Hmm…not buying that. But I’m good with Canada and Mexico calling Trump’s bluff and saying “Donald, you’re a total clown and we’re just gonna wait you out. G’luck”
It no longer matters. They served their purpose. There doesn't need to be another election ever again if king trump doesn't want it. The law can't touch him now
And somehow the magats will still choose to blindly follow his cult. As if they understand any of this. I wonder how President Harris is doing today. You know, the legitimate President of America.
I work at a union auto factory. Lots of people here voted for Trump (smh). I wonder how they'll feel if we shut down. Ehh... what am I saying? they'll blame the Dems.
As painful as it will be, Canada should wait this out. The Canadian public will perceive this as an independence struggle. The American public will struggle to explain why this is even happening
As an American that lives in states supplied this way, please don’t. I’ve got kids and shutting down the power that long will do a lot of damage you are not thinking of.
And tariffs will do a lot of damage to Canada. I am sorry for Americans. But more sorry for Canadians right now. We have far less power in this "relationship. "
I can say the exact same thing about our water being polluted from the dissolution of the EPA on the American side and the fact that the only reason he wants to bully Canada into being a state bc he wants our clean drinking water. I’m thinking of my kids health too.
His supporters will gobble up any excuse he gives them for higher prices. He’ll lie and blame any of his many scapegoats and boogey men just like he always does. He doesn’t care about the US economy at the end of the day, he doesn’t care about hurting his constituents. He is wholly unfit to serve.
Good, as an American, I hope you guys do! I'm sick of people who don't understand our economy acting like they do. I'm sick of people acting like we can live in a damn vacuum and make and do everything ourselves. That's now how this shit works anymore and it hasn't for a long time. Let them FAFO.
I will go so far as to say Fuck the USA! Hurting the people that voted for him may be the only way to get them to change their minds about Trump. Unfortunately, we all will hurt because of it, but what other options do we have?
Our own provincial parliament has just been dissolved (Ontario) no retaliatory measures can be taken against the tariffs until the election has been resolved. Feb 27th at the earliest. Seems kind of suspicious timing, all that talk and now nothing can be done
Yeah, I don’t know. I’m boycotting American products even if Ford doesn’t pull them from the shelves for another month. They can still act federally if everyone agrees to reconvene in an emergency session, I believe.
Yeah unfortunately I work for a cross-border company so as much as I would like to buy Canadian I have to work for American. I'm scared to see what Monday morning will bring
There is a reason why our national animals are the beaver and the goose. We are hard working environmental stewards, and should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE FUCKED WITH.
How can we wait it out? Living in a city of 300k where 90% of jobs are directly tied to the auto industry, mine included. Well the government bail us all out when we all lose our jobs? Any action at this point will hurt millions of jobs, whether it's doing nothing or implementing tariffs
I actually think that’s what’s he’s intentionally doing.
If I were these countries- I’d just let it happen- don’t import to the US
he does it to bluff and pressure them into a DEAL
it won’t take long for him to back off when his base starts to feel the pain
The problem is when other countries have established trade with each other, it will take a long time for a new, not-insane, president and Congress to recoup that loss. And if we cease being the world reserve currency (trades are done in stable U.S. dollars), kiss our superpower status good-bye.
Agreed
But once they understand that fact (if they ever do…)
our cowardly congress can be intimidated to turn on trump if they fear losing their power - Congress still has power if they choose to use it
Yes. The purpose is to install Vance. He's been picked with care as his wife's family are notorious Hindutvas belonging to ethnic groups, which supported colonialism & then fascism in South Asia. They hope Indian Hindutvas will fight Communist China because Hindutvas supported the Axis in WW2.
I keep wondering what Vance is planning behind the scenes. I feel like it’s his plan to watch DT destroy the country, then he’ll ride in on his white horse and appear to be the “hero” that saves us.
Yes but he’s also one of the main drivers of project 2025 and yt supremacy. All of this nonsense going on was meant for trump to take credit and get impeached and removed. Then JD was always meant to take the reigns
We can hope it turns into an unsuccessful feeding frenzy for power after he’s gone. None of his would-be successors has the charismatic cult of personality to hold all of the sheep. But the Project 2025 drivers will find someone to back to keep the coup going.
“Don’t import to the US” is great in theory but it takes time and money to replace what amounts to your entire customer base and establish new supply chains to other countries with whom you don’t share a reasonably accessible land border. People are going to suffer under these tariffs.
Yet, I see people already starting to suffer from his actions …
we are going to suffer but have to choose which kind of pain has a long term positive outcome - caving to a mad man is a short term solution and just validates an promotes more of that behavior
Hoover’s view of tariffs was like trump’s. He enacted the Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930, raising duties on both agricultural & industrial imports to the US, and led European nations & Japan to erect or heighten existing protectionist trade walls against US products, a suicidal international trade war.
Our dear leader is infallible. If every scientist on earth says don't look directly at the sun but he still does, well, them scientists must not know nothing. Anyways, does anyone know how long it takes these white spots to clear from my vision?
Been about four years for me; I think because I called out/clashed too much with pro-Jan 6thers (in real time and a few days afterwards). Account was perma-suspended before Biden's inauguration...
Not just that, but how many people have the auto industry and it's feeders in their 401k's. A lot of middle, lower middle and working klass people are going to loose a shit load of lettuce if the auto industry goes under
The uncertainty and instability caused by the tariffs could also deter investment and innovation in the industry, affecting competitiveness and profitability.
Trump believes bankrupting companies is a good thing.only have to look at how many times Trump filed for bankruptcy.Trump is going to bankrupt America.
I disagree. This would likely be a long-term issue for our auto industry. The increased costs from the tariffs would disrupt the supply chain, leading to higher prices for vehicles and parts. This could result in reduced demand, production slowdowns, and potential job losses over time.
Yeh that's what I meant by short term though. My thought is if trump keeps shooting himself in the foot (voir collapsing the automotive industry) then he'll become super unpopular and ppl won't vote for the reps next time round. I agree with everything you said tho!
I see what you're saying now. Yes, the blowback could be costly and Trump might be forced to rescind the tariffs. His supporters are going to get schooled in what tariffs really are.
Last time Trump was in charge he repealed an incentive scheme that directly caused a car plant to close. He told people to blame the union in that plant and called out the union rep by name. Who did the MAGA crowd blame? You guessed it.
everything they say is a lie, projection, or a dogwhistle.
it wasn't about the price of eggs - greedy psychopaths use 'the economy' (AKA wealth) to measure the success of every person in the country. the idiotic bigots go along with it whether or not they understand this cus they're also bigots.
The biggest challenge for the MAGA voters is going to be for the first few days as prices skyrocket and the cognitive dissonance is SCREAMING at them that this isn't okay... but eventually the new programming will kick in.
I dunno. They've already proved they're dumb as dirt and vile as Trump. They may not realize their lives have gone to shit, because they are too busy celebrating others' suffering.
Correction: MAGA fucked around because FOX triggered their racist hatred and economic fears with a firehose of nonstop lies about Democrats "replacing" them with immigrants, and they pretended it was about the price of eggs because the KNOW they're acting on racist hatred.
Well...he actually doing exactly that, given what he's ordering to be done with equity in hiring and promotion, workplace labour protections, reproductive health, bodily autonomy, federal funding for special education and other school programs, and career possibilities for women in the military...
His infamous quote, "I could shoot a person on Fifth Avenue..." has proven to be the most truthful, self-aware, and prophetic statement he's ever uttered.
They will blame Biden bc that's what faux nooz will tell them. They already blame the airline crashes on Biden. They are completely brainwashed and indoctrinated.
When, the price of everything dramatically goes up right after he announces tariffs, they will find it hard to deny reality. People tend to have a different perspective when it impacts the bottom line. Their investment portfolios will start suffering, too.
