The plan is that at least 8 Ds vote *for* cloture, then offer amendments to "improve" the CR which will fail, then cast a meaningless vote against the CR.
Why is it meaningless? Democratic Senators cannot let this bill pass unless changes are made. Dems must be public about wanting to pass CR! If Pubs want to pass it also, they must pass changes. Don't back down and repeat over & over "We will vote for CR if .... we do not want govt shutdown!"
Sure. Schumer thinks Dem voters are as stupid as MAGAs, that they will feel good that Dems voted against the bill that they helped across the finish line by voting for cloture. Are Dem voters that stupid? Is Schumer right? He has to be thinking "hey, they made me leader, they have to be stupid."
Hey @chuckschumer.com, I am never going to give another dime to Democrats ever again in my life if you do this. I am unlikely to vote for a Democrat ever again unless they commit to kicking you out.
Why bother voting for a Democrat? You're just a more polite and weaker republican.
I'll join all y'all in saying the same thing to @chuckschumer.com.
Vote for it be primaried out period.
Full stop
No money
No door to door
No phone banking
Nota, nothing, zip, zilch
Comprende?
Senate Democrats like @vanhollen.senate.gov are now trying to weasel out of filibustering the DOGE funding bill, by negotiating for show votes on alternatives Ds know will fail in return for dropping the filibuster.
Point out to senators like @chuckschumer.com @schumer.senate.gov that their paid protection for Netanyahu's fascism appears to be controlling their surrender to it here at home.
How do you give more power to the executive than saying "yes sir mister executive we will once again fast track your actions that blast away at any future ability we have to check your power"
Thanks for “liking” my little rant. I only have 67 followers so there’s not much of a risk of me dethroning the ineffectual @schumer.senate.gov but at least you and I think he “needs to go”
Maybe if each of us can convince 10 people and they convince 10 people, and so on, the prick will resign. 🤷♂️
We'll primary every one of the @democrats.senate.gov just like we will primary @golden.house.gov for his betrayal of America for voting for the CR. This aggression will not stand.
For once in your Sen Leader lifetime, put away the Polite Professorial Playbook.
This "vote yes on the cloture" means ZIP to the majority of D voters. Many have no idea about the process- & won't even google "cloture" to understand.
OMG that is exactly what they said about the Laken Riley bill and then it got WORSE and then Trump made the signing of that abhorrent bill the time to reveal his immigrant camp at GITMO. Can the bill and make the GOP pass something good for this country!
Same. I have voted for every democratic presidential nominee since McGovern in 1972, and would never vote for a republican. But things are so unstable now, and we’re on the edge of a precipice. We’re in uncharted territory.
I think at this point anyone who votes for this is actively a traitor to the United States. I don't have much hope for justice but when the J6 faction of MAGA finally figures out they've been duped, I won't shed a tear at the violence they unleash towards these people.
I'm a blue state Dem who's never held a gun in my life. I would be beyond useless storming the Capital. I agree though, we do outnumber them, but it seems a lot of us are just as feckless and cowardly as those in Congress. I've been pushing for people who owe Fed taxes to stop paying them, stop
Yeah, I truly don’t get it. What advisors are telling D senators to do this? This can’t be popular with the base. I know everyone here hates the Pod Save bros, but the perception is they appeal to mealy-mouthed centrists (I feel differently but not arguing that now) and they aren’t pushing for this.
I’m a centrist by almost any measure (well up to 2017 anyway). I’m enraged they might give Trump his 8 votes. There is no point to an opposition party that won’t oppose.
I definitely respect that instinct cuz it’s almost always the answer, but considering the way things are, why would corporations even bother putting money into Democrats with no political power right now? During campaign season, sure, but now? (I’m not really arguing, mostly just thinking out loud.)
I guess my point is, the polling cannot possibly be showing democratic voters are clamoring for bipartisanship, right? This feels just flat-out self-defeating and indefensible.
I think a lot of would-be Republicans do run as Democrats because they live in areas where Republicans have no chance to be elected. What sucks is when Democrat voters fall for it.
@slotkin.senate.gov @peters.senate.gov
As your constituent, please do not vote for the end of democracy. It's amazing that we have to plead with your party to use the little bit of power you have, but here we are.
I called my Senators and pushed for NO votes. But the vote itself cannot be the messaging!! You gotta nail the message so people don't get confused about who's shutting down their services. SSA may soon crash in some way and they'll blame it on Dems.
Hey @schumer.senate.gov …any thoughts as to how DC residents survive this disastrous CR as we wait for you to finally wake up to the destruction of our democracy? Because if you vote for this, you are complicit.
60 votes are needed to pass the CR, aren't they? If 8 Ds vote for cloture, the bill comes up for a vote, and if they then all vote "nay" the bill fails, doesn't it?
They’re doing that because they’re traitors working for the bad guys. They’re more than welcome to prove me wrong by not doing this but I think you’ll find that I’m not wrong. They’re traitors. We should treat them that way.
I mean, do they really think this cute deceit is going to trick anyone? And especially their base? This is pathetic Beltway brain at its worst. A true betrayal of the Democratic Party.
