There are no communist countries. China is capitalist, so is Vietnam, Russia, and Cuba. All of them allow for individual capital accumulation. All of them use communism as a blanket for their authoritarian ideals, Marx would loathe them all. We need REAL communism, like what Marx wrote about
Socialism or democratic socialism would be a much more manageable transition to make.
I'm saying this as someone who at one point loved the concept of Communism, but realized that humans can't implement it properly... yet. We're still too irrational
Yea communism is the extreme which socialism pushes us towards. A stateless society with no classes is way too much to achieve any time soon, but socialism is well within reach, so long as we defeat fascism.
History kinda shows us we can't have both. It's united front or communism. Economic development in the USSR was forced into the same kind war economy as the UK and Germany. The Spanish civil war put revolution aside (violently) to confront Nationalism. The ACP put all criticism of the USA aside.
You said we can't have both communism and a united front against fascism and your reason was the USSR. My response was they were not communists. Why come we can't have both?
i wish americans realized that they are basically hardworking cattle and they're being abused by masters that expect more and more of them for less and less, and that there are actually masters out there (while still masters), who would actually treat them better. they're so brainwashed.
America needs the silent majority republicans to get off their collective asses & do their job. The Constitution gave them "power of the purse", which they gave to trump & the oligarch minions. Time to take it back & do the job they were elected to do. By remaining silent they are complicit. Resist
By the vast majority of the left socialism is seen as the path to communism — a stateless, propertyless society where resources are shared by need. Socialism is only a transitionary phase where we dismantle exploitation for collective control. Marx explores this in Critique of the Gotha Programme.
If statelessness is the goal, why risk a socialist state phase? History shows that transitional states become tyrannies. Anarchism argues for abolishing the state with capital, building freedom and abundance directly from below. Peter Kropotkin’s The Conquest of Bread talks more about this approach.
socialism is the transitional stage toward communism and inherently more repressive, idk why you'd prefer that over over a stateless, classless society other than just not knowing what those words mean
I don't think it will hum along peacefully but I also wouldn't describe any single day of the American experience to be peaceful. If we're going to have global white supremacist genocide anyway, we might as well be able to see a doctor too
can't own land -> can't own fixed industry -> all industrial output is socially owned and can be distributed democratically, i mean that's basically communism simplified
And when you describe it as 'libertarianism with extra steps' you sound like someone who hasn't read even a morsel of the 2+ centuries of communist theory to draw from.
well based on your reply I concluded that you are ignorant because that's the most reasonable conclusion to draw since that definition has nothing to do with Lenin
Someone not understanding a joke about how propagandized the western world is about communism -- and thereby showing a direct example of the commentary the joke was trying to get across is just 👨🍳💋
Hard to write it off as a joke when it’s an actual thing pushed by a disturbing number of online communists. I have no quarrels with the economically far left until we get the authoritarian, anti-democratic bits. If that’s not you, then that’s not you. 🤷♂️
I said qualify, not that anyone would be compelled. Also, under the Biden admin for a moment we surpassed the highest per capita incarceration rate under Stalin.
serious question though: what would *you* do about violent, genocidal ideologues organizing terrorism and coup attempts against your preferred goverment?
you're being given the option between slavery and uh, not that, and you're picking slavery because you were told by the slavers that the other option was bad
For someone who has lived under communist dictatorship this is downright scary. And double scary is that people somehow see this as an only alternative to trumpian hard right. There are plenty of places on earth where people live well without going into those extremes.
That sounds a little better. I don't have a problem with being able to make a lot of money. But corporations will be taxed at 70% and being a billionaire will be illegal.
Making a lot of money is the problem. The resource imbalance of even $100 million being in private hands when that's 2000 years of earning a median paycheck is going to cause problems.
I think the purer forms of Capitalism have been good. But that's not the Capitalism we have right now. We need a lot more regulations and guard rails on it to get it out of being the Runaway Predatory Capitalism that we have now.
yeah let's implement a 100 years old ideology that gave birth the idea of current social democracies. let's go back in time and support a fascist like regime but this time instead of a rich orange person would be 5 people from the hood
it's so insane to me how the communist party of the 1900s gave birth to our current socialistic models and yet you'd rather go back in time and fuck what we currently have rather then admitting what we have it's good and we can improve it
legit 12yo historical & political knowledge, pathetic
socialism is a transition point between capitalism and communism. communism is just socialism but instead of the state taking money from rich people and distributing it to workers, the workers just directly own everything
Are you gonna stand here pretending that it is true that "communism" as a concept and political space has remained unchanged since XIX century and tell people that they have 12yo historical and political knowledge, all at the same time?
