Personally I think nothing exemplifies the plateauing of the console market more than Nintendo coming out with a "Console 2" 8 years after their previous major hardware release. I get its a handheld, but stuff like this makes me worried gaming is running out of ideas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ&ab_channel=NintendoofAmerica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ&ab_channel=NintendoofAmerica
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I love the Switch but not hyped for this at all
iPad/iPhone/Macbook/ Galaxy, etc
People need to know without thinking twice what it is they are getting.
Nintendo isn’t marketing their console as a toy anymore.
Stagnation beside more graphics is far more disappointing than another Switch.
How you play will eventually become the most important trend to chase imo. And Nintendo always loves to be that kind of weird.
Also they've always iterated for a while until they tried something crazy. I'm not worried yet
The next one can always be experimental again.
I don't know, I still get why they're doing it especially backwards compatibility is so important for people right now it feels like the right move no matter how I turn it
I still regularly pull out my 3DS and Vita and hell, can we please have literally anything with a bit of personality
I speak from personal experience when I say not all innovation is good.
"shrinking" with "not growing as fast"
"running out of ideas" with "I dont have ideas"
and "losing the young audience" with "the most family friendly gaming hardware anywhere."
There are a lot of PC-brained comments here that are not reflective of the majority of people
That 2 is literally the biggest part of the logo.
don’t take a second big swing.
that said…
and the machines to run them are already at 4k, 60fps…so, like, what’s left?
Constantly reinventing everything is part of why games are such an insane industry. Destroying all institutional knowledge every four years was an insane way to build a new form of media.
The Switch (1) has a chance of becoming the best-selling console of all time, surpassing another "Console 2", people love it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
look at stuff like Labo and Ring Fit. if those joycons work as mice, then who knows what else may come
the industry is fucked, the direction is bad, but it's because of capitalism, not lack of innovation.
and while i also agree with the sentiment, i still feel it comes down to capitalist malaise more than anything else.
But that same attractiveness is why they could maintain a moat and force people to keep going through their own platform.
Nintendo looks to have done just that.
Radical change would have probably resulted in something more like the Virtual Boy.
That said, I think they could still try some new stuff, but maybe they do that by releasing new addons that utilize the magnetic docks.
Imagine being able to put just a joycon in your pocket, and then play little gameboy type games with it.
But would need a screen addon. (Possible with that connector though...)
Each company just has a proprietary chip that plugs into any PC like device to unlock their own library.
Fully expecting them to come up with some wacky hardware to plug into that second USB port halfway through its lifecycle.
Audio, video, story. How we move in the game.
Mouthwashing was great narrative, but what the game does with its controls, and telling the player to interact with the medium was what most recently made me find hope.
Rant over, sorry to take up your time.
Am I confusing your statement on increase of hardware, centered in fidelity and performance. Or do you mean, true innovation in how we Use the hardware? Like, motion controls, AR, VR?
*Looks in SNES, GBC, GBA, GC*
They'll be fine.
Danny I like you but, why Nintendo in particular should bear the cross of innovation when we've seen dreadful stuff in the form of PS5 Pro recently?
Sometimes all you need is a good Cube that plays Games
There are technologies that would advance video games forward, but instead of investing in the future they're only doubling down on currently existing IPs.
I don't like where this wind is blowing us.
Here’s to a Resident Evil 2 remaster of the remaster in 2030 that runs at a higher frame rate than the human brain is capable of visualising.
They're just not trying anymore.
The Switch has every Nintendo game, which is awesome. The Deck suffers by not having these games.
But three of my games of the year for 2024 (UFO 50, Caves of Qud, Hades II) are not on the Switch.
Nintendo’s games are awesome, but there’s enough awesome non-Nintendo games as well.
the BUSSINESS of video games is another discussion, but the BUSSINESS of most things should burn to the ground imo
Hardware isn't the answer to this. Software is. Games have to be creative, not consoles.
Touchscreens, motion controls, they're crammed into every PS5 and Xbox controller and bloat the cost; how many games have used them well? I can only think of ONE. A PS4 launch title.
The only one I can think of is Splatoon.
Not the big argument you think it is. Maybe that'll change, but most gamers prefer sticks to gyro even if its less precise. So its not that simple anyways.
Kinect? Wii? Huge annoying gimmicks that were sold on lies, people quickly hating them. Games that were forced to use them were made worse.
Lots to worry about in games/the state of things, could be more, not sure this is indicative
Personally I'm excited about mouse mode and think it singlehandedly makes this more interesting than the PS5 or Xbox.
Like, why on earth did they put the USB-C on top of the console? And what will they do with the mouse-joy-con-thingy?
Wait, what are we talking about?
If we look at this and another 8 years from Switch 2, maybe that is when VR/XR is more affordable and they move into that field.
DAMMIT
But there is something to be said for giving people what they want, and a ton of people do want more Switch.
https://www.theverge.com/2014/5/7/5689878/nintendo-earnings-fy-2013#
The Nintendo Switch 2 is really the Nintendo Switch Pro.
The Steam Deck is really the Nintendo Switch 2.
On the other hand, the Switch is the only console I've bought in over 10 years, and I'll immediately be buying the Switch 2.
So accessible to kids, families and casual gamers.
Like, I'm not following you train of thought here..?
See: success of Steam Deck etc
That's legit it. The PC Market is expanding due to the most popular games being able to reasonably run on low end pcs.
The only real novel thing in the last ten years is the steam deck and that’s just copying what consoles were already doing.
Nothing is motivating to get a Switch 2, aside from that's where the Nintendo games are gonna be.