I would hope. Unfortunately, they are so fucking dumb and suggestible, I could definitely see them blaming democrats (just like Trump tried to do with the plane crash)
It's not about MAGA. It's about the Biden voters in 2020 who shifted to Trump in 2024. It's about the millions who couldn't be bothered to get off their asses and vote. People need to understand that elections have consequences.
The supplier base is even more precarious these days. Fully expect and have prepared myself to be laid off. Fingers crossed that I only get furloughed.
If you're in Congressional District 9, I'd love your vote in the Midterms! As an independent, I'll bring common sense back. My "wheels on the road" strategy will win in 2026! 🇺🇸
That won't stop them.
Remember who there leader is. He just takes what he wants and never pays for anything. How many poor cities did he bail on paying all his election crap. He stiffs who he can.
Everyone let's him get away with it and always have. That's the way all magas are.
Embarrassing.
I moved a few more years worth of spending from stocks to cash today.
I don't think this will be a playable crash, like covid causing negative oil prices, I think it will take a while to play out and I'm just looking to avoid selling low as my dividend income falls.
Why is Trump imposing tariffs on Canada and Mexico? What is all this talk about Greenland and Panama? Understand why Trump's middle-east envoy went to Saudi Arabia first and not Israel and you will start to see. I posted this trail of evidence a few days ago if you are interested.
It will be interesting to find whether Trump's tariffs on China contain an exclusion for Elon Musk's Tesla corporation. His parts are made in Shanghai, China. He is practically wed to Trump, has offices in the White House and across our governmental agencies.
A very astute observation; and correct even if they try to hide it. What would be perfect is if there is documented embezzlement of Treasury funds to help Elon avoid the tariffs. We need a forensic accountant!
That’s true class war rich vs poor! The only color the rich are concerned about is green. They’ll see the whole world, collapsing around them and want more because of greed. Also it’s at the expense and suffering of the poor. But in the end the battle and war will be won by the poor. A poem by Poet.
I’m afraid you may be right. They’ve been consuming nonstop propaganda for years now, and have been prepped to deflect blame for practically anything to the Libs.
Yep and he’s about to piss the UAW off even more than they already were. Good luck with that. Even some red states are tied to automotive manufacturing.
Good. It has to happen. Make king Demento, his thugs and cult suffer. It has to be this way. I know we will all suffer, but it’s obvious we need a reset.
Well, maybe the UAW and other unions that refused to endorse anyone and their members who voted for Trump need to feel the pain to realize that their choices have consequences..?
I keep harping on this in so many of my replies, but trump and apparently most republicans really have no concept of how the real world works and it's excruciating to watch. The absolute DUMBEST people in the history of the planet.
Keep ‘em dumb. They’re much easier to control. All those dumbbells sitting in the cabinet are just there to do the king’s bidding. He knows they aren’t qualified. The dumber the better. Trump is so in love with Elon and the power he represents that he’ll follow Big E’s dictation to the letter.
Me too! Do they not understand the amount of people who work hard in various jobs everyday, just to maintain even the basics of living, like clean water and plumbing?
Clearly not
Yeah, for sure. I know there are republicans who are against trump and his tyranny and I would certainly not want to lump them in with the rest. Arnold Schwarzenegger coming out and saying "I'm an American first and a republican second" was powerful stuff.
And now we turn to the book of FAAFO, and we read "for it is known that it doth suck to suck and all that beheld this great fuckery did gnashing their teeth and despair."
Not to mention the construction trades, facing worker deportations, now 25% increase in lumber, concrete etc. Those disaster areas are going to take another hit while trying to rebuild.
Ever notice how many home health workers are not U.S. born? I’m guessing Philippine guest workers supply the majority. If trump is allowed to deport them, we’ll all feel that pain too.
Canada accounts for 25% of the US lumber market. If they retaliate that will lead to major cost increases in new construction and remodeling not just from retaliation by Canada, but by domestic producers seeking to profit off their production. All the other trades can't work, if nothing is framed.
yep, I was married to a contractor 20 yrs, so that's why my brain went to construction costs 1st. Not to mention I have a large ground level wood deck which needs replacing badly, figured I'd bite the bullet and do it this year. Exploring options now.
Not to mention that Resolute Forest Products, whom merged with Bowater which was a South Carolina based pulp processing company, is a Canadian wood processing company.
Guess where their American operations are? Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida and Michigan. It's the third largest paper company in USA and eighth largest in the world.
Guess who lives in places like Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida and Michigan?
Wildly enough, when I worked as a contractor for Safway and Industrial Piping, Incorporated at Bowater in Catawba, SC at least 80% of the entire workforce at the mill were Hispanic and Asian immigrants.
When I worked there, it was a requirement for all of our personnel on site to be fluent in English, Spanish, French and it was a bonus hire if you spoke Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese... They particularly wanted French speakers because the big brass are French Canadian and only speak French.
I could not think of a worse scenario for SoCal and the nation.
Natural disasters.
No insurance.
No plan.
Plenty greedy people.
Crime Boss attempting to hijack our country and sell it for pennies on the dollar to whoever gets there first.
Fun fact: This will hurt a lot of people who did not vote for him, predominantly people of color. Tamp down your blood lust for five fucking minutes and realize begging for an economic collapse that will affect all 300-something million of us so a small fraction of people you hate suffer is GOP shit
Fun fact it will. I am sorry for the impact it will have but don't lecture me. I did my job for those people. I voted against him too. Take it up with the forces of destruction instead, the losers who chose him. The ones begging for economic collapse are the ones who voted for him. I merely choose
not to express how apalled I am by this entire situation because it doesn't help anything. The only thing that will help, is for that base to learn something the hard way unfortunately. And it is THEY not I who have dragged all those people into it with them.
Not a fan of Americans/other Canadians being like "lol good" like no this is only good if Trump's base aggressively turns on him before it causes any long term damage. Anything else is just going to hurt a lot of innocent people and is not worth cheering on.
Unfortunately some of this has to happen for the cult MAGA & stay at home "Don't do politics" to care. Until they feel actual pain your warnings are fake rage and alarmist to them. Look what happen with the memo. They recinded it, nothing to see here, it was just fake news alarming people.
My husband and I both work in auto manufacturing and I agree with this 💯. We’ve been saving money and cutting expenses so I can weather some layoffs but I guarantee my coworkers - esp MAGA ones - have not.
See I’m not all that concerned. If there’s one thing he’s good at it’s self preserve. He will take this as far as he can go. He might let this go a day. He will play chicken. Then he will announce some bullshit about how Canada agrees to get fentanyl to never come across the border…because it DOESNT
He will then declare victory without ever having done anything, pull back all the tariffs and that’s that. He’ll pull some sort of weird shit with Mexico, extract something that we already get (like he did with Colombia) and declare the same. This is his m.o. we just keep getting sucked into it.
He won’t let himself be responsible for single handily sending us spiraling into an economic freefall. Even he can’t blame his way out of that one. When the red states start heading for the unemployment lines even he might see where his limit of his power hits
You’re absolutely right. His whole game is talk tough stick out his Mussolini chin sit back a day or so, get some
Meaningless concession then scream to all the rubes how he brought Canada, Mexico, etc to their knees. He’s nothing but a con and a grifter. It’s all bullshit. That’s all he knows
Don’t get me wrong he’s also a fucking idiot so we also could be a third world country come March, but I’m banking on self preservation like you said purely out of survival instinct.
Doesn't have the brains or instincts of a feral animal. The Felon's more like an animal with rabies, running around biting indiscriminately at anything in its way.
Haha, I didn't know that Smoot-Hawley was asked in that movie, as I am a turd who hasn't watched it from start to finish (because television and commercials and not owning it).
And now I'll have to watch it fully from you mentioning it.
