Bleak.
“Why did I personally do it now? I needed to cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took,” Sergeant Livelsberger said in one of the notes, according to the police.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
“Why did I personally do it now? I needed to cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took,” Sergeant Livelsberger said in one of the notes, according to the police.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-are-publications-sugar-coating-livilsbergers-political-minifestos
Funny he rants against the 1% but supports Mux.
The very simple fact is that there is a lot of mal-training in the military which is grounded in these types of false beliefs. 1/
And this is the end result of such indoctrination
The path of extremism always ends in violence, there is no other way.
There are other #Substack projects - these are just off the top of my head.
And- Perhaps we should not expect a coherent ideology from a suicide bomber with PTSD. As a manifesto, I’d rate it 2 out 5 on the Luigi scale.
I wonder when people do the hand ringing about democratic outreach they never mentioned that Fox News and like stations are on every single television across this country
every waiting room every break room every bar and restaurant
Besides that, I feel like that is an assertion that sounds correct but cries out for some sort of evidence citation.
In this case as a very volatile mix
Paying attention to that unstable coexistence is not pleasant and maybe news outlets are unwilling to present it to viewers/readers
“We are masters of our judgment because we are masters of our attention”
They are the least masc men I have ever seen. Toxic males not masculine in the least.
Hint hint.
#MediaMadness
So sorry about the people hurt by a rapid dog.
This pain is not new. I had a friend, a pilot, soldier, civilian who was still going to counseling 20+ years after his service ended. He was haunted by some of the things he did. He once remarked that he just wanted the Army to help him get back to the person he was before.
Accountability.
It's heartbreaking to read that he felt he couldn't get help.
The mental torture of having taken a human lives dogs you forever.
In any case, if you're going to murder yourself, why would this matter?? I do agree he was troubled.
It's brainwashing our troops with a false perception of the Country & completely demoralizing them, after they sacrificed everything for this country they're told its a shithole country & a garbage can as per Trump.🇺🇸💔
This spiraled past that to the point that most military already see in a Verhoeven "Starship Troopers" way.
Didn’t he vote for Trump?
Didn’t Trump win?
So wasn’t he part of the problem?
Fuck off. You're in denial.
My resentment for you and those like you, desperate to whitewash the state of this decaying empire, is entirely justified.
The article mentioned the guy who shot himself and blew up his Tesla in Vegas left a message distraught with America’s decline. He was also a Trump “true believer”.
When I linked those, you said I am in denial. Why?
Seriously, why?
Just so I know what aspects I’m in denial about, is it that somebody who gets told everyday, from multiple sources that America is going down the toilet, and doesn’t hear opposing opinions, could end up believing it? Is that my denial?
- a party that denies the problem exists and calls you stupid for your lived experience
and
- a party that acknowledges it, and offers solutions that won't work
They will choose the latter.
Many people voting against Trump cannot understand how rational grown-ups could support such a deplorable person. Fraud, rape, racism & hate.
Trump supporters however either like what he stands for OR think it’s all just noise and prefer to believe he has a plan.
What party is that? The republicans tapped into economic anxiety’s people are experiencing due to greed of the owners and their response is to give them a tax break. They’re training the leopard’s to eat their faces.
/ 'Economy is greaaaat' - dems
https://www.stephensemler.com/p/homelessness-hits-record-high-white
https://bsky.app/profile/anarchotokonoko.bsky.social/post/3lewvinl7rk2h
😭😂😭😂
💀💀💀💀
If a collapse is coming it will be due to them and Bystanders R Us all across this land.
God forbid we blame the people who vote for aggressive assholes and work every day to accelerate our cultural implosion.
I'm not in your demographic.
https://youtu.be/i0tR4Ejd59M?feature=shared
People suffering with combat related PTSD can become paranoid and deluded to an extent that they lose sight completely of what is real and what is right.
These days much milder trauma is often classified as PTSD. The effects are similar but much less severe.
“Livelsberger also held no animosity toward President-elect Donald Trump, Evans said.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna186182
When people said there was "no future" in England, they wrote punk rock instead...
It creates death
It creates horribly maimed people
It creates mental illnesses ripe for explosion
Only one of these is paramount in the U.S.