In that case I have several definitions of "insane" for you.
"Like, dude, how can't you not agree that what we have is good? So insane"
yeah, what we have is good. Insanely good. Gee I'm beyond myself about how good it is to be a subject for consummerism and exploitation either I want it or not.
Nope. We need Capitalism together with Socialism. Those are two beasts that should be chained together to balance each other. Each one by itself is a menace. But together will work better for everyone.
Capitalism requires economic inequality to function, because there must be a large impoverished group to exploit in order to extract wealth from paying them far less than the products of their labours. This means hungry children. That's not 'work better for everyone'.
… a state capitalist and authoritarian… as opposed to Canada which is social capitalism (used to be regardless of which party won but not sure about the Conservatives these days)…
The far right joke about the left saying ‘socialism has never been tried’, but it’s half true. Soviet Union was socialism in name only. Definition of socialism is ‘workers taking control of the means of production’ and Lenin put a stop to that quickly after taking power. We need real socialism.
There's also not a single attempt at communism that hasn't been aggressively opposed by the US with sanctions, billions spent on propaganda and either war or a coup.
Every attempt has been blocked aggressively by capital
I understand it. It's the best bad system we've come up with. It's imperfect but less imperfect. Marxism fails in practice because 1) politically and culturally, you cannot coerce people into cooperation and 2) economically, you cannot centrally plan resource distribution
Tell that to the Chinese under Mao, or the North Koreans today, or the citizens do the former USSR.
Trump is not happening with liberal humanist values supporting him. He's thriving on an alliance between theocracy, corporate oligarchy, and a new brand of fascism.
Ohhhh I get it, I stumbled into a commy slice of the internet. I'll be leaving you to your idealistic nihilism and fever dreams of power. Newsflash: if you were to get your hopes, you'd be the one under that boot buddy. Read up! https://guides.lib.unc.edu/cul_revolution/booksarticles
Replying to a thread that starts with "Guys we need communism", and then backtracking with "I didn't realize you wanted ACTUAL COMMUNISM" is way funnier than it should be.
Umm it's inherently idealist. Here you are, trying to change my mind (idealism). See the cultural revolution in Maoism or any of the other myriad examples of communist regimes attempting to get everyone to "will" success into existence. Read other books than the ones you're reading, maybe?
Stoopid looks like ad hominems against someone you don't even know. But you can assuage you're own fears about your intelligence cuz you have an identity, good little steampunk communist. So happy for you.
Nah, too late for that tbh. We're all pretty aware that those countries are also heading to misery because they are capitalist countries at the very core.
I mean this kindly, but ya'll don't need communism. *Gestures at the Soviet Union and Stalinism etc* What you NEED to Nordic style social democracy a la Norway/Sweden/Finland/Denmark etc.
we needed it 30 years ago. I think right now Communism would only be the most effective damage control. but we’re already fucked. and it’s not coming, I think the hogs might actually rather the world end before capitalism
Damn I hadn't thought about that. I'm proud that liberal capitalism has never resulted in slavery, violence, concentration camps, or exploitation of it's people.
That's been my lived experience as well. But I have to point out that there have been many communist/socialist states that didn't have food lines either. I'd also point out that the reason that we have cheap, plentiful food is because of exploitation of the global south and exploitation of Ag labor
Most of my friends came from Laos and Vietnam, so my knowledge is limited. Which countries specifically didn't have food lines?
I was sent to pick almonds, tomatoes, and cabbage in Salinas California as a kid because my folks needed extra help to put food on the table.
In all my 26 years of life myself, my friends, brothers, or random people be sent to prison for wearing glasses.
In all my 26 years of life, my mum always had the freedom to put a Jesus portrait on the kitchen wall without being forced to put a politician above it.
Ah, ok. Well, you're entitled to your beliefs. I would say going full on communist would go about as well as full on laissez faire capitalism. Extremes are bad. Human nature doesn't lend itself well to full on communism without it turning Authoritarian. Full on capitalism ends badly as well.
I don’t think a classed society or capitalists are needed and we are at a point where we can provide for everyone and democratically control land and the means of production. Capitalists will always seek to deregulate and expand profit as long as they exist.
That's fair. I think it's a very noble idea, however I think that our nature as animals evolved from the stresses of scarcity will always cause us as a species to horde resources.
Capitalism gives human nature an incentive to continue improving technology.
