The problem is, some of you Hwite (yes hwite) leftists are so horny for him it's embarrassing to witness. You make fun of him but you recognize that you both have the same brain disease. You're each a couple of dirty little freaks, rolling in the mud squealing and oinking at each other like pigs.
leftist in the US are their own center-right bubble compared to the rest of the world & the far left communists don't understand the development of communist ideologies in modern social democracies
so the US left bubble infighting better left alone because they can't see past their own ignorance
Saw the thread, don't see where your assertion that leftists in the US are center-right or whatever.
Again, must be my singular neuron (after 12 others got ate up by an RFK Jr prescribed brain worm, rip to those 12) that I missed that, but now I gotta ask... where?
if you feel like it, check the latest thread in my history of communist that blocked me after mentioning that communism created European social democracies
I don't know the guy, I just know if I mention social democracy to the US left you're either gonna call it communist or not communist enough (even though it was created by communists years ago)
so it's better to not bother and leave US left in their island, they're mostly center right anyway
This is not intended as a defense of Stancil, but actual leftists also criticise other leftists *constantly* in my experience. We're one of the most in-fighty political tendencies in the whole game
Architects tend to have more differences of opinion than arsonists.b it's easy to build support when all you need a skin color chart and a gun. Not so much when you're dealing with the intricacies of trying to improve society somewhat.
Certainly! The issues that the left disagrees on are important and complex and debating about how to build a better world and avoid the pitfalls of history is much better than groupthink or unchallenged consensus based on false premises.
I think that's because we realize that the manner in which we do things matters a lot to the final product. A lot of false consciousness is behind the appeal of Trump and we see how dangerous it can be to just go with "something different" and not care what that something is.
He's basically just admitting he doesn't understand the conversation at all. He's like a pseudoscientist selling quantum ion emitter crystals who thinks scientific discussion is just spewing technical words and not using those terms to refer to specific complex concepts.
Ironically, he's doing what he's accusing others of doing. He was getting a compliment with criticism as a chaser, and he still had to make it about how lefties are stupid for virtue signal points
I also wonder at a number of his followers who feel compelled to comment "but he's right"...I look at their profiles and posts and find they rarely line up with their replies. Hmmmmm, wonder why
wow that post from june is downright magnanimous compared to what he usually gets on this site and he still acts like a little bitch. unbelievable scenes. i think this guy’s remaining time as a lolcow is limited because he’s just no fun at all
The only people who seem to genuinely like him are staunch centrist libs who feel the need to be the most correct about everything at all times, as far as I can tell. Even they seem to be losing interest in him at this point because its impossible for someone to agree 100% with anyone else.
Has this guy even had a job??? And if he did it was for sure *emails* and not actual 3 part time min wage struggling to live kinda shit that many people exist in.
Tbf that's a pretty accurate description of Twitter (and bsky) leftists
Try to express any ideas that are actually radical and everyone jumps down your throat and tries to dunk on you for not blindly following the dogma of progressive liberalism
one can look at the resistance/bluecrew types for the same pack animal behavior - it's what ppl online do - will confuses that w/real world - i know liberals and while they can be pretty fucking annoying none are as demented as their online analogs - online & irl are two very different worlds
Modern agriculture is broken and we need to radically change the way we produce our food basically immediately before climate change does it for us (and starves millions to death in the process)
Well I mean yeah, all of the cutting down of rainforests to make way for more cow farms to make more burgers kinda makes that pretty abundantly clear that that is just true. Arguing over that statement feels weird, so I guess the argument would be how specifically you fix things?
Yeah I think in the end it boiled down to them clinging to the modernist belief that we can fix it with enough science/tech
Whereas my solutions were based on already proven approaches like polycropping and smallhold farming which were dismissed as 'returning to the past' (which is bad apparently)
Gotta shun & forget this loser. Everytime he is offered an olive branch he snaps it in half and lights it on fire. Then has the audacity to prance about like he's nobly above it all. It's become increasingly grotesque.
