Republicans are spineless...
So we could also do a lot better, we don't need to settle for mike fucking pence, scumbag extraordinaire.
/sincere
It might be a low bar, but it still is sticking your neck out of a crowd, even if the crowd seems insane.
Though I was really disappointed in him during the campaign.
He did the right thing at the time. It almost got him killed. There is really no one in the White House with even that tiny shred of integrity, now.
But whoever wrote this for Pence is correct.
Growing a pair now is too little, too late.
What if just a few % had voted...
McConnell and Mccarthy etc. Are to blame but gaddamit...
And it’s more than the cowardly GOP Congress are saying.
If VPs could do that, we'd never have one term presidencies.
If he wants to do the right thing, he can do it alone and without applause.
Pence calling Trump out for lying.
Some people take longer or drastic setbacks before they start being better people. (Optimistic, not naive)
Instead, the Democrats en masse tried to make things look like “business as usual”.
They normalized it.
All of those economic gains are irrelevant now. Likewise, the legislation. That’s gone.
So it was, effectively, not even done.
Relentless media blitz: print, website, TV, YT, TikTok, FB, Twitter. Leverage Hollywood relationships.
Talk about nothing else in interviews.
Subpoena everyone, including members of Congress. Open source the evidence for all.
Convince the public.
The Germans let Hitler be Chancellor because they thought they could "control" him. See how that turned out.
You got that right
Elon! Get The Fuck Out of America!
Trump, Go Away, and Shut The Fuck Up!
You would think they would realize how unpopular these moves are and would save their jobs.
What kind of magical hold does Temu Nazi have over these people?
The problem with the far-right's narrative is that it's extremely flexible, takes no damage, no matter what the source. Any contrary info is waved away
The real heroes are people like Danielle Sassoon and Hagan Scotten.
Yet few know of them.
Why? Because the Democrats are busy fellating Liz Cheney, and now Pence.
And yes, Hagan Scotten's letter of resignation should be framed and hung in the halls of the capitol building someday. My same sentiments for Danielle Sassoon.
I like the sound of that.
https://open.substack.com/pub/marlowe1/p/the-witching-snakes-pt-11?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=sllf3
You said there was a list of Rs speaking out. Please share with the class
John Thune
Don Bacon
Mike Lawler
Brian Fitzpatrick
Lisa murkowski
John cornyn.
And of course wicker
#SlavaUkraini 🇺🇦