Capitalism incentivizes greed and exploitation. How much innovation now is a scam now? How often do capitalists suppress real innovation by monopoly? Most of human history we lived communally. Capitalism is not our nature. It was / is violently imposed and maintained.
You do realize Denmark and all of the Scandinavian countries are also going in the reactionary direction right? This is because they are capitalist and exploiting the 3rd world.
That doesn’t usually last long because the capitalists still control everything and constantly try to destroy regulations and worker power to increase profits
Mein Großvater kämpfte gegen die Sowjets.
Nicht für Ruhm. Für Heimat. Für Freiheit.
Kein Kontext. Kein „aber“.
NEIN.
PUNKT.
Wenn du das nicht verstehst, verstehst du auch nicht, was Widerstand bedeutet.
I love how you openly admitted that you are proud that your grandfather fought alongside the Nazis in WWII. It just really shows how idiotic the whole "liberalism" movement really is.
I was fortunate to have spent a year of my life in W. Berlin, and got to spend some time in E. Berlin/Germany... no one needs communism. It was held out as a shining example of how communism was superior... and it was a fucking dump.
For someone who hates socialism, you seem to love being publicly owned.
I guess the kink your bio refers to is having your arse handed to you on a silver platter
That's a good point. I never met my paternal grandfather because he died fighting the Nazis. Anyone whose grandad fought against the Soviets seems unlikely to brag about it. But here we are.
Okay, but have you seen that absolute banger of an insult on their pinned post? Apparently Trump is like a mean step dad who pretends to be a dad but isn't.
Yeah, we're not forgetting Romania, we're just pointing out there are two countries that fought Russia and self-defense, and all the rest joined Germany in their great "lets ethnically cleanse Europe" crusade
Yep. A lot of Romanians, sadly, sided with Nazis regarding Jews and did their own pogroms and murders of Jewish people. My grandfather was a farmer and was conscripted into the army. He was a cook, so he thankfully didn't participate in any of the actual warfare, but he saw some stuff.
Either you never took history in college, or high school, or your grandfather was a Nazi. Either way, this was a dumb thing to post for the entire world to see.
Americans fought with the Soviets against the Nazis in Germany. Either you're completely ignorant, generally unintelligent, or choosing to rewrite history for some reason
Our most charitable case for a third option is that they don't realize that despite taking place during WWII, the Soviet Invasion of Finland is not typically considered *part* of WWII.
Your grandfather was a Nazi? Because that is who fought against the Soviets in WWII. If your grandfather was an American, then he fought against the fascists in Europe or the Imperialists in the Pacific.
"Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism?"
"Socialism," he retorted, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism.
Hey, Love for All's supervisor? I just want you to know he is the *worst* fucking op you have on your team. Like, the dudes with shit English and number-names are more believeable.
You gotta write him up or send him to Siberia or whatever the heck you do, cause they reeeeeally suck at this.
Just because a group calls themselves something, doesn't mean that's what they are. Trump calls himself a patriot. He also calls himself smart. I rest my case!
If you think Nazis had anything to do with socialism because they put socialism in their name you're an idiot who needs to read literally any history book. In fact it was socialists and communists who were the first to fight AGAINST the nazis, before lazy isolationist Americans joined the effort.
In the early stages of the occupation it was socialists and communists who spearheaded the resistance, with protests, strikes and sabotage. Many were rounded up and put in camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
Well said, Brian. 👍✊✌️😊
And also ......
Methinks @stoporangefascism.bsky.social is very ignorant.
Even trolls (imho) know better than to post nonsense drivel.
Do you think nurse sharks have medical degrees? What do you think about great tits, or buying something called a blizzard from a Dairy Queen, or the activities and findings of the House Un-American Activities Committee?
The people who fought against the soviets where the axis powers. The allied powers and the cominterm fought together against the fascists. Please look at a war poster from D day or something
Omg. Come on. My great grandfather was thrown In a concentration camp for being socialist.
You could have used Google, if you slept through high-school
JFC, you ARE an idiot. Are you actually MAGA masquerading as a liberal? Nazis were fascist, using the term socialism as a propaganda tool. Read a f*cking book, Miss Love for All.
Wow, I thought people have understood that the nazi party had nothing related to actual socialism ou communism, actually they were completely against it, they pursued and killed many socialist and communists.
Nazi party used terms, and visual symbols that socialists adopted to create confusion.
Have I got news for you about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, too.
It's "national socialism" and the fact that it allied with Weimar's conservative and nationalist parties against liberal, socialist, and communist parties should make it obvious who they were, and weren't.