I have owned it on VHS, now remastered on blu-ray. My daughter's boyfriend had never seen it. Pop it in, he was laughing. I'm very cute, very protective of my body, I'm home alone...Speak any English?!
Trump doesn't think about the people who are going to suffer. He just wants his company, USA Trump Inc. to get bigger and uses his dirty business tactics: crushing his opponent to get more profits.
All because "they treat the USA very badly." Poor victim, the world's leading power!
I worked for a company that distributes electronic components, of which around 75% originated in China, Mexico, and Canada. Those parts go into everything from cars to medical equipment to ag equipment to computers to appliances. and everything in between.
People don't realize how much we rely on those countries. Take a computer cable "Made in the USA". The cable may have been assembled here, but the wire probably came from Mexico and the connector from China. Our country may make finished product, but we DON'T make the parts here.
Guess the FAFO stage is getting ready to start hitting those supporters pocketbooks with no job and higher prices . Let the show begin . It’s the only way to snap them out of their cult mentality.
Total economic collapse may be what saves us from fascism. Americans don’t care about their democracy, but even the slightest increase in prices will lead to some pretty dire consequences for those in power, just ask George W.
I wouldn’t be so sure. Economic collapse is what allowed Hitler to become Germany’s absolute dictator. Although Trump doesn’t understand anything about economics, somewhere in his lizard brain he knows if the economy collapses he can take advantage of it.
Yeah. You’re not wrong. I’m hoping that there will be so much pressure on some GOP house and senate members that there are enough of them to pump the brakes on this madness. There is still a rough framework on checks and balances, I’m just hoping they are exercised before they are taken away.
Hitler wasn’t in power when the collapse started and his scapegoats were the European powers and the Treaty of Versailles. Because they weren’t yet in his grasp, he presented German Communists and then Jews as the cause for the Treaty of Versailles.
True Hitler wasn’t in power until the economic collapse but the 1929 stock market crash and the Great Depression were the impetus that led to his becoming Chancellor. Prior to 1929, the Nazis were quite a marginal faction.
I completely agree. Economic turmoil has always led to substantial ideological swings, whether for the better (FDR and Obama) or for the worst (Hitler, the Iranian Revolution). My point is that it’s a swing; People reject the government or ideology that was in power prior to the economic crash.
BUT Trump is just doing what he is told. It's not Trumo coming up with this crap. It's big tech, it's billionaires and it's so many layers deep that even removing Trump won't stop it.
Not yet but on the way given the acquiescence of the Republican Party. Keep in mind we’re less than two weeks into Trump 2.0. A friend of ours is a federal appeals judge and is mortified with what’s happening. So I wouldn’t be so sure, friend. 💙
For one thing American Jews will shoot first and ask questions after.
Another: Economic collapse does not favor those in power when a majority isn't onboard with fascism.
A majority of Germans in the 30's were ready to listen to Hitler and blame scapegoats. Not so here.
there's already armed guards at the grocery store and Americans almost overthrew the government over police brutality 5 years ago, and Luigi is a national hero.
You're right. I can't imagine that the states that financially carry this nation (almost 80% per capita GDP concentrated in the blue states) will just accept their financial ruin at the hands of an illiterate clown. Watch CA.
Perhaps, or lead to the dissolution of the union. We’re less than 2 weeks into the Trump madhouse. Can you imagine Trump continuing to impose his insanity on the states for 4 years. At what point does California say enough is enough? Oregon and Washington would probably agree.
New York wouldn't be far behind. California already has an approved ballot initiative that'll go to the voters in 2028. I know this is a whole different topic, but I'm pro secession - I've lived half my life in the south, and we are not the same.
As a student of history, particularly the early 20th century, I’ll say you are not wrong. However, at the same time America was suffering economically and FDR came along. So, there is that. Could it go the way you predict? Of course. But we are much bigger and our populous much more diverse; so no.
Agreed, and I keep hearing the "we're too big of a country" statement, I just don't think that's entirely accurate. My concern is that our lack of digital privacy makes us infinitely smaller. These conversations we are having right now, tagged, put on a list, etc. Lots of us, but easier to find.
Yes. I am certain we are being tracked. But we need to speak out. Look at it this way: they know how many of us oppose this 🐂💩. I have friends that still fight with MAGAs on the other platforms; and you their on a list.
I never understood that. Why would anyone engage, on any level, with a Nazi sympathizer? There is zero value in the cynicism, gaslighting, and misinformation that is the core of all their arguments. Also, tell your friends to cancel their X accounts, they are in inherent danger using that platform.
SCOTUS bestows immunity on Trump that George III didn’t have. Trump has a party in charge of Congress that’s supine to his wishes. And a country too—pick your adjective—to stop him last November 5th. Many Germans tried fighting back. It didn’t end well for them, for the world and for Germany.
Sir, Hitler ( partially ) came to power because nazis were considered unaffiliated with those in power during collapse. Its not the same. And quite frankly i dont think 0.001% will sit idly. Those ‘tax cuts’ are meaningless once rest of the planet uses this precedent to discard $ in trade…
Not the same, but different extenuating circumstances that could lead to the same result. 79 million Americans will quite literally believe anything Shitler tells them. If economic collapse is successfully pinned on, um, Nancy Pelosi - it won’t matter who was in power when the collapse occurred.
And as a guy who spent most of his life in the south, I’d argue that MAGA folks are bone-deep stupid, and completely lack the ability to comprehend that they are in a cult. So much so that they were dying on the ER rotisserie of COVID while denying that the disease even existed.
Those in the Trump cult who believe anything he says is not equal to the 79 million who voted for him. Some are reachable and won’t be fooled by his BS. More important, are the 90 million who didn’t vote for whatever reason. I believe many of them won’t be fooled either.
Hitler was not significantly rising in popularity until the 1929 NY stock market crash that killed German’s economic recovery underway after WWI. Had it not been for the crash, it’s highly likely Hitler’s populism would have taken hold.
It wouldn't since they were already losing support. Him coming to power was solely due to idiocy of ‘conservative’ political elites and Army miscalculation - Schleiher and all that jazz.
Thanks! I’m pretty well read on the subject, but I’ll look it over. I think a lot of how this new reality will play out is purely speculative, but to deny that there are not horrible parallels to how the Third Reich came to power and what’s happening today in the US is a grave mistake.
Perfectly said. Tonight, I had a brief discussion with a federal appeals judge who is a friend of ours. The judge is mortified and terrified about what’s happening. According to the judge, people are being dismissed right left and center.
A key difference is that Germany’s financial collapse was largely due to the effects of the punitive terms of the Treaty of Versailles ending WWI, and some bad subsequent decisions. Hitler took advantage of Germans’ animosity about all that. Trump will be more directly responsible for his.
I hope you are right. I’d say that Trump is very skilled at deflection and his ability to escape accountability. But in reality, American’s are just wide-eyed simps. His success will likely hinge on his ability to pin the coming economic calamity on someone or something besides himself.
"Hindenburg appointed Hitler to this position as the result of a political deal. Certain conservative politicians convinced President Hindenburg to make the appointment. They wanted to use the Nazi Party’s popularity for their own purposes. They mistakenly believed that they could control Hitler. "
This was after the 1929 stock market crash, that hit Germany, which had been recovering after WWI, very hard. Until the economic collapse of the Great Depression, the Nazis were basically a fringe element.
Hitler used the fire at the Reichstag building to suspend the constitution and restrict rights of German citizens "to protect them"
I think Trump is trying to cause rebellion to suspend the constitution.
No argument. And the SCOTUS6 immunity decision gives him almost 100% impunity to do so. I’m increasingly of the view he will find a way to suspend the midterm elections.
The US is also significantly bigger than Germany has ever been, both geographically, population-wise, and economically.
