Do you have any pragmatic sense at all?!? Get their votes. Their souls are not my concern. Priority is to remove, wipe out, this current administration and its momentum. Who cares if you or I “forgive” them? We’re in a political battle here.
Of course their "souls are not your concern," because you're not a moral or principled person. You're a casual who thinks the votes of bigots, white supremacist, and uninformed voters is good for the party as long as it means "we win."
I'd rather cultivate those already in the party, you simp.
And you’re apparently a fool who thinks that rejecting the votes of people you don’t like has any kind of strategic value. Accepting peoples’ votes without requiring they prove themselves transformed to your liking is not the same as pandering to them nor to whatever shitty values they might harbor.
Y’all are correct but you’re optimists. If farmers, who have been royally fucked by Trump, aren’t speaking out in any numbers, who else is going to switch? For most people the pain isn’t bad enough yet.
Sorry it will never happen to most hard MAGA. They watched FOX pay nearly a billion for lying to them and yet came back for more. Every indignity they suffer under TFG will be blamed on us radical woke liberals and they will eat the hate up like candy. Sadly, I believe it is too late for America.
Absolutely not. He is completely wrong. These people need to know what it is like to hurt and we cannot alleviate that from them. We need to stop fantasizing about people apologizing to us before they actually apologize to us.
We're nearly a decade into Trump's BS. We went through a term of his presidency. We've seen his evil in action. I don't buy the "I didn't think/know he'd do X." I won't scream in their faces, but I will give them a terse "You did know, though. Now what are you going to do to fix this?"
Maybe we can use their changes to steer them to credible news sources. Republicans have been attacking the media for over fifty years. I t is going to take some time to change people’s perception.
I can (reluctantly) give a lot of “on the fence” voters a pass; the group I get most frustrated with is the legacy media. I cannot forgive every outlet who accepted Trump’s lies at face value. They should know better. Republicans have been pulling a bait-and-switch for over 20 years.
The crocodile tears while they cry out “this policy is hurting ME” is not admitting the truth about all the harm. It is still simply the selfishness that got us here in the first place. And as soon as they can they will harm us all again.
Many, many people are going to die because of their willful ignorance. They willfully voted to diminish us all. It is going to be very hard to forget that.
I'm sorry, I'm not emotionally mature enough NOT to primal scream in someone's face if they voted for Trump and now regret it cuz he's targeted them or their loved ones. Someday I hope to be, but rn they'd be lucky not to get a throat punch while they cry about leopards.
75 million of you... When DJT and Elon get rid of food safety, your family will suffer. When you eliminate vaccines, bad things happen. You voted for bad shit in the past and have been protected from the consequences. In time you will feel the brunt of what billionaires have planned for you.
I'm starting to think only caring about things when one is affected.personally is a vulnerability that was carefully cultivated by the authoritarian agenda.
This!!!! There is a *growing supermajority* of people who want safe plane travel, elected government, and their jobs... and we have to be able to work with that supermajority to make things better.
This is a time of great opportunity if we can win instead of be right
It think the best way to think of it is to consider someone who got grifted. Yes, you can say "why did you fall for that" but that isn't helping anyone (including the people who are still being grifted and are afraid to admit it). Better to say "I'm sorry you got grifted, how can we stop it."
My late, much-loved mother, voted for W over Gore (in Florida!) because he seemed more likable. She came to deeply regret it. Lived another 25 years and never voted R again.
One of them is a committed effort to lock them out of being able to effectively participate in politics.
The other is for things to get bad enough, for long enough, that returning things feels to them like they're getting something new, that they didn't have before.
Nope. Would I calmly welcome ex Germans into the fold in 1946?? No. They need to hit bottom. They need consequences for their stupidity so they don’t do it again. Rescuing them is the opposite. They won’t appreciate it. They’ll look back at us like we’re suckers and vote against us again.
Too little, far too late. By the end of the month, Musk will have complete and unchallenged control of the federal government. Once that happens, he'll use the mechanisms of state against opponents. We're at 5 seconds to midnight on the American Democracy clock...and its not clear it can be stopped
Just because the clock strikes midnight, doesn't mean that we're out of time to fix things. It would have been better to have stopped the clock one week, one month, 6 months, one year or longer. But we didn't, so now, we need to galvanize around protecting democracy - not, I told you so.
I've cut ties with any and all Republicans in my life, so this is not a problem. They will not be coming back to me as I've made it clear I consider to be epistemic and moral failures.
I have yet to meet a simple stupid Trump voter. I've met Qanon crazies, anarchocapitalists who call themselves Libertarians, and sincere Christofascists, but none who are just stupid and simply made an oopsie.