Oh dear, the Nazis adopted the word "socialist" as a way of competing with the Communist party which enjoyed mass support but they were explicit in their hostility to socialism.
Actual socialists were the first to be thrown into concentration camps. To the Nazis "Bolshevism" was a jewish ideology
You must really want to live in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea then. After all, they're for the people, they're democratic, and they're a republic!
I liked your post but I process cautiously regarding the DPRK 🇰🇵. All I really “know” is what the propagandists from the fascist 🇺🇸 Empire decided to tell me. And we all know everything about the Us is a lie.
You ever think about this statement for a second? Just... maybe... the conclusions you could jump to? Or the logical statements one can deduce from what you wrote?
You see... You claim to be antifascist... And I don't know if you are a history buff, but during the WWII the URSS fought against only one enemy: the Axis, aka the fascists, nazis and japanese far-right.
Ooh fun, you watched that video on YouTube of the guy gaslighting far right twitter into supporting leftist views and now you're trying to do the opposite. That's really interesting to see, but you as a person are a fuckwit.
Ukraine never HAD nukes
you're thinking of the Soviet Union that hasn't existed since 1991
the Soviets had nukes in Ukraine, when the USSR was illegally dissolved, they took them back
glad to help
She's not wrong that an entire city including millions of people should be vaporized in what would for all we know be the initiation of a nuclear war in which we also would be vaporized? Is that what she's not wrong about you unbelievable dumbass?
The thing about Poe's law is it works both ways. Right wing creeps may have beliefs that are indistinguishable from parody, but that means that parody is indistinguishable from being a right wing creep. So at some point you are literally just disseminating Nazi propaganda.
The answer is definitely some Balkan or Ukrainian fascist partisan force. Those people always feel comfortable spouting off and get surprised when people Google "what were the two sides in WW2".
There's a difference between a 'dictator' feeding poor people at the expense of a few rich cunts and an unironic dictator bleeding the poor dry to keep his rich cunt friends a little happier
I’m no expert on communism, but look at Russia where Putin is a thug dictator.
“According to the critics, rule by communist parties has often led to totalitarianism, political repression, restrictions of human rights, poor economic performance, and cultural and artistic censorship.” from Wikipedia
Russia is an oligarchy, not a communist state, and hasn’t been for over 30 years. Putin’s regime is a corrupt capitalist kleptocracy, where billionaires hoard wealth while the working class suffers. Calling it 'communist' is pure ignorance, communism is pretty much the opposite of what Russia is now
I stand corrected, thank you. I guess the point I’m trying to make is that Russia was a communist country after the Bolshevik revolution and it didn’t work, so it devolved into a corrupt oligarchy.
and I'm sure the richest countries in the world doing a cold war to them forcing them into an arms race instead of investing in their people had nothing to do with that.
I argued in an Econ class that communism was the most perfect system. It's like Star Trek, but the human factor kills it and can really only thrive on a small scale. We need something more akin to European socialism.
That's like saying "I argued in Church that the devil is tempting, but ultimately sin is bad"
Humanity existed in communal arrangements for much longer than our species has engaged in profit-seeking individualism. It's socialization, not human nature, that's at issue.
While I should have put in more in quotes, a lot of European countries have strong social services that many Americans would consider "socialism" and that is what I meant. Comparatively, they kinda do.
No, we don't. Ireland was throttled to near-death by the EU to bail out its banking system and prop up capitalism after 2008.
The result is a healthcare system where people are dying in corridors; a housing crisis parallel to the vacancy of 160k housing units; and fascism garnering a toehold.
What you’re describing as socialism is just the absence of total barbarism. Capitalism isn’t fit for purpose and needs to be retired by whatever means work.
I'd also argue that we're not exactly absent of total barbarism, tbh.
Our governments have neglected generations of working people, refugees, the disabled, etc, to ramrod a now-failed market ideology into being - rather than slightly inconvenience the US, or take responsibility for their people.
Hahahaha! We already have it.
Not the economic part, but the oligarchic and 'dear leader" part. Did it ever occur to Republican voters why so many rich Chinese billionaires exist? Coming from a COMMUNIST country, run by the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY? It never was the communism. It's the Republicans.
instead of being tied to words and all of their different interpretations, we can forge a new way, a better way. what good are these that serve only their own egos and pockets -- why would we ever call them leaders ????