***and I really really want anyone reading this to understand that I'm saying this as a trans person in Texas- I have been called more and worse names and have had more threats of violence against me made from online "leftists" just for the most benign, fact-based statements, than I have by maga.
If you’re giving points to Fox News about your view of the left maybe that’s a you problem and not leftists. There is a whole sect of abusive liberals on here too. Does that make it a liberal problem or does that maybe make it an internet problem instead?
The fact that it’s so easy to just say shit
-online is an issue and I won’t pretend I’ve never been heated on here. But it’s reductive to say that it’s only leftists engaging in this behavior. Also, it is abusive to vote-shame, hope that helps
i love when a lib on here defends him like “he’s half-wrong occasionally but usually he’s right on and people should leave him alone” and then will jumps in the replies with a six-post response about why I AM NOT HALF-WRONG ACTUALLY
we are all libs to a certain degree. it’s just that leftism requires we put away our toys and do work because capitalists are actively destroying everything around us for profit. once we fix the problems we can all lib out in peace
Liberalism is capitalisms champion actually. It’s why Reagan and thatcher and all the English speaking worlds politicians since no matter the party solidly fall into the neoliberal camp, until Trump anyway. Part of the breakdown in discourse is a lack of understanding around this.
oh i fully understand. but we can't implement communism overnight without a violent revolution which is not coming. so we do need to implement some regulation approaches until we can convince people that the regulations also don't address the root issue, which is the labor exploitation itself.
I heard people talk shit about him then looked at a few posts and thought "based" but no. oh god no.
imagine Hakeem Jeffries got primaried, lost two more elections, then started Posting Through It as a politcal social media B lister (and B is generous).
“Children who know nothing” from the guy who spent yesterday waxing poetic that America isnt a genocider because the constitution says thats not allowed
maybe? doesn't matter though. his type, and what he's perfected, is nothing more than a wrench in the gears meant to keep you arguing about meaningless shit. ignore him
god that whole thread was just him reading whatever subtext he wanted into what you wrote regardless of how sincerely you approached him. that's just sad.
I don't know the context and you might be right, but as someone who you've attacked in a similar way for pointing out the impact that "protest votes" from "the left" had on Trump's victory - he's right
It was in YOUR threads where I got called every name under the sun for that. Worse than maga. So.
Whelp it looks like the threats of violence came from people in your threads on this site, too
I blocked them, but boy it was a trip being told that I'd get my fingers broken and teeth knocked out *because I think there are SOME good democrats in office right now*
Are these violent threats against you from leftists in the room with us right now? Did you make any reports or take any screenshots to show as evidence? Cause I can also just say people are threatening to break my hands but I blocked them so now you can see them.
"Birthday boy" is a kind of guy who starts shit and then whines when they receive pushback for that.
Occasionally trans men who say heinous shit about trans women and then whine when trans women get angry about it get called that because of the above definition.
I've only ever seen it as an insult for cis chasers, is it like a Twitter thing? My boyfriend is transmasc and I wouldn't want to say something that would offend him
Why not just communicate with your BF and ask them if this is something they find offensive? People online don't know what your BF will personally be offended by.
From my vantage point as an outsider, it feels more an insult rather than a slur. Slurs for me, come from years and years of making an insult + institutional power, and no one ever substantially proven that with the insult "birthd*y b*y".
I've seen it used towards Will Stancil and a few other Main Character types on here, but they were cis men. I didn't and don't use Twitter so I would be ignorant of any use there. I just want to make sure I'm not hurting anyone when I specifically make fun of whiny assholes
As far as I can tell, there's very small corner of the internet where birthday boy is used against trans men a lot, but by and large it's being used for anyone who starts a fight and then seeks sympathy when faced with consequences for starting that fight.