Funny how this desire to coddle the feelings of white bigots after they've burned themselves on the stove never has been extended to minorities or folks on the left who were legitimately outraged at the harms committed that were totally out of our control
I still worry that these people will be against Trump as long as they are hurting, but as soon as their personal situations improve, they'll go right back to supporting him
Maybe but our best hope to change the ground game is to welcome them, get them to share why they voted for him and invite them to discuss what is changing their mind? Hopefully we can find a place of common ground to build some bridges…
Yes and no. There have been studies showing that our brains suppress bad memories — supposedly an evolutionary protection mechanism. That lines up with my own experience, where I talk nostalgically about a job or something and my friends are all, “Uh, no, you were totally miserable then.” 1/2
Add in the trauma of the pandemic, and it’s not surprising that many people have forgotten how bad it was. And as @olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social has noted, we have choose to either accept the discipline of our goals or the discipline of our resentments. (2/2)
This assumes that in 3 years and 8 months these people will remember how they felt today and vote intelligently. People like this vote by vibes and feelings, not facts. "I didn't think he would do the things he said he would do" is incredible and I guarantee they'll learn nothing from it.
My Southern Baptist MIL is suddenly in a panic, truly deeply frightened by what Musk-Trump are doing. Says the same is true for her friends ("red state" white church-goers in their 70s and 80s). Eyes are opening..
As well they should be.
I'm sure they will be more unhappy with their SSN being public and their access to medications being decided by the teen hackers who took over Medicare.
Absolutely not. The information was there for all to see. These folks voted for racism, genocide, the destruction of democracy and all the rest. Lives will be lost because of their vote. I’m tired of being nice to foolish people.
Trump CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY said EXACTLY what he was going to do. Yeah, it’s incredibly infuriating that people voted for his policies and then are surprised by his policies.
Yes, be furious at the people who lied to these voters and the media that spread those lies, but we need the voters to turn. Some leapords eating faces is probably needed so people appreciate the lies, but the focus always should always be on how incompetent and cruel the core of MAGA really is.
Rather, they need to live through the experience they have brought upon themselves in order that it not be memory-holed and conveniently forgotten or ignored in the future.
Actions have consequences. Lessons must be learned.
Not for one fucking minute. I don’t want a pound of flesh (which is exactly what THEY want & voted for with their anti-trans, anti-immigrant, anti-woke bloodlust), but I will not forgive or forget or be kind or gracious. They threw my loved ones to the fucking wolves. They get no grace for regrets.
Unless they suggest their former ignorance was our fault and the solution is to be more like them. They gotta bring some regret or contrition or they’ll just put us in the crosshairs when they hear a new sirens song.
Remember those Trump voters and Republicans who said they were done with Trump after he tried to overthrow the election? I wonder who they voted for in November
We're in a battle to save (or restore) democracy. The votes of well-informed, liberal minded voters weren't enough to do that.
It's obvious that the only hope is for low-information Trump voters, and non-voters, to stop voting for people who hurt them (or fail to stop others from hurting them).
My counterpoint is I want a more informed voting public. I don't want to be another a coin-flip away from electing a fascist dictator to power. These regretful voters need to understand the full context of why their decision was harmful and I don't believe coddling them leads to that accountability.
I can't think of another administration, even Nixons, that would have committed the corrupt criminal acts that these two white supremacist fascist are doing right now. Congress would have had an emergency session and voted to have them picked up by U.S Marshalls and jailed. It's stunning.
I might agree but… if these people couldn’t remember the horror of Trump mismanaging covid & trying to overthrow the election, how are they going to remember this in 3 years 7 mos when it is time to vote again?
We don't. Trust (like forgiveness) is something that's earned. Until/unless they earn that trust, we invite them to join the fight only in ways that don't require us to trust they won't betray us again when shit gets tough.
Exactly. They wanna bring some buckets of water to throw on the fire, great, but they don't get access to the firehose until they've proven they won't abuse it.
Many are not unintelligent but ignorant. They genuinely watch no news, read no papers, listen to no podcasts. They get information from co-workers, family, friends third hand from Fox News which doesn't play up the bad parts. Is this great? No. We can yell at them, or point in the right direction.
Agreed. Many are ignorant but not stupid. If they, & ppl around them, rely on Fox for news, they're only getting scripted propaganda bc the facts that paint a 180° picture are deliberately left out, or so selectively edited, ppl are bamboozled. Think "Running Man" movie. Guy imprisoned bc fake news.
Wish I had a better answer. The majority of Americans can not name 3 members of SCOTUS. 3 years into W's term, nearly half of people could not identify Cheney as his VP. And that was a better information environment than we have now.
I don't trust these people. But they are what makes a majority
It would be easier to accept this as a bad choice if this was the first Trump presidency. The fact that they lived through the first disastrous Trump term and somehow thought it would be better the second go round is just unbelievably stupid. Herculean levels of tolerance are needed.