If you want a community oriented society that endevors to eliminate class it is still going to be communism. The particulars of how the economy is run and how we achieve it can be up for debate but you’re still trying to achieve communism
I want socialism guided by communist ideals endeavoring to achieve an equal classless society with democratized land and means of production. Why do we need capitalist? They will always seek to deregulate for profit
While I need more information, I have seen on Xiaohongshu that Communisim seems to be working quite well in China. Since joining that app, I've realized that everything I had been told about modern-day China was a lie. They actually have good lives, and the government actually works for the people.
I suggest reading (or listening to audiobooks) Marx, Engles, Lenin, Stalin, Du Bois, Fanon, Nkrumah, Guevara, Castro… anyone the mainstream likes to demonize who isn’t “white”.
.. Listening to the abridged version first to see if it catches your interest. It really helps to explain how fascism and communism fight each other and it will help you decide which one is the greater threat to you personally.
Oh yeah I can’t imagine how well they are treating the people of Tibet, HongKong and the Uyghurs, not even talking about the threads to Korea, Japan, Taiwan, India, Indonesia and the Philippines and the countless Opposition parties (0 in case you didn’t know) that contribute to freedom and democracy
This is the discussion we need to have. As I mentioned, I need more information. I certainly don't know much about China or its government. I see that their citizens have it far better than Americans. Outside of that, I am uneducated.
I just wanted to point out that the CCP does not work for the people and btw China isn’t really communist more like neo communist or a simple one party dictatorship
You just wanted to make up lies about a fictitious genocide in the Tarim Basin do defend from America’s over year long bipartisan and enthusiastic support for genocide in the Levant.
In the spirit of not being wreckers we gotta acknowledge a lot of normal ass Chinese people don't agree with this, and that you need to make a specific criticism
one huge thing to keep in mind is that 'communism' isnt anywhere near a singular idea or solution - i would say the most important thing as you read is to focus on the criticisms of our current world and how deeply true those criticisms are. determination of treatment can only come after diagnosis
When they call xi a dictator i think they really mean citizens didn't vote for him directly. But we don't even have that either lol. There's the whole electoral college
Secondly, Putin and his clique are all old KGB, raised during peak Soviet Communism. Every Russian born basically before 1991 lived under communist dictatorship propaganda. Values primed in the population including militarism and world domination don't disappear overnight just because Soviet ended.
Okay, but that doesn't change that Russia today is a capitalist society. Putin isn't turning it into a soviet society, just an oligarchy much like the US.
Fascist, not capitalist. And you have it backwards, it is US turning into Russia. Now don't get me wrong, I am a socialist by US standards, but outright communism is a very, very bad model. It is just a differrent form of rule by corrupt elites.
Fascism is just the end point of capitalism when left to fester. Regardless, the societies involved in that particular conflict are not soviet in nature. No communists are involved.
I could write an essay on it, but firstly, the "Russian speaking minorities Putin supposedly wants to protect are a result of Stalins genocidal policies of replacing people, first murder millions in Holodomor and then import throngs of Russians, among other things.
Our education system and media have collaborated with capital for 100 years to ensure that almost none of the actual ideas behind the ideology ever make it to the people.
Anecdotally they actually prosecute billionaire CEOs guilty of corruption/fraud, not sure about politicians though. For living standards, I feel we've all had our eyes opened in the past year with RedNote and Twitch streamers like Kai Cenat. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/guo-wengui-found-guilty/index.html
Let's be honest, communists have been some of the worst skimmers-off-the-top and grifters ever. Communism works for public utilities...but...
It's not the economic model that's the problem, it's the humans!
There's opportunity for grift built in to every system, isn't there? Ikd: China, Cuba, USSR? People want to make money on the dl, don't they? I'm not saying that it doesn't happen with capitalism and socialism or even democratic socialism, but it doesn't NOT happen in communist systems.
B-b-but muh Venezuela!!! Stalin!!!!!! iPhones wouldn’t exist!!! Who will build the roads?!?!?!! Did you even read Animal Farm??? communism is when no iPhone!!! haha checkmate commie
haha stupid communists!!!! communism was implemented on 634 different countries and left over 100.000 gorillion deaths!!!!!!!!! It invented famine war genocide and poverty pests war famine and poverty war genocide hunger and starvation war bad weather WiFi outages gulags slavery famines and war!!!!!
I get what you're saying, but the USSR was not even close to a dictatorship of the proletariat. Centralizing power in the party instead of in the hands of the worker just created a new class of elites. It's about as far from the spirit of socialism as you could be
And the struggle of ideas between Lenin and Trotsky followed by the power struggles of Trotsky and Stalin put paid to any hopes of further progress to Marxist communism.
