US liberals talk about protecting democracy a lot but they seem to revile it in practice. the idea that a politician should ever be required to do anything to win votes, rather than simply represent an amorphously 'good' or 'bad' team, is treated as some sick heresy
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Dems make the politics people, tell us what they plan to do. (infrastructure spending, vaccine distribution, the right to make our own healthcare decisions…)
Your excuses for MAGA selling influence to the highest bidder are pathetic. Not democratic.
They have led us to fascist autocracy in realtime.
Legitimate
• 1992
• 2008
Your mileage may vary
• 2000
• 2004
Weak claim to legitimacy
• 2016
• 2020
Didn't Happen
• 1996
• 2012
• 2024
“I’m not a member of any organized political party, I’m a Democrat”
Imagine actually thinking Americans get to choose a politician that's actually about "winning votes", while only ever considering presidential elections.
Most of the time, we completely understand the assignment. But no one really listens to us but expect us to clean up messes.
That is freedom. If you don’t like it, go try another country.
But that is the system in this country. It’s not perfect, but you only are convicted criminally if it’s beyond a reasonable doubt.
what you imagine in a paranoid, imaginary world doesn't make it a reality in the real world.
FWIW, Bush is in that category, but do you see people still living in the past with that debacle.
Let it go.
Our electoral system dates back to a time where there weren't 1.7 billion people in our country, so we need to rid the electoral college and go by popular vote.
And intelligence, facts never s felon.
But while I used to make sense 10 years ago makes no sense today
I think a lot of “liberals” think liberalism just means no rules, which of course, isn’t
When was the last time the Democratic Primary was resolved without the bigwigs intervening?
2004? If even then...
But the intentional dumbing down of America has been happening for decades.
everyone else must work extra hard for the liberals so that they can enjoy their privilege in peace. any support for a marginalized group is conditional and they will never give anything in return.
Put down the STEM textbook & go read some history; not the stripped down kind taught to you in grade school. Liberals only move when leftists push.
Like I said, *delusional* and ineffective. The group that has virtually no elected representation anywhere in the country (and never has) thinks it has any power to do anything?
https://bsky.app/profile/glimmerofthechyron.bsky.social/post/3lflzeo2rjs2g
Political parties aren't ideologies. And it's "leftists" like Sinclair who wrote the Jungle improving food prod/labor. Leftists like MLK who fought for civil rights.
You're a liberal sycophant.
You are doing the thing by deflecting criticism of Democrats with, "but the other guys are worse!" Yeah, that's why we're not bothering with them!
I think there’s a tension between voters who go do politics differently.
ZIONIST ANYONE: "how dare you holocaust holocaust holocaust"
It's just dropping flares or jangling the shiny keys.
I will note still; I think calling them Dem leadership/establishment libs offers more clarity & utility, plus less risk of pointless tangents
Because most of the future progressive base that’ll be mobilised in the coming yrs will come from social liberals
And I know a local Democrat who thinks it's pointless to canvass diverse apartment buildings, because AND I QUOTE "they don't vote anyway".
One of the reasons my participation in party activities ended very quickly.
Doing anything actually good (Ex. Community service) doesn't benefit you anymore than making a photo op of it.
That’s always going to be a conservative bloc.
However, the problem comes when the policies that are popular may not be in the best interests of the country and vice versa.
Hence why populists thrive- they don’t care about country or what’s right.
But that aside though, the Democrats can't even fall back on that excuse. The Republicans haven't won a majority of the vote since 2004, and by the standards of US elections the presidential ones are amongst the fairest!
Democracy™ is for chumps. It's an ABC Afterschool Special.
Also Democrats; "Let's now argue we are the lesser of 2 evils!"
Also Democrats: "Why do voters have a purity test for being good!?"
At that point you're just fighting over voters willing to accept some evil
And in that case, of course the most evil group wins
if you’re not involved in primaries, of course your voice isn’t going to be heard
when it gets to the general, you do what the rest of us do and vote against the guy who’s going to make things much worse for everyone
I had one liberal on here a few months ago say that they would vote for Trump if he ran on the Dem ticket against someone who was worse
Getting government to actually do things is much harder, especially when the people who also want the government to do things won’t vote for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>not convince people to vote for you
>lose
>?????
Conversely, political pleas from the repub base were courted while they told the dems to fuck off.
Comparing the strategies, one keeps failing.
The rest of the world generally has a more nuanced systemic view of the problem.
The absolute tone-deaf racism of white Democrats makes me want to scream.
Instead... "You're a fascist" and case closed
And you will realize what truly happened which gave us Brexit and Trump .