At least half that population also aren't uneducated about history, and the people of Germany didn't have access to information about a Hitler before them.
The Nazis were a fringe element until the economic collapse of the Great Depression. If things were bad in the US they were beyond bad in Germany. Read this and perhaps you’ll have a different view:
If Americans didn't care about voting why did the Republicans purge 4 million (mostly Black) voters for the 2024 election? If you didn't fight against voter suppression & racial gerrymandering then this is what YOU chose for America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_XdtAQXnGE
I was referring to Trump supporters, but thank you. I think the people that give a shit about democracy and voting rights are the ones they’re trying to marginalize… obviously.
I misunderstood. Many folks I know had their votes not accepted for ridiculous reasons. They are very upset. The Republican Regime is trying to rig it so they never lose again after Trump, so if folk don't know about voter suppression & racial gerrymandering then they are part of the problem.
Absolutely. We need to know our enemy, and be aware of their tactics to be able effectively counter them. The first step in that process is to educate ourselves.
We absolutely need to know our enemy, & be aware of their tactics. Republicans are doing a lot of dodgy stuff & there's so much it is hard to keep up. That's why I shared to documentary with you.
There are elections this year across the country - check your state, country, city/town, school board. Don't wait for federal elections, state & local are equally as important.
You don't hear the press tell us Trump has a degree in economics! I took econ 101 in college and know more than him. He's grossly incompetent, happily ripping us off and doesn't care bc he's making $, we're not and no one can stop him. No more of the people, for the people, by the people.
Why do you think he was so excited about "ace-ing" his cognitive test? It was the first test in his life that he didnt pay someone to take for him. Has an economics degree? Yeah, riiiiight.
I welcome the economic fallout of this morons grifting. When the uneducated hurt enough to overcome their hate, opinion of him will change. Problem is that his followers will gladly burn this country and its people to install their perceived god given theocracy as the government.
The only problem with that is, Republican voters have voted against their own interests forever, so I don't think they feel the pain, they just blame the wrong people and rinse and repeat their entire lives. Now the rest of us with brains have to live and suffer through what we know is fact. 🤷♀️
I mean I get it, but remember it’s not just Americans that are being hurt. As Canadians we will be massively impacted financially and have nothing to do with your garbage politics. So now I get to have anxiety about how this this will hurt my family because your MAGA needs to be taught a lesson.
They only can do that if people let them, and believe it or not you have a lot of power at the local level. Make sure you know your local leaders will fight back, if not get them out.
I'm in pedophile Gaetz's district! This entire state is corrupt and I honestly think the abortion and marijuana choices passed and the Governor did something. I lost everyone I know here (except 2 people, lol) because I refuse to associate with anyone that has low enough morals to vote for rapists!
Florida is tough, but man you guys have a real opportunity if your Dem party can get it together. Door knock in communities impacted by the immigration crap. Hand out know your rights with QR codes for dem websites. Make a list of all the local elections so people start voting.
Yes yes! I have been saying this since Nov 6. Those of us who know struggle will survive. Those born into privilege, well…🤔🤔🤔. Apathy and ignorance is dangerously for those that need it the most.
He can be stopped Americas politicians need to grow a set. He can try to Fck with 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 and 🇨🇳 but one thing is for sure our leaders are way way more intelligent. Every economist on the planet told him to not do this. And here we are. 🍊💩
I have my doubts because of corrupt SCOTUS who I completely believe violated our constitutional rights! They are political and everything they do, that the Senate does, and the house, we know what it is gonna be... Allow Trump endless power and to rule all 3 branches! Who's gonna check his power?
do you really expect the mid term elections to be free and fair. trump has 2 years to establish more power in this country. he is installing in supporters into every level of our government. the red state outnumber the blue states and even in blue state the officials in charge of elections are trum
Visited Trump or actually voted with the GOP regardless of the voters not wanting that, they literally made a law that is racist ! Ugg ok I'm done they give me a headache... Ever since Kavanaugh was confirmed because Trump lied and twisted through getting away with everything right in front of us.
Like it matters that Dems are even in a confirmation hearing, the completely unqualified smug asshole KNOWS they are confirmed because the GOP welcomes corruption, is corrupt, or cares more about themselves than the damage that person will do to the country. While fetterman and other DEMS either...
Don't have other Dems running against them who vow to work across the isle, they have literally robbed us! We play nice and they steal a SCOTUS seat and we act like nothing can be done. We play nice and the country is so gerrymandered we don't have a voice in most states! While we...
That's not gonna work. These people have said they want Trump to be a dictator, they trust him more than God. It's us that needs to wake the fuck up and stop trusting our democracy will hold up. There are more Republicans now than Democrats for the first time in my life! While we elect Dems that...
The mid-terms won’t make a difference: they blew the opportunity for Republicans’ full destruction yet lost more seats than they gained…not a recipe for success in an election!!😞😡
Then we must push for justices and judges to do their jobs with injunctions. Write letters to senators and representatives, major and minor newspapers.
There must be a way to stop the downward spiral.
He is destroying our relationships with our allies.
Yes, it will be as bad if not worse as warned loud and clear for months during the campaign. Evidently, most American voters decided they wanted this. Many car parts are manufactured or assembled in Mexico… and Canada. The traitor felon wants to ruin Pres. Biden’s good economy, kill jobs and hurt us
Project 2025 is what's happening right now. This is all right out of the playbook. It's 1000 pages of tic-tac-toe theory to dismantle the government. Some of it is quite brilliant but the result is O so stupid.
Even more stupid that the entire PDF of Project 2025 has been available online well before the election took place, posted and reposted online, and ppl apparently ignored it and voted for him anyway.
Now they can watch as project 25 is implemented step by step to dismantle the government and move all the powers towards the executive. The birth of a new christo-fascist monarch
Yes. We al saw the fragility of so many supply chains during the lockdowns.
Imaging the amount of layoff due to let's say conveyer belt parts (from China) not being available and haulting entire production lines.
Trump's actions will be devastating
God forgive me, but I’m looking forward to things just like this. I hope all the bad things happen & quickly before another virus comes along for him to blame it on. The only way a lot of these ppl will EVER snap out of the trance they’re in is for it to directly affect their own immediate family😞
Every one of them I've ever dared talk with would go down with the trump ship. Claiming it's those leftist, woke, progressive democrats faults. To them I say: stay sleep.
I couldn't agree more. They HAVE to hit rock bottom. If the Dems keep saving them (like they just did with the funding freeze), they will NEVER understand what they've done. How bad it's going to get.
He doesn’t care. We continually prove him wrong and a terrible businessman. But it comes at our expense. He will be the two time worst president. FU Mark Barnett
Mark Burnett has a lot to answer for. Not only did he thrust the 🍊💩 on us, his "Survivor" tribal bullshittery has turned society into a constant competition. Everything is a Tribe, now, just as we may have been evolving past that.
Canada has big plans in place for their own tariffs. The U.S. might not feel the pinch right away but the snowball effect of not having parts for cars, minerals, fuels, oils, gems, wood, and more, could cause big disruptions, and unemployment on both sides of the border.
Yes, nickel is a big one from Ontario. But, there is only so much one can write on here so I tried to condense it.
And, there is so much more that I didn't include.
Haha! Yes! Fortunately for my family I keep a BIG stockpile on hand of all the paper products so we never run out. I'm kind of particular about making sure that's never an issue. I know, overkill, but you never know what can happen.
It really does work both ways, but in all reality this shouldn't have even happened.
Now he's going after European nations.
No one is safe from his wrath.
Don't think it's just building products we sell to the U.S. It's a plethora of criticals such as oil, gas, electricity, lumber, vehicles and vehicle parts, paper products, iron, steel and other metals. And much more.