Of course you are right to point out that USSR never reached the Marxist stage. Rather it became just a dictatorship.
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I am sure it's not needed but please know the world & never be afraid of communism, there are communists parties in every country of Europe https://youtu.be/kufVQX7rUGU
Socialism! And a One World Government ran by the People for the People! Every Human United in a Community of Peace and Love! End wars hunger and oppression! HAPPY FRIDAYEVE EVENING A!
Why move to an eroded state capitalist country when you could just organize to improve the conditions of your own country? If anything, that’s betrayal of your community and your people. My country’s proletariat needs to free ourselves and it’s not in our interest to run off to another.
In the end, location is irrelevant. Whether my body is here or there, the fight to end imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, and their ideological consequences is ongoing.
IOW you’re either full of 💩 or want to force authoritarianism/totalitarianism & in a sense imperialism because you want to force your beliefs on others.
Material commodities will be required to build socialism. Material value can, will, must persist. We are material, and value is part of material human experience, of production.
As opposed to the lack of purges, killing fields and famine under capitalism? You're describing authoritarianism and attributing it to an organization form of the economy.
"There is a solution in plain sight that just has never been tried anywhere in the world because of the CIA. No, that wasn't it either, that was fake communism!"
Liberal capitalism is the first form of capitalism that figured out how to mostly externalize the purges, killing and famine to the global south. That doesn't make these authoritarian features any less gross. You just don't feel them in the imperial core of europe/usa
Most people here are literally advocating for authoritarianism because they understand there is no chance the US voter will vote into power actual socialism.
Actually many of them would vote for socialist policies. Gallup shows numbers between 60% - 70% of US voters want government provided healthcare. Liberal capitalism is keeping it from happening.
No. A unrepresentative political structure has prevented it. Most liberal countries have uni healthcare and so would the US if our system wasn't uniquely bad.
OK? I'm talking about this thread. Many comments in here are calling for non democratic communism with seemingly little to no pushback from so called democratic socialists.
Have an open minded look at the Zapatistas and Ravajo (Syria). Thriving for 40 years and 1 decade respectively — though constantly at war and conflict! You can also look at revolutionary Catalonia or Mankhoviat Ukraine, though those were crushed by the combined efforts of the Soviets and fascists.
There are always ways to build mutual aid and solidarity in your community, without the need to seize the state or start a dictatorship over the proletariat. And we can be the next succeeding anarchist experiment, so long as we organize.
the US is currently a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. not literally with a dictator, but everything in American politics revolves around the interests of the business owner. we want that for the working class.
ah
an economy not based on demand but quotas
At least as practiced in Russia
Stalin wanted to prove how he was moving the country into the industrial age
There were quotas that needed to be filled but no one needed
quality suffered
Like trump
symbolic but exactly the opposite
like Liberation Day
Well, capitalism had its chance. And they fucked everything. Maybe our elected officials will care more about healthcare and wages when theirs are the same as ours.
Every nation which has called itself “communist” is a totalitarian dictatorship.
As Trump’s Depression wreaks destruction on our population, maybe more of our proletariat might realize they were NEVER capitalists, merely cheerleaders for corrupt sociopaths.
Sadly. There were some communists that fought against that, like some people's soviets unsuccessfully fought the Bolsheviks after they trashed Russia's first elected assembly. There were also some anarcho-syndacalist communes in Eastern Europe for a short time after the Russian Empire collapsed.
Social Democratic governments are capitalist but they use progressive taxation systems to provide public services like healthcare, welfare, education, etc. Like Norway and most of Europe, and Canada to some degree.
Yup, until they are rolled back by capitalists when they take back control of the state, as we see happening in Sweden, for example, and also how neoliberalism destroyed the welfare state in the US, UK, and Canada. So as long as capital is allowed to exist, it will fight against the welfare state.
Canada is currently being destroyed by neoliberalism, particularly our healthcare system which is being privatized piece by piece. Also, our economy has been cannibalized by the housing industry largely because we let the private market take the role that social housing previously did.
This is all to say, capitalism has run it's course and we must put an end to the ability of individuals to amass so much wealth that they can control entire communities or countries.
Needed and deserved! Everyone deserves a roof over their head, access to a decent life, food and a good education. Rich people are a parasite on humanity.
yes comrade we need Communism back also have you heard about this thing called vodka?
my other comrades were screaming "rush b" when they are drinking it, i guess it meant "rush berlin"
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Socialism or democratic socialism would be a much more manageable transition to make.