And as far as I've heard, the trans men being called birthday boy were acting like that, so the term was not related to them being trans or transmasc in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if there have been posters who made it about that, but it seems like a very tiny group of posters
I don’t think I’ve ever heard birthday boy used that way before. I e always said it like “you wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses would you? Also it’s my birthday! I’m just a birthday booooy!”
as a trans man, not really. it’s used sparingly by trans women to criticize trans men who center themselves over the overwhelming violence committed against trans women. it’s most commonly used to describe sensitive cis men and i certainly don’t take any offense to it being used
trans women still hold 0 systemic power over trans men, because women hold 0 systemic power over men. this is very basic feminism 101, an understanding that misogyny is an axis of oppression while "misandry" is not. therefore for trans women transphobia intersects with misogyny. c'mon now.
btw what is this fantasy that it takes special insight to criticize republicans? a fucking infant could tell you what’s wrong with republicans. counting that a skill only proves a lack of skills or knowledge.
He is capable of intelligent analysis bit literally only knows one approach to problem that being the liberal economic approach. He earnestly believes it not only to be the best lense only methodological approach worth anything. It easy to see why he basically crashed out of academia.
I feel like a broken record always pointing this out, but I will never forget the time he yelled at me for pointing out that the infamous disinformation and legal campaign done by the tobacco industry resulted in the deaths of a lot of people. The man's hatred of the left is pathological.
I'm sure he'd be a great UFC commentator, he can recognize battle tactics. Dude just has no grasp of social or material incentive structures and how we fit in them.
Broski debates like Ben Shapiro, sound smarter than your opponent no matter the truth.
of all his critics Junlper is not the largest account, and she is charitable towards will.
Junlper is one of the more famous well liked trans posters on the site. And judging by deleted skeets from stan, it makes sense Junlper gets his more unhinged quote skeets.
But he seems to get the most upset when people try to offer him kindness or try to bridge the gap. He seems to hate the idea that his 'enemies' might be OK people.
It's magnifying. If you're saying something nice, quote skeets are endorsements. If you're saying something critical, quote skeets are often highly inflammatory and lead to arguments
"people who know literally nothing of the world" coming from a guy who keeps arguing against the idea that the 13th amendment literally has "except as punishment for a crime" written down
I think I saw him actively deny it, but yeah he also does just say "NUH UH NO NUH UH STOP SAYING THAT" and try and claim he's an intellectual powerhouse
what he's describing is a combination of Group Think and Confirmation Bias, both of which are human nature. people are just not aware when they do it themselves.
I don’t know (or really want to know) the differences between all the left parties. Do you think people have rights? Cool. But I’m not out there lecturing people about history that I’ve admitted to not reading either. 🤷♀️
There may not be single more miserable person out there than Will Stancil. Just dawn to dusk impotent rage directed at people he ostensibly agrees with 90% of the time
I don’t think we can share that “I don’t engage with the literature“ quote enough. Who the hell is this guy to talk about what other people know about the world?
He’s got a deep instinct for staking out almost perfectly wrong new takes on things and then hectoring people 20 hours a day on those points
It’s weird he’s a zeteo contributer, he’s so counter to all of their others but not as some balancing voice or something. It’s like an administrative error
Like ... does he even have ANY casual or friendly interactions? People who he talks/shittalks about sports? Cooking? Pets? Outdoor activites? Movies or television or books he enjoys? Other Politics Understanders he interacts with as if he just enjoys talking to them?
Lol, I did not notice a single moment where either of them approached like "so what do you enjoy outside of being online?" It read like a job interview. As you said, perfect.
This is a laughable assertion. Of course I have friends. They're all just out of frame, scoffing aloofly too. What do you think, I sit around posting all day with one hand in my pants? That I would ever eat a hot dog alone? That my mom had to ask me to stop coming to her BINGO... 1/12
i cant escape him no matter what. people will just post screenshots because they think dunking on him will do something when he clearly enjoys being made fun of.
he wants in at the DNC and i suspect he thinks this stuff might help him in some way (i don't think it will - establishment dems might respect his angering lefties but he looks so weird in these exchanges that i can't help but think it will push them away as well).