LSMS: if 🇨🇦 refuses to export our goods to the U.S., we could cripple the 🇺🇸
One of the things that non-Americans (and many Americans for that matter) is that the electoral college (and gerrymandering) can wipe out actual majorities for democrats
Not valid for the presidential election in Michigan. No gerrymandering, Trump got a clear majority of votes in the states, in absolute value. First step to fixing things is to stop with denial
So you were off topic since the discussion was about MI specifically.
Btw, Trump won the popular vote nationally. There is literally a majority of Americans who preferred Trump 😬
President-49.7% trump, 48.3% Harris; Senate-blue; House districts-evenly split between blue & red; Governor-blue; Secretary of State-blue; Attorney General-blue. One of those swing states that looked to be going blue, then the numbers mysteriously switched for trump.
That's right! College students at ECU and NC State + others were paid by this guy to rig an election via absentee ballots. They sat around in rooms with his ex wife's daughter doing it as a side hustle.
Our Dear Leaders were even so gracious as to allow McRae Dowless to die at home on the taxpayer dollar instead of in a penitentiary for committing mail in ballot and social security fraud.
Trump had an assist from Putin & Facebook in 2016. In 2020, he tried to steal an election through the courts and then with an insurrection. The GOP passed numerous election laws in swing states. For those who paid close attention to the ‘24 election, the results look very suspicious.
Which is why we aren't out there screaming about this like they did, duh? it's normal to have doubts based on actual logic and evidence, however, which is completely unlike the Trumpies in 2020.
It's indigo; we voted Biden in 2020, our state house barely went red in 2024, and we still have a blue triplex.
Frankly, I welcome it. Was HR at a shop that was tied to automotive - the fuckwits there deserve to reap their consequences, and I am not the one who has to listen to it anymore.
Not to me personally because cars are bad but to most people, especially republicans, it’s an existential threat to their lifestyle. For workers in the industry it’s a threat to their families survival. And for the USA as a functioning country with some International relations, it’s a disaster.
They won’t need to protect themselves because they will sell us out! I hope those who voted for this BS or didn’t vote, understand what they did to this country!
Believe it. The south comes up with the most backwards laws. Missouri wouldn’t ban child marriage, and one of their law makers talked about his own parent’s child marriage as evidence it’s not bad. I’m not even joking. Kids can get married there, but not divorced.
Be aware that Senator Campbell OPPOSES this legislation. She was trying to highlight it as horrific. The tweet itself might make it seem she likes it. The opposite is true. She's a good guy.
The bill does not include a blanket directive that criminalizes voting against all of Drump's immigration policies, nor does it criminalize votes from everyday people. It does bar officials to vote in support of "sanctuary" policies protecting immigrants in the country illegally
Someone should be monitoring the stock trades of everyone in the Trump orbit. If you know the timing for these moves, you. Could make a killing (Kelly Loeffler 👀).
It is vey bad. The supply chains among the three countries are tightly interwoven. A transmission assembled in Mexico would have US parts. It would then go to Canada for for final assembly along with an engine from Michigan and a tires from Ohio. (This example is inaccurate but you get the idea)
In fact, there are only two genuine American brands: Goodyear and Cooper. The largest foreign tire companies with plants in the US include Michelin, Pirelli, Continental, Bridgestone, and Yokohama.
Goodyear, cooper, Hoosiers, Mickey thompson, dick Cepek. All USA made. Michelin, Yokohama, Bridgestone, continental. All foreign companies, but make tires in USA . Not China.
It's true that Bridgestone makes speciality tires in the US, but regular automobile tires are made in the far east, or at least that's what a Bridgestone manager told me.
As you can see from the list below, they have four factories in China.
Yes you’re absolutely right. Car parts can cross the borders many times before they are rolled out in a completed car. Most of us have little understanding of the trade between the 3. Remember this trade deal was renegotiated by Trump in his 1st term. No words I can say that are printable here.
I have family that work for Toyota.. they definitely get parts from Canada.. not sure about Mexico.. and they voted for the turd. Because “he seems to have some good ideas”. Hope they have some savings.
Trump renegotiated NAFTA in his first term. It’s now called USMCA. Obviously agreements mean nothing to that orange monster Americans thought would be good for their country, despite knowing how bad his first term was. Despising Americans just now.
If you're hinting at a broad transition away from cars as part of a carbon-zero future, it strikes me as a flimsy premise. Cars, at least as EVs, aren't disappearing. Massive job losses & near-term suffering doesn't build a case for transformation. Also, the industry is continental, not USA-first.
Yup. I just ordered a bunch of parts for my Fiesta because I know they're gonna go up in price next week. There are already long backorders for a ton of simple parts, it's only going to get worse.
That’s the point. Trump wants to collapse UAW and Shawn Fain and make them bend for showing the American worker the good we get in unions and standing together. Maybe I sound crazy but he’s playing warfare against our lives. War on the worker
I doubt uaw members voted for him in high numbers compared to the construction unions. Construction union members need to be studied because they really always vote against their own interests
Unions don't vote. Union members do. Union members can be MAGA or not. I'm trying to wrap my head around how this is a situation where you would blame unions?
Where’s the boxed wine coming from? California? I really don’t know. But what about Coronas? They’ll all have to drin Rcoorsnornrolling rock. And, more importantly, what about diapers? Where are they manufactured? It’s gonna be a blast!
that's not necessarily true what is true is that they are intending to cause a collapse of the American system and they are OK with causing a massive recession, chaos and pain. This is what they stated they were going to do.
I agree it has to happen that’s all mega will understand they have to feel if see it and it has to hit them right in the gut. That’s the only way these people will walk away
Sadly, yes. It's going to take a full-scale denazification, and no way that happens unless America is toppled. If only the heads of the military actually cared about honoring their vows to uphold the constitution.
It’s bad, predictable, and perhaps Trumpers and non-voters will start thinking about their responsibility to their country with a bit more seriousness.
Good. Shut it down. Then shit will get real VERY fast and the Trumplymoon will be OVER. Oust the fascist bastard and put the rest of them on notice. Washington and Jefferson would have them swinging from the lamp posts by now...
This is an excellent strategy and one I full heartedly support. The only way we take back our Republic is to let the bastard fascists hang themselves. And they’ve already bought the ropes.
This is quite literally the only reason I haven't been stockpiling beer bottles and gasoline. They're waiting for us to get rowdy. That's the last piece he needs to get total control
I agree. Let people see what "America First" aka... we won't help any other country and we don't need their help... actually looks like. Let them see what it looks like if America is the fucking island they want it to be. It's gonna be rough. It's gonna suck. But fuck it, let's ride.
I hate to agree with anything that results in countless people being hurt, but unfortunately, I don’t see any way out other than for us to bounce off of rock bottom. Painfully. It won’t be until the majority sees that the pain isn’t reserved for scapegoat minorities that they’ll begin to notice.
I haven't driven a car since 2017 when I was scammed by the South Carolina DMV. I am lucky enough to have two functional legs so far, though and I am used to having to do things like walk 20 miles round trip to a grocery store since I live in a Red State.
If your goal is to create the perfect conditions for fascism, then yes.
Fascism thrives during economic turmoil. Look at every losing European nation after World War 1.
When this happens. I'll get back on Facebook to rub salt in all the maga wounds. And I'll be promptly either in FB jail, or police sent to my house. Taking bets?
Maybe instead commiserate with them, suggest Trump the billionaire has been lying to them & perhaps in midterms they might want to vote straight blue. We need their vote - the vinegar ain’t working let’s try a little honey.
So my maga fam are flat earthers. They literally tell me that we needed to round up all the "brown" and get them out! I just say, well be prepared to pay $25 for tomatoes.
And I get laughed at. So am I bitter- yes. I am. I won't be ruined. They will. I'm educated. They are not. I'll go full blast.