I'm saying this as someone who at one point loved the concept of Communism, but realized that humans can't implement it properly... yet. We're still too irrational
Ffs...
You can just as readily say Socialism is the next traditional stage towards Capitalism.
What do you think socialism is?
To think that a "stateless, classless" society will just hum along peacefully is a fantasy.
Lmao, even.
It's entirely possible that I'm very familiar, and just disagree with Lenin's take on communism.
But no, it's gotta be that I'm completely ignorant.
if you'd like to contest this: I don't care. I don't waste time on trump smoochers.
When has capitalism ever not been dependent on the ruthless exploitation of the working class?
We totally need communism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_social_democracy
legit 12yo historical & political knowledge, pathetic
In that case I have several definitions of "insane" for you.
yeah, what we have is good. Insanely good. Gee I'm beyond myself about how good it is to be a subject for consummerism and exploitation either I want it or not.
Putin is a result of capitalism being directly enforced by destroying communism.
Every attempt has been blocked aggressively by capital
Trump is not happening with liberal humanist values supporting him. He's thriving on an alliance between theocracy, corporate oligarchy, and a new brand of fascism.
Like how does your brain not like, forget how to breathe or to eat or something
But in all my 26 years, I only saw my family going to food lines during the pandemic.
The rest I never had our privately owned food be considered theft and taken away with us to prison.
I was sent to pick almonds, tomatoes, and cabbage in Salinas California as a kid because my folks needed extra help to put food on the table.
https://bsky.app/profile/kypalmer.bsky.social/post/3llwu35qluk27
In all my 26 years of life, my mum always had the freedom to put a Jesus portrait on the kitchen wall without being forced to put a politician above it.
Wealth breeds fascism
Capitalism gives human nature an incentive to continue improving technology.
Communism man: *vigilante kicks Elon in the nards*
Me: oh damnn maybe! 🤔
The prophecy says so.
We need democratic socialism. Aka Denmark.
Nicht für Ruhm. Für Heimat. Für Freiheit.
Kein Kontext. Kein „aber“.
NEIN.
PUNKT.
Wenn du das nicht verstehst, verstehst du auch nicht, was Widerstand bedeutet.
START Regular Fascism
'in the what way'
Th other was a communist, but had to flee the GDR (DDR). He converted to social-democracy in West-Germany.
Nobody needs communism.
2. How old are your parents if your bio says you are in your 30s?
You may need to look up who was on whose side during that conflict.
I guess the kink your bio refers to is having your arse handed to you on a silver platter
(Honestly can't work out if they're doing a bit or not)
You’re like a parody of a liberal.
I rest my case
"Socialism," he retorted, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism.
An excerpt from a interview Hitler gave the American Monthly in 1923
Try researching a little, it would do you good
I rest my case
Communism is internationalist, and so opposed to nationalism.
If your grandfather was fighting the Soviets in WW2 then your grandfather was a Nazi scum and probly rots in hell right now.
Gotta love North Koreas democracy.
You gotta write him up or send him to Siberia or whatever the heck you do, cause they reeeeeally suck at this.
And you think your grandfather fought Soviets??
And you support concentration camps?
Please be a troll or a bot.
And also ......
Methinks @stoporangefascism.bsky.social is very ignorant.
Even trolls (imho) know better than to post nonsense drivel.
Do you also think North Korea is Democratic? They put it in the name after all
https://bsky.app/profile/crimson-rose-field.bsky.social/post/3llwuw7qws22y
very very cool lmao
https://jacobin.com/2022/08/nazi-germany-national-socialism-hypercaptialism-social-darwinism-liberalism
Now to check out our next exhibit: The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, well known to be an icon of democracy.
The party has democratic in its name so...
You could have used Google, if you slept through high-school
Nazi party used terms, and visual symbols that socialists adopted to create confusion.
It's "national socialism" and the fact that it allied with Weimar's conservative and nationalist parties against liberal, socialist, and communist parties should make it obvious who they were, and weren't.
The English language is wasted on you.
Actual socialists were the first to be thrown into concentration camps. To the Nazis "Bolshevism" was a jewish ideology
not joking, there’s genuinely a better case for the truthfulness of that name than of the Nazi party’s name. that’s how illogical we’re talking.