"Hahuh, nobody will vote for your terrorist campaign. Might as well give up now, we know how this is ending >:)"
And then they act all surprised and cry when they lose. Make up your goddamn minds.
WELL AS YOU CAN SEE BY MY SHIT PANTS YOU WERE INCOMPETENT AT TELLING ME NOT TO. CLEARLY YOUR FAULT.
You are both self absorbed brain dead queefs
You actively threatened to let this happen to try to get your way, and now that it's happening you pretend it's other people glad it is. Go fuck yourself
So you just only care that you're right.You don't care about the Haitians, Mexicans, Canadians, America or all the people who are gonna die from this bird flu. Cause you're gonna be right about one issue?
Just so you know, Greg’s reporting has actual numbers from the government. Factual. No theory. Again, you might be interested in reading his reporting, it’s really enlightening.
Because Kamala was so ideal.
- Monolithic right-wing media
- Weak, feckless legacy media
- coordinated social media disinformation campaigns
- Racism
- Sexism
- And too many liberals upset over our support for Israel's slaughter in Gaza.
its the fault of their politicians !!
How much of a fuck up need you be ,
that people vote in Liars ,rapists , racists ,
nazis and authoritarian con men over a democracy ?
which is...wild considering that's the basic foundation of a political campaign
In 2020 when we did our job voting a workable number of people in, and a number of democrats withheld their votes or voted with the gop on various bills. That is their JOB they are PAID TO DO IT. Why is the blame on normal voters even when they choose right?
Fucking toddlers.
But also - I think looking at your own vote as an endorsement of everything the candidate supports is a mistake. We don’t live in a country with approval voting, and pretending otherwise just cedes power to others.
The party gets the same choice as the people.
Dunno how I'd begin to unpack it, it seems completely pointless to even try.
And then Hitler wins. Twice.
Tell me Biden didn't *do* enough. The country was functional.
Liberals don’t support the private prison industry. We get 💩 all the time for being “soft on crime” by the people who attack the police and the pardon the criminals who did the attacking.
Liberals take credit for it
Conservatives pretend it magically appeared after they stop fighting against it 50 years later
"can you please be a decent human being and help our suffering and maybe not kill children"
"best i can do is one time tax credit and deporting immigrants"
Hes the reason rupublicans won. Or did u not know? Lmao.
Is opposing genocide a “political taste”?
Is expecting promises not to be broken a “political taste”?
Democratic party is an empty vessel.
Obvs, I disagree, but it's the mentality behind it
They're obviously failing at it though, so I'm not sure that's the case
Can we start understanding that "liberals" in the colloquial understanding is "the left?"
Seriously, if you want to persuade, this is the basic understanding.
I love you all, but, I'm begging you...
https://youtu.be/nHS5mAf5Hlk
It's about 90% of US who don't.
It's the only country I know of where politicians are treated like the 2nd coming of christ rather than some guy in a suit.
https://youtu.be/Sk2Cu_qPP44?si=Gl3i-g75Wpbg0awR
And while I'm still not convinced this was the moment to stop playing, I get it.
They forget what happened on the Night of the Long Knives.
They're everything they say they hate.
"Sorry babe, I'll do netter next time."
"I'm doing this for you!"
"I'm the best you can do, you dont deserve better."
Dems are out here astroturfing for fascists and asking us to trust them.
If you truly think they did that you're just fucked in the head.
Campaign funds could go back into community efforts (which would be filmed) and there would be no advertising on legacy media.
For people of color, we're experiencing the rolling back of 60 years of enforcement of our civil rights.
Latino Americans are getting raided.
Try to bargain your own rights instead of someone else's.
You're not going to find sympathy w/ most ppl of color.
But we never, ever can bet all the progress we've made for the progress we aim for.
That's what this was.
People bet it all on black & we lost 60 years of progress instantly.
We should push for more parties. We should challenge parties that exist.
But we can't gamble
I've been told to vote for the lesser of two evils my whole life, and my life has fundamentally gotten worse every election since I've been of voting age.
During the election, I volunteered with the Democratic party. After the election, I started volunteering with grassroots parties.
Both are fighting.
We have many tools to push for change and defend the progress we've made so far.
Liberals are the only ones who actually do anything. Conservatives, by definition, are supposed to put restraints on liberal exuberance.
US politics is purely vibes based and divorced from reality.
Biden bailed out the Teamsters and got the rail workers better conditions without needing to strike, but they still vote for the explicit union busting candidate because reality is irrelevant
Like you gotta walk the walk and not just talk the talk if you get what i'm saying