I often wonder why if earth is flat then why doesn’t anyone ever fall off edge. How long is earth if you start at one edge & drive to other side? What country is an edge located in. I seriously asked this of only flat-earth person I met & he couldn’t answer. Told him perhaps mayb it was round
Yes! And we literally DID land on the moon! Like why is that a thing? Why is that being questioned? And no rump is not better than "sleepy Joe" and no Joe isn't a pedophile. So over the stupidity
Still think if Trump could manipulate them to begin with (he’s not smart-neither are most of them) then when they lose jobs, benefits, SocSec etc we should b smart enou to manipu them back. Just a thought. We hav time to figure out means/methods of manipulation. We need some cult expert psychologis
THIS IS THE GOAL. Republicans and Billionaires want to CRASH EVERYTHING so they come in and buy it for pennies and rape the country for all its money and resources
Yep, if you want to read how it happened read Red Notice by Bill Browder. Putin eventually took control of all the oligarchs forcing them to sign an agreement they would give putin a percentage of their grifting.
👉 Musk wants to be the 1st trillionaire.
The only good thing about the die part is that Musk at all has pissed off MAGA who have a huge surplus of guns and they tend to shoot at whatever's causing the problem when they get pissed off especially if they get betrayed.
I come from a county in Pennsylvania that was labeled deep dark red on the voting map. We had this county commissioner who was really pissing them off. And they pointed out to her nicely at first she was pissing them off by damaging her car and the property. And then they shot her picture window out
She took the hint and resigned because the bullet hole was right next to her chair in the living room. To be fair they did warn her. But they can't do the same to Donald and I don't think they would mind bypassing. I just know my relations
The best thing to do is you can post here but then also write your senator and your congressman. They are the ones thick and hold Trump accountable. We can write the letters.
This is what Musk meant when he said Americans would have to endure "temporary" hardships. He said it will last 2 years, but if the whole US auto industry is destroyed the hardships will be forever.
I truly believe these tariffs are a rouse to tank the stock market so these billionaires can buy in low. Manipulate the markets. They won’t care about the export/import ramifications. He won’t care if jobs are lost and the powers out. Etc.
Yeah. Just generally speaking, it really looks like he/his fellow would-be looters are messing with some fairly titanic forces which, I don’t think they really get how… volatile? unpredictable? said forces are. Their hubris is going to have some real run-ins with Things That Are Bigger Than They Are
I’d rather drive a beat up 1949 VW Beetle than purchase a slab of aluminum death from a apartheid bigot. He can keep his death traps and go back to South Africa.
That’s not how credit markets work. Sure, brave people will buy. But there’s no way to know that it won’t just break the market. Pretty tough to get it back under control. Trump isn’t exactly going to be able to fix it
If the tariffs are too brutal, all sorts of debt becomes toxic and we have no idea what that means overall. It’s like taking the brakes out of your car and using your feet to stop
98% of what these dipshits do or try to do with stocks seems to not be how an economy works, but that never seems to stop them creating new bubbles or depressions or scams and then somehow skating after when the rest of us are living off second-hand beans and rainwater.
Exactly. There’s tons of examples too where a certain company tries a little social engineering and they just never recover. Massive complex problems aren’t easily manipulated
He certainly won’t. Many companies will crack under the pressure. My assumption is that those who gamble in a crisis are either reckless or can afford the losses.
but doesn't those stocks regaining their value rely on consumer demand, all things considered?
at the rate Dear Leader is throwing people out of work, I don't see where that demand will come from. it's not like any of us will be reimbursed for our losses
I think he has log term up his something up his sleeve. First term, he immediately went to Russia and north Korea. This term went straight to Saudi Arabia. More at play here.
You are right, they may take a longtime to bounce back. People buying at the bottom of the market can afford to wait it out. Average investors don’t have that kind of time and the vultures know it.
That's what I'm thinking ... part of me wonders how they expect the market to recover when unemployment is high and people aren't receiving SocSec? Breaking the consumer in a consumer economy seems pretty risky is you expect them to make all those shareholders happy and they're broke
Also, anyone who loses their house to bankruptcy. It will be bought up for cheap by corporations, and rented at twice the value to the people who just lost their house.
Elon and Peter Thiel and the rest of the billionaire class want exactly this to happen. They want conditions like Russia in the 1990s after the collapse, which led to the rise of the oligarchs, who were able to buy up crucial industries for a song.
Yup, I agree and I’ll also buy if the market does tank! - We just bought a new truck last night, on purpose. We weren’t intending to. We had hoped to squeak another year out of our old one. 🥴
I remember the last time he was in office. "I'm putting tariffs on China" the stock market down. Then nothing happened. A month later he would say the same thing. He is manipulating the system
I sit right in the middle of the big 3 and ALL the supplies in Michigan so I’m going to know pretty fast. And these Trump bitches will cry the hardest so don’t let them fool you.
Yeah, right there with ya. I work in freight handling in MI, and a healthy amount of our customer base is in automotive parts(shocking, I'm sure). We lose that, it's gonna be really brutal. At best, we lose hours, at worst we lose jobs. It's gonna be pretty clear in due time.
and yet, they want federal employees to return to in-person work...how the hell we gonna get to work if we don't have a vehicle to drive??? (fyi - not all fed employees live in areas with robust public transit systems)
In the county I grew up in there is a Toyota plant. It employees more people than everything else combined. Most of them trump voters. It's gonna hurt but it needs to for them to even think about seeing trump for what he is.
It's alright, in four years if we are lucky to get to that point someone who actually understands basic, first week of community college level economics (a Democrat) will bail them out. Again. Still.
When the Eastern block countries and social movement nations were staving, because they killed the agricultural scientists (literally assassinated them to take their jobs) and they round up the farmers to take their land...
... the just sat there resound in their nationalism.
The UAW endorsed KH.
Members supported her over DJT.
Libs abandoned workers far before the opposite occurred.
Saying the pain DJT causes is karmic is sick + why liberalism always fails and leads to fascism.
Ever hear of coalitions? Are you trying to make sure no one without a degree votes D ever?
Because these tariffs are illegal. Canada is responsible for 2% of the fentanyl that comes into the USA. Dump has broken the deal with 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 that he enthusiastically signed when he was in office the first time.
Funny how none of you cry fascism when regular people are forced to hand over 50% or more of their income through various federal, state and local taxes.
Before that, there is a phase of denial and blaming anyone else. Only after there is no possible way to do that with the most extreme logical contortions, then it gets to the FO.
Alas, rarely are the consequences of stupidity limited to The Stupid, themselves.
They’ll find out… but millions of people who had nothing to do with the Cheeto Bandito will also suffer.
Hopefully, we knew, and prepared for it. These MAGA dipshits probably went out and put themselves into deep dept buying swastitrucks. Thanks to Biden, i was able to eliminate my debt. Im preparing for survival.
yes Jamelle this is VERY bad for all three countries. Dictator Donald J Dumpster is wrong about this not affecting Americans. Imported oil/gas, natural gas, precious metals, hydroelectric power & water from Canada will increase in cost significantly for Americans.
Canada ought to send all its resources to Europe via Greenland. And maybe blast a bloody great ditch from Lake Superior to the West Coast separating itself from the US.
Honestly, at this point, I am just enjoying the chaos. I love the thought of these dumbfucks who voted for fucking tr*mp losing their healthcare and watching their children starve and die of polio. They get what they deserve.
The sad thing is, decent, intelligent, hardworking people suffer too.
No, I don't. If I did, I would have voted for fucking tr*mp. These are predictable, natural result of his policies. What I love is the birds coming home to roost. I want everyone to have what they need, even people who hate me, but since America chose darkness, I have to settle for schadenfreude.
You're right. It was 2 AM and I was extremely agitated from watching my country being auctioned off like a meat market. I'm so sick of all of this and it's making me nihilistic.