@schumer.senate.gov you and the Senate dems are on the wrong side if this. MAGA may not care if their leaders shit on them but Dem voters DO. And we don’t forget. Stop this madness or your boring speeches are just a waste of time. Grow a spine and some balls or YOU are an accomplice.
OMG. They’ve fully given up. We’re going to need a full slate of new legislators to get out this. I simply cannot fathom what they believe they’re going achieve with this move.
So if I understand it correctly they're voting to end debate and call a vote on the CR, but then vote no on the CR (which will cause it to fail and shut down the government?)
I suppose it makes sense that they 'tried' to change it before voting it down, but meh...
they'll vote to call a vote, try and add amendments, the amendments will fail, then they'll vote no, the Republicans will vote yes, the Republicans will win, and it will pass. the Dems could hold it up by voting no on cloture
@schumer.senate.gov is absolutely useless. This is a goddamned coup and you are handing over the keys. Fuck, man, if I saw you right now I’d throw some of those goddamned eggs you love to blather one about at your motherfucking stupid ass face!
Always wondered how the Enabling Acts could be passed in 1933, turns out it's actually quite easy if you have a bunch of enablers in the legislature and all the actual leftists marginalized or worse.
Oh for Pete's sake! Is the Schumer plan idiotic? Yes. But he's been doing idiotic things since he somehow became leader. There is no comparison to the Enabling Act. As for marginalized leftists, they marginalize themselves every time.
This is ridiculous. The only plan is to vote against it. This budget bill will hurt actual people. If Democrats vote for it then it will pass. There will be no fixing it. Never concede to fascism.
Somebody should tell him that we were tipped off! It is a NO vote for cloture and the bill! We see you @schumer.senate.gov!
playing games with Medicaid and democracy! Not good! We are done with this nonsense. Stand up for us. Thank you.
Can you clarify a bit?
Is he whipping votes for cloture or for the bill itself? I know they’re functionally the same thing. Just trying to get a sense of the degree of brain-rot happening here.
Whipping for cloture is whipping for the vote. Once it gets cloture, it passes. All Ds know this. Schumer is helping to pass this and light the match that burns the rest of the Constitution.
That’s my question. Just struggling to understand if he’s willing to sabotage the party and country because he’s a feckless ass or if it’s some master move I just can’t see.
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VOTE NO on cloture, then NO on the horrific CR. “Just say NO”.
Vote no. 👀
If Democrats vote for cloture, then the GOP only need 51 votes to push through the CR.
If Democrats don't vote for cloture, then the GOP needs 60 votes.
The Democrats are helping the GOP. They don't give a shit about "changes" to the CR.
cc @schumer.senate.gov
Going to fucking snap
Why bother voting for a Democrat? You're just a more polite and weaker republican.
Vote for it be primaried out period.
Full stop
No money
No door to door
No phone banking
Nota, nothing, zip, zilch
Comprende?
https://bsky.app/profile/climatebrad.hillheat.com/post/3lk77jesoq222
This is documented criminal activity... and they're all turning a blind eye?
https://bsky.app/profile/karmenk19.bsky.social/post/3ljxyz7ytd222
Uphold the Oath or Prison.
https://hillheat.news/subcribe
Funny how you seem to have an agenda here.
Fantastic.
AOC: PRIMARY HIM
He needs to resign
He’s a danger to democracy in America
Maybe if each of us can convince 10 people and they convince 10 people, and so on, the prick will resign. 🤷♂️
They should just say that so we can start throwing tomatoes at them.
Bricks, at the right angle, can be both things.
We.
Are.
So.
Screwed.
if this is the *plan* he deserves every ounce of hate and primary that is available
#primarySchumer
Just like Trump following the Lieberman's lead before he died by bashing Schumer to keep him in line like with the others paid to protect Netanyahu.
https://bsky.app/profile/climatebrad.hillheat.com/post/3lk73oojn2k22
For once in your Sen Leader lifetime, put away the Polite Professorial Playbook.
This "vote yes on the cloture" means ZIP to the majority of D voters. Many have no idea about the process- & won't even google "cloture" to understand.
#JustSayNoDems
These people treat us like we are jokes.
As your constituent, please do not vote for the end of democracy. It's amazing that we have to plead with your party to use the little bit of power you have, but here we are.
We are completely screwed. The Ds are too weak & too entrenched in Washington think to save themselves or the country.
The fucking Washington Generals of parties.
The only two things wrong with this are everything about it and everyone who believes in it.
When you understand that, it makes sense.
This is why we need to stop voting for people who take corporate money.
I suppose it makes sense that they 'tried' to change it before voting it down, but meh...
performative opposition
it is so repulsive and deceitful
@schumer.senate.gov needs to retire he is a useless feckless fool
resign now
Seriously, fuck this shit.
This isn't a plan, it's surrender.
playing games with Medicaid and democracy! Not good! We are done with this nonsense. Stand up for us. Thank you.
Is he whipping votes for cloture or for the bill itself? I know they’re functionally the same thing. Just trying to get a sense of the degree of brain-rot happening here.