So, he woke up as his wife was divorcing him and realized that Trump (who belittles the military daily) is going to ruin this country…then he torches his Musk Cybertruck in front of Trump’s hotel…
As opposed to...
He left his family to protect ours.
He was clearly a victim of the Fox Psy-Op.
Yes, he supported a man who most of us wouldn’t piss on if he was on fire and took his own life because of that same son-of-a-bitch but…I still feel bad for the guy.
So many are lost.
as soon as you can't produce you're thrown out.
We HAVE to get universal health care in this fucking country.
It’s my understanding tricare is better than private insurance
Bullshit
But aside from that he was active duty - VA doesn’t play into that. His Army medical access did
Unfortunately a lot of SF soldiers are reluctant to go that route because they fear losing their security clearance and their very specialized jobs.
Not saying mental health services aren't important, but that it's a band-aid to the real problem.
Well, stick me in the hospital then, I saw the collapse starting when tRump won the GOP nomination in 2016.
And no, I don’t know the difference between a gun or revolver. I’m European by birth.
It's a cultural issue. You get ostracized or even have your career derailed in the military if you get mental health care.
Sad. What's sadder is that it's been going for millennia and we still haven't, a societal level, figured it out.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/moral-injury
Just like they must learn that rights have to fought for and defended, or they will be taken away.
While I fully support Ukraine's defense (& despise Putin) I cannot celebrate the Russian deaths in their meat wave attacks. The toll on the families of the injured, dead AND the survivors will be horrendous.
Where I sit, people seem to be able to say anything they want publicly with no consequences
We are all connected, regardless of what nationalists say.
Men, please open your hearts to your brothers. Please don't live in isolation.
- Christian USN Veteran
#USN #Veteran #USMC #ARMY
The emotional pressure, grief, sadness...and myriads of other emotions... he was having to live with, is unfathomable for me.
Society failed someone who put his life on the line to defend our rights.
I'm lightning a candle for this man.
Old enough to remember how Vietnam vets were treated. Young enough to watch friends become them.
20 years on we have a cohort of traumatized folks just ending their service and losing the structure it gave their lives. It's going to be bad.
He died promoting the MAGA lies that oligarchs have our best interest at heart.
In one note shared by the police, Sergeant Livelsberger said that people should “try peaceful means first but be prepared to fight” to get Democrats out of the federal government.
He died glorifying Trump. He killed himself for Trump.
It's obvious they're talking out of their ass, the gun lobby leads them around by the wallet.
“Why did I do it?
Because I watch Fox News 24/7”
If you didn’t read his hypocritical scribbling, you would think that he was not a Trump supporter by the act
Blowing up a Tesla in front of Trump hotel tells us exactly what
Never underestimate the stupidity of an American
He’s a Fox News zombie
I agree he didn’t want to harm fellow Americans and that’s why he didn’t.
( yes some of the guys are gals, guys is generic for both sexes)
Especially for the ones with ptsd.
You know the orange terror doesn't care about these people.
Expect it to get worse.
It's insidious & damaging to *brainwash* People to believe that our Country is not worth the sacrifice, bc its a garbage dump & weak & dying empire (like Russians describe America), just to hit Dems & get votes.
https://bsky.app/profile/msderohanes.bsky.social/post/3leuqukkrjc2h
Don't you think that might be kinda important, actually?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-are-publications-sugar-coating-livilsbergers-political-minifestos
Afghanistan, Iraq, & Africa has left America with a large number of veterans seeking the same...
"What's past is prologue"
~The Tempest
He chose his final act to be one of deep symbolic repercussions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk4.I3GY.2q2UOqR-neT6&smid=url-share
https://www.veteranrites.org/
If you don't know that, do your fuckin research, and certainly don't listen to msnbc or any other corporate news outlet. Used to respect you Chris, fuckin joke now.
He chose Trump Hotel and used a Tesla
Could have picked any number of places or vehicles
Could have killed other people if he wanted to
PTSD and mental illness.
Watch all the attacks suddenly stop Jan 6th
Neglect is this country’s middle name
The actual message would likely shine some light on that
There aren't many Q'pers who are disappointed things haven't come true. They believe they've been proven right
I have yet to see any reply showing similar empathy for the MH of the dark muslim (convert) exmilitary New Orleans truck murderer.