Part of me wants to witness Trump singlehandedly tank the economy in a week. I want all his voters to see they were wrong to support him. But I know if it happened, he'd blame Democrats for it and they'd drink the Kool aid.
Liz Truss tanked the UK economy in a week. She was eventually ousted. The economy is still recovering and she’s trying to sue a newspaper for blaming her…sound familiar?
I want him ousted! Him and his accomplices who set him up for success to do it. Self-serving, callously cruel, gluttonous leeches. Evil. They're hurting everyone, including their Republican constituents, as foolish as they are by still worshipping Tramp. They're gonna hurt, same as us. We all lose.
Psychopaths love to destroy good things. Good life. They increasingly want attention focused on them only, by any means. Everything, everyone is collateral
That is why I am
convinced that the assassination attempt was a setup to make the felon look brave: Collateral damage of any kind is irrelevant to him. I think he cheated too, but that's another rant.
I agree on both of these. Stephen Spoonamore's "Duty to Warn" letter to Kamala Harris outlines his whole theory of the steal. He is a Republican too. Google it.
Inflation is gonna hit every single American. If he hits China with tariffs we'll see nearly all goods increase in price by 25%, at least. Nobody will escape this. We're going to see grocery prices go up immediately from this.
While they'll be hit first, massive job loss like that and multiple US businesses going under will have a domino effect and impact the rest of us. And with Musk mucking around the treasury, I'm worried that if banks start going under, FDIC insurance won't get paid out.
Yes, the FDIC is targeted by P2025 as well, but they don't even need to axe it. My concern is that the systems will just be down because Musk and co are unplugging random shit.
Vehicles from GM, Ford, and Stellantis (parent of Dodge, Jeep, and Ram) are manufactured and imported from both Canada and Mexico. Not to mention the parts need to build a car come from Tiered suppliers in those countries.
Fair enough. I'm involved in the auto industry as a writer for both my "day job" and this content I create under the Carbage name. I'm seeing this crap from the front and have been warning for a while. Many heard but didn't listen.
I'm used to it and enjoy everything else about the industry (particularly motorsports, lifestyle, and customization side). Not everyone involved in automotive is Conservative, they are just the loudest in more ways than one.
Hopefully, our nation is waking up and will send a message in these special elections. Please, share and raise awareness! Democrats just flipped a Trump +21 State Senate seat in Iowa so there is a chance they can pick off these seats as well! We can use Bluesky to organize and catch Trump sleeping.
This is the Republican nominee in FL06. He is consistently releasing these statements against DeSantis Republicans. A split GOP in a low turnout election could lead to Democrat @joshweil.bsky.social winning.
Please explain why would anyone vote for a pedophile. What is wrong with you people in his district.
Hope you don't have any young daughters.
Wake up people.
He spends his time and money working on his face and doing bidding for the orange terd. Does he help anybody in his district
I was talking to one of my neighbors about protests. Musk and trump truly don’t care about any opinions we give in a protest or a demonstration. All they care about is money and power.
A work strike and/or a purchase strike might be our best option.
That’s brilliant!
As are Marc & Rachel~
I’m in MI
North of Detroit is Howell-well known for their KKK presence
And known militia groups in the more rural northern areas
This is our state capital during height of covid whining about the shut downs
Their ignorance is dangerous
#StableGeniuses
How sad we have to do this. And what’s the point of a resistance protest that doesn’t get noticed by anyone (media)? Isn’t the very point of a protest to show there are thousands of Americans that are not onboard with what the Felon Rapist & his cronies are doing?
R’s know the fix is in & no longer pretend to care about constituents
Elections haven’t been fair for decades w/GOP gerrymandering—voter suppression—foreign adversarial assistance that has been ignored
#Republicans are Enemies Of The State
ALL OF THEM SUPPORTED PROTECTED A FELON FOR POTUS
Checking out the wikipedia page, Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, west virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Ohio, Arizona, Nevada, California, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, and Kansas.
Apathy and spite of the "others" is playing into Trump, Musk and Putin's game. Do what is right even for those who are misled. More tarriffs on allies to cripple Musk's competition and the unions? Once those jobs and factories close, and the tooling is shipped to china, it will never come back.
How effective might Trump's lies about the economy be in the face of an economic downturn? Can he convince enough people that it's because of something the Biden administration did? That it's because of DEI policies? How else can he lie about the economy to cover up his deep, deep stupidity?
Project 2025. A handful of oligarchs will own everything. The masses will be an ignorant, poor working class; to be used and discarded, with no social safety nets.
That is exactly correct. They saw how it worked in 2008 with the RE bubble. Corrupt and greedy folks bought up housing from those who lost their homes. These monsters, like Steven Mnuchin took all they could get then took some more.
Great way of putting it! I was also referring to the fact that rental properties get treated worse than owned homes, so the neighborhoods will lose property value. Soon every neighborhood will be a slum.
There are many bad actors making offers on houses and vacant land every day in the USA. My husband and I have received thousands of offers to buy our land. They are all quick sale by murky people.
It reminds me of 2008, when people got mad that they might have to help their neighbors with their house payments. They refused, the houses went vacant, the property values went down, and those selfish people had to pay anyway, through lowered net wealth.
What can they do with it though? Unless everyone in the newly established "Trumpville" tent cities pooled their money together for a down payment. Depression will eventually affect the rich too. Business schools dont teach that, i bet. We are all connected.
Maybe the silverlining for people that own their home is that new construction will collapse and existing home prices will go through the roof. Big caveat: That is if Fatboy Nonslim doesn't send us spinning into another Great Recession or Depression. Even chances on that.
Monopoly capitalism. The purpose is to consolidate wealth into as few hands as possible. At this stage, the conflict is still at a national level. Tarrifs are an indication that it's becoming international as the competition from international competitors is too strong. This leads to world wars.
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Don’t offer him anything: Let our car factories close. Let construction halt from jacked up lumber prices.
We’ll see how the MAGA faithful react when they’re all out of work.
I'm a little suspicious you're right.
Economic collapse. Then the executive branch is our savior with a digital currency profit scheme.
There will be blood in the streets. By design.
It's accelerating economic apartheid, man.
I like your temperament about it: waiting it out.
That's cute.
You know T*ump is a whore for chaos.
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=THgbXzDAHyfxIlJQ
https://theintercept.com/2022/07/22/bitcoin-crypto-el-salvador-nayib-bukele/
They don't want MAGAs on the news saying they love Trump and don't understand why tariffs have meant they're on a temporary layoff*
*I think it's been widely shown that most Americans don't understand tariffs at all
The executive branch is controlling the message.
The disabled, woke, BIPOC, immigrant, (my / your name here), are at fault has traction already.
Just like in the matrix: there is no spoon.
- don't ask questions;
- listen to the expert;
- don't contradict
He is going to have hard time, especially in the contradition field. No goof for blood pressure.
Canadians can buy and go into agreement with Cjina. They sell cars for 1/4 the price. Make things cheaper by passing US.
Let Americans taste the consequences of voting for Trump and the GOP.
All three branches are under GOP control, let them own what comes next.
Shit shit shit.
Case in point, The Geneva Convention
If I were these countries- I’d just let it happen- don’t import to the US
he does it to bluff and pressure them into a DEAL
it won’t take long for him to back off when his base starts to feel the pain
But once they understand that fact (if they ever do…)
our cowardly congress can be intimidated to turn on trump if they fear losing their power - Congress still has power if they choose to use it
The there is also you the people that must not just accept this as a given.
This is a war and one he cannot win unless you let him!
I will just leave that there for people to think about.
Yet, I see people already starting to suffer from his actions …
we are going to suffer but have to choose which kind of pain has a long term positive outcome - caving to a mad man is a short term solution and just validates an promotes more of that behavior
This isn't a government anymore!