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
but also I think this person is doing a bit, there's no way someone is this much of a stereotypical over the top shitlib
https://youtu.be/Cll91vfc_3Q?si=CmJ8FtqAWn4H7b1P
C'mon do tell.
but go off
You shoulda learned hid Tory before you spoke. Now you iust look like a Nazi sympathizer.
Let me guess, you’re a shitlib?
Right?
Why do all you libs defend fascism? Hm?
https://origin-rh.web.fordham.edu/Halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp
I should learn to proofread before I send. lol.
Which side was the Soviet Union on, again?
Not far off from how the U.S. officially wasn't joining the allies.
Unofficially they were absolutely giving Japan a hard time getting oil. But you know what happened next.
In practice, they split up Poland, and teamed up to attack Poland from both sides, meeting in the middle.
It didn't go beyond "non-aggression" because it didn't require cooperation.
https://youtu.be/8FRmflmnTkc?si=rSP9IjYey-dvIgBA
@stoporangefascism.bsky.social is unhinged.
She needs help, and she needs it immediately.
you're thinking of the Soviet Union that hasn't existed since 1991
the Soviets had nukes in Ukraine, when the USSR was illegally dissolved, they took them back
glad to help
https://bsky.app/profile/gaykwon.bsky.social/post/3llxggcp3ks2p
He's being a brave boy for the bourgeoisie
https://youtu.be/D-00DfluoNU?si=BSm0g7hOIMprz19S
“According to the critics, rule by communist parties has often led to totalitarianism, political repression, restrictions of human rights, poor economic performance, and cultural and artistic censorship.” from Wikipedia
After the Bolshevik revolution the USSR went through a lot of history, don't skip over that.
Humanity existed in communal arrangements for much longer than our species has engaged in profit-seeking individualism. It's socialization, not human nature, that's at issue.
The result is a healthcare system where people are dying in corridors; a housing crisis parallel to the vacancy of 160k housing units; and fascism garnering a toehold.
Our governments have neglected generations of working people, refugees, the disabled, etc, to ramrod a now-failed market ideology into being - rather than slightly inconvenience the US, or take responsibility for their people.
Not the economic part, but the oligarchic and 'dear leader" part. Did it ever occur to Republican voters why so many rich Chinese billionaires exist? Coming from a COMMUNIST country, run by the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY? It never was the communism. It's the Republicans.
Do I have to start on things like racism, civil rights or espionage on their own people (WeChat and cctv), freedom of speech?
Eat shit and hair.
It's not the economic model that's the problem, it's the humans!
The last thing we need is to replace one failed ideology with another failed ideology 😆
Continue your education.
BUT
In reality no country has ever been fully communist, as Marx and Engels described in their Communist manifesto.
Most 'communist' countries, Russia (USSR), China, never got past the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' phase.
It's why they are totalitarian still.
And the struggle of ideas between Lenin and Trotsky followed by the power struggles of Trotsky and Stalin put paid to any hopes of further progress to Marxist communism.
Of course you are right to point out that USSR never reached the Marxist stage. Rather it became just a dictatorship.
this rap is for the leftist-commie "International Magazine" @TheIntlMagz at @X
I am sure it's not needed but please know the world & never be afraid of communism, there are communists parties in every country of Europe
https://youtu.be/kufVQX7rUGU
of course you can't use bsky there so good luck texting back and don't complain about the communist party or you'll become one of the organ donors ok.
Nah, no more gulags and genocides - we had it enough.
Grow up.
an economy not based on demand but quotas
At least as practiced in Russia
Stalin wanted to prove how he was moving the country into the industrial age
There were quotas that needed to be filled but no one needed
quality suffered
Like trump
symbolic but exactly the opposite
like Liberation Day
As Trump’s Depression wreaks destruction on our population, maybe more of our proletariat might realize they were NEVER capitalists, merely cheerleaders for corrupt sociopaths.
Capitalism has propped up totalitarian dictatorships to oppose socialist and communist democratic movements, see Chile as a great example
Of course the Regime is filled with capitalists - fascism is just capitalism plus nationalism and violence.
The people I said were not capitalists were the workers who own no capital, yet still support the party of “rich people shouldn’t pay taxes”.
But luckily the USA is well on the path to destruction so that won’t be an issue soon
Freedom F**king Day Day
https://youtu.be/ffjX6HTGH0g
It's a book. The audio book is on youtube. And Spotify
Want the link? I highly recommend it right now
The analysis of fascism is grade a
Even if you disagree with thy solution
Asshole.
my other comrades were screaming "rush b" when they are drinking it, i guess it meant "rush berlin"
i ran out of csgo jokes