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the quicker people realize his head is full of rocks and he should be ignored the better
so the US left bubble infighting better left alone because they can't see past their own ignorance
Again, must be my singular neuron (after 12 others got ate up by an RFK Jr prescribed brain worm, rip to those 12) that I missed that, but now I gotta ask... where?
so it's better to not bother and leave US left in their island, they're mostly center right anyway
That said, we do fight a *lot* about it
Please use decent alt text.
Whoever is actually bothered by him should just block.
Has this guy even had a job??? And if he did it was for sure *emails* and not actual 3 part time min wage struggling to live kinda shit that many people exist in.
Try to express any ideas that are actually radical and everyone jumps down your throat and tries to dunk on you for not blindly following the dogma of progressive liberalism
But like stopped clocks or whatever
You attack people of being dogmatic when you do not even understand the language used; how could you ever decide if it is dogmatic if you don't read?
Whereas my solutions were based on already proven approaches like polycropping and smallhold farming which were dismissed as 'returning to the past' (which is bad apparently)
Like the central question of socialism is how we produce stuff
He's not wrong, unfortunately. At least on that point.
It's enough to make reasonable people say "oh wow fox news was right about these people".
But hey let's just keep excoriating anyone who points that problem out.
I'm sure it will work out fine.
This is a fact based on the numbers that we currently have, and it's something we MUST talk about.
But pointing that out led to a dog pile of maga-level nastiness. Worse, tbh.
The fact that it’s so easy to just say shit
I heard people talk shit about him then looked at a few posts and thought "based" but no. oh god no.
imagine Hakeem Jeffries got primaried, lost two more elections, then started Posting Through It as a politcal social media B lister (and B is generous).
that's the Stancil vibe
It was in YOUR threads where I got called every name under the sun for that. Worse than maga. So.
And it just really sucks and does absolutely nothing good for progressive causes.
I blocked them, but boy it was a trip being told that I'd get my fingers broken and teeth knocked out *because I think there are SOME good democrats in office right now*
Felt like right wing bots, tbh 🤷♂️
I didn't take screenshots. Honestly I was shocked and kinda scared and just wanted to block them as soon as I could.
Occasionally trans men who say heinous shit about trans women and then whine when trans women get angry about it get called that because of the above definition.
From my vantage point as an outsider, it feels more an insult rather than a slur. Slurs for me, come from years and years of making an insult + institutional power, and no one ever substantially proven that with the insult "birthd*y b*y".
*ao
At least, "noticeable" Twitter thing. I've yet to know the origin of it, but no, I've never seen it being used toward cisgender men.
check out this freakin guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTusGC1eSEA
Will Stancil is gonna turn me fucking communist FULL STOP
I haven't hated capitalism this much since I read The Big Short
He's just the absolute fucking poster child for everything that's wrong
(as a libertarian, anarcho communism might end up being your favorite flavor 😉)
Broski debates like Ben Shapiro, sound smarter than your opponent no matter the truth.
Junlper is one of the more famous well liked trans posters on the site. And judging by deleted skeets from stan, it makes sense Junlper gets his more unhinged quote skeets.
Like why is he still acting this way still; does he never want to have another chance at public office?
But he seems to get the most upset when people try to offer him kindness or try to bridge the gap. He seems to hate the idea that his 'enemies' might be OK people.
"appeal" = "the groups the fact makes me think of"
https://bsky.app/profile/thelouvreof.bsky.social/post/3lnfukcyxrs22
Will Stancil: why don’t I have any friends
Phill Pencil?
Tim Toncil?
Shill Cancelled?
He’s also just clearly going to undergo a right wing shift. His whole founding principles rant could have been written by a Republican.
It’s weird he’s a zeteo contributer, he’s so counter to all of their others but not as some balancing voice or something. It’s like an administrative error
At all?
This is a laughable assertion. Of course I have friends. They're all just out of frame, scoffing aloofly too. What do you think, I sit around posting all day with one hand in my pants? That I would ever eat a hot dog alone? That my mom had to ask me to stop coming to her BINGO... 1/12