It's a crime syndicate!
The failure of the US and UK to transition their economies has led to the increase in anger at Gvmt, exploited by the right and far right.
Swathes of US and UK industrial area, just left to rot.
Nothing and no investment to help those affected.
Fuck Ronald Reagan for making Murdoch a US citizen.
it wasn't about the price of eggs - greedy psychopaths use 'the economy' (AKA wealth) to measure the success of every person in the country. the idiotic bigots go along with it whether or not they understand this cus they're also bigots.
It's going to get worse, still. 🫠
Let's all just be honest here.
I've got my popcorn ready, a hefty savings account and a lot of guns.
Foresee using one of those in the near future.
Does not work with oligarchs in control of media.
Remember who there leader is. He just takes what he wants and never pays for anything. How many poor cities did he bail on paying all his election crap. He stiffs who he can.
Everyone let's him get away with it and always have. That's the way all magas are.
Embarrassing.
The sooner the economic pain begins, the sooner maga turns.
I don't think this will be a playable crash, like covid causing negative oil prices, I think it will take a while to play out and I'm just looking to avoid selling low as my dividend income falls.
D.O.G.E.?
No war but class war.
If you are an artist, this is pretty much your only job the next 4yrs, aside from surviving
" Biden has been the most Pro Labor Union POTUS since FDR"
"Biden bent over backwards for Unions"
-UAW
But couldn't overcome the power of members who watched Newsmax OANN as a News Source.
Propaganda works & until we realize that this will continue to get worse.
Clearly not
Guess who lives in places like Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida and Michigan?
Natural disasters.
No insurance.
No plan.
Plenty greedy people.
Crime Boss attempting to hijack our country and sell it for pennies on the dollar to whoever gets there first.
The Bible isn't important to him, it was a prop. I don't think he even believes in God.
Screwing up the economy…AGAIN!!
Meaningless concession then scream to all the rubes how he brought Canada, Mexico, etc to their knees. He’s nothing but a con and a grifter. It’s all bullshit. That’s all he knows
Trump certainly is like a feral animal with an instinct for self preservation...
He's like that kid in the back of the class making armpit farts and thinking he's smarter than everybody....
But they do not care.
And now I'll have to watch it fully from you mentioning it.
All because "they treat the USA very badly." Poor victim, the world's leading power!
Trust me, we're screwed.
Another: Economic collapse does not favor those in power when a majority isn't onboard with fascism.
A majority of Germans in the 30's were ready to listen to Hitler and blame scapegoats. Not so here.
I think Trump is trying to cause rebellion to suspend the constitution.
At least half that population also aren't uneducated about history, and the people of Germany didn't have access to information about a Hitler before them.
Economic collapse was happening everywhere in the 1930’s fascism only reared its head in a few countries.
Next up? China, BRICS?, hmmm.
Empires rise only to fall. The oligarchs know it, but hope to make a few more billions before the crash!
I won't acquiesce and I'm too sick to be a rebel. I choose to have faith.
This gov't is still by, of and for the people. The people just need to wake the fuck up.
Because constituents were jamming their phones protesting.
We can use their wish to stay in power against them, but only if we step up.
There must be a way to stop the downward spiral.
He is destroying our relationships with our allies.
I knew the world would eventually end, but I didn't think it would be this stupid.😅😭
They’ll find out they’re wrong the next time they pay double for a wheel bearing on their Bronco and then somehow pin it on AOC.
Imaging the amount of layoff due to let's say conveyer belt parts (from China) not being available and haulting entire production lines.
Trump's actions will be devastating
Burnett is a 👹
And, there is so much more that I didn't include.
Wish we could do it though.
We should concentrate on our own Trump: BallHead Dutton
We’re sitting ducks.
Now he's going after European nations.
No one is safe from his wrath.
LSMS: if 🇨🇦 refuses to export our goods to the U.S., we could cripple the 🇺🇸
Btw, Trump won the popular vote nationally. There is literally a majority of Americans who preferred Trump 😬
Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCrae_Dowless
It was sus. I personally think it was manipulated by Musk & others, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
Frankly, I welcome it. Was HR at a shop that was tied to automotive - the fuckwits there deserve to reap their consequences, and I am not the one who has to listen to it anymore.
Depends on who you ask.
Oh well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/us/politics/tennessee-immigration-school-vouchers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.tk4.4kju.uitoXYwbUiV6&smid=url-share
https://www.utires.com/articles/tires-made-usa-american-foreign-brands/#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20there%20are%20only,Continental%2C%20Bridgestone%2C%20and%20Yokohama.
As you can see from the list below, they have four factories in China.
Idk if thats a factor
Just asking.
a once great nation, corrupted by a dictator, only to become a shadow of its former self.
I would say more jack and bean
Their 12 year sour mash punches almost 2x higher than its price point.
But despite growing up in maga country, I only discovered it when I moved to the west coast
Never had Nikolai or KT
😂
finding laughter where I can these days
Tariffs mean more out of their pockets ain't mathing with them fuckers.
And scared politicians with no spine that like power and paycheck.
He will blame some convenient minority and turn his deluded followers on them
and we know where that road ends
Fascism thrives during economic turmoil. Look at every losing European nation after World War 1.
And I get laughed at. So am I bitter- yes. I am. I won't be ruined. They will. I'm educated. They are not. I'll go full blast.
👉 Musk wants to be the 1st trillionaire.
But Brexit resulted in a complete decline of the UK economy, even now 5 years after leaving the EU
The US economy is 27 trillion every year.
The world gdp is 105 trillion.
The US economy shrunk by 25% during the depression
People have this weird concept that billionaires are somehow super smart, when really they are just good at manipulation.
Yeah it’d be dumb, but they’ll do it.
at the rate Dear Leader is throwing people out of work, I don't see where that demand will come from. it's not like any of us will be reimbursed for our losses
Doing it over a weekend tends to lessen the impact.
If they really wanted to tank the market they'd do it at the beginning of the week.
Who was it that said to never ascribe to foul play that which can be explained by incompetence?
... the just sat there resound in their nationalism.
No hope friend.
Members supported her over DJT.
Libs abandoned workers far before the opposite occurred.
Saying the pain DJT causes is karmic is sick + why liberalism always fails and leads to fascism.
Ever hear of coalitions? Are you trying to make sure no one without a degree votes D ever?
I’ve shared your thoughts at times though
They’ll find out… but millions of people who had nothing to do with the Cheeto Bandito will also suffer.
The sad thing is, decent, intelligent, hardworking people suffer too.
convinced that the assassination attempt was a setup to make the felon look brave: Collateral damage of any kind is irrelevant to him. I think he cheated too, but that's another rant.
That is the important issue...
It is what happens when you elect a narcissistic moron...
Strap yourself in…this ride is about to jump the rails.
Matt Gaetz district his voters kept on re electing him so,
Eat chance might be the upstate NY one.
Hope you don't have any young daughters.
Wake up people.
He spends his time and money working on his face and doing bidding for the orange terd. Does he help anybody in his district
#Revolution
Only two ways out of this efn mess we allowed to happen
A work strike and/or a purchase strike might be our best option.
As are Marc & Rachel~
I’m in MI
North of Detroit is Howell-well known for their KKK presence
And known militia groups in the more rural northern areas
This is our state capital during height of covid whining about the shut downs
Their ignorance is dangerous
#StableGeniuses
https://www.goodsuniteus.com/
Elections haven’t been fair for decades w/GOP gerrymandering—voter suppression—foreign adversarial assistance that has been ignored
#Republicans are Enemies Of The State
ALL OF THEM SUPPORTED PROTECTED A FELON FOR POTUS
Most of them voted for the Cheeto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_plants_in_the_United_States
Yup, all in the plan.
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=QmdHDLTBtS9Obb7H
None of this is happening by accident.