While I know we need to ally with them on some level, but emotionally I’m just not there. I also think that we are overestimating the level of deconstruction. It’s team sport to them. Some will pretzel logic their way even deeper
Like how can we let ppl so fucking stupid ( and there is a lot of them) anywhere near us or our kids. Like a zombie. They will make us dumber for knowing them
Also, this won't stick. Within five minutes of watching whatever the new Fox distraction is, these assholes will be right back on the "own the libs" train and forget all about their "regret". Fuck them. They have shown us who they are.
I will say on the Reconstruction comparison is that we are not likely to have a military occupation of the states unless we have civil war again, which would be a very bad end.
And thus, if democracy is retained, we will likely have to deal with Trump voters, and at least convince some of them.
Here's my worry: there are enough people like this that the Dems *might* (if they do everything right campaign-wise) flip them and squeak through the midterms with a 0.0000001% positive. And without addressing any of their structural/systemic problems that tanked them in 2024. 1/x
And if that happens, they all pat themselves on the back and think they're the smartest boys and the status quo is perfect and millions of non-voters look at them in 2028 and stay home AGAIN and set us up for the third Trump presidency.
Lol. Believe me, my deep judgement of these folks is harsh and bottomless. That said, me yelling will do nothing to change their views. If I can gently help one person to convert, it'll be like a mouse in the wires of MAGA. There's a phrase we should remember: the zeal of the convert.
I think the point is more that if we're going to win in 2026 and 2028, we're going to need at least some of the people who voted for Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024 to come back into the fold.
Absolutely, yes. Use a similar approach, like that in couple's counseling, to navigate a major breach in trust. It doesn't raise defenses, takes ownership, and extends an olive branch. As a state agent & correctional sergeant I often used soft techniques for gaining willing compliance 4🤏🏼 infractions
They told us exactly what they were going to do & they're doing it.
If you were stupid enough to believe something else was happening that's on YOU. Those of us who were paying attention saw the writing on the wall as far back as 2016. Don't infantalize these adults.
Reminds me of Liberated to the Bone about building and bridging connections through healing ourselves and our social relations through honesty and being present.
Fuck this "please coddle me; I'm scared" bullshit.
We have been fighting for our lives for years. But suddenly the people who lack the empathy and common sense that God gave a goat need to be treated like children?
I don’t think it’s appropriate with everyone, because there are many reasons that people voted for Trump, and I won’t limit them to simple black and white judgement.
Pragmatically, with the goal to win, I don’t think it’s strategic or effective
But he didn’t lie to anyone. He said everything he was going to do. These fucks were wearing “dictator on day one” shirts and laughing. Pepperidge Farm remembers.
No he didn’t. He never said things would be better. He said he would make America great again. And the way to do it is this. He was very clear. We all heard him. They thought he’d hurt brown people. I’m not letting bigots “but I didn’t understand” their way back into the fold. Fuck all of them.
But all the same, even now I wake up every day thinking "this can't be happening." I can understand why people didn't believe that he would follow through on everything he said he would because it's ludicrous.
But please don't wait to boycott Amazon. They are removing the ability to download your ebooks on 2/26. Make a backup on PC NOW and cancel prime, cancel audible, don't shop at Whole Foods!
The question for this person is ultimately are they going to follow and speak out on the truth. Or are they just going to let people lie to them again.
Repentance means turning *away* from your sins, after all (not just confessing).
He didn't lie to her though. Even her own story attests to that. She ultimately lied to herself. I hope she questions why she did that and why she didn't take Maya Angelou's advice.
What’s crazy is, he didn’t lie. They just chose to believe their own interpretation of his truth to coddle their own racisms and bigotry. As well as, thinking it would only harm POC and not spin the block on them as well.
The trouble with one as incontinently mendacious as Trump is that it was very easy for voters to pick 'n' mix what they liked & dismiss stuff the nutzo stuff out of hand.
That defence fails, however, when it comes to what was known about Project 2025 plus Musk's track record & promises of hardship.
He didn't lie to them, but the media infrastructure on the right definitely did. My parents get there news from Brierbart 🤬😭. They firmly believed he wouldn't impose tariffs or try to deport immigrants who were just calmly participating in the economy.
You would be absolutely floored at the massive number of people in this country who pay zero attention to politics and just go vote with no information or understanding what they're voting for.
the google searches for "is joe biden running for president" spiked on election day after people didn't see him on their ballots. millions of people literally did not know he wasn't running again.
It may be a radical departure from past norms, but to awaken the plurality from their apathetic political slumber will require a seismic shift in strategy. A public recognition that Trump’s GOP is not fit for office The constitutional crisis is here
#ProtestTheGOP
He gave people just enough of a straw to grasp at that they could convince themselves he didn't really mean the hard-line stuff if that was what they wanted to believe (Project 2025, what's that?) It required a healthy dose of Fox News and motivated reasoning, though.
WE understood what he was saying, but remember…the man speaks in word salads, enabling people to draw their own conclusions even when he says his true intentions out loud. They hear what they want in his word salads while we focus on the worst of what comes out of his mouth.
Yeah, he denied (lied) that he was going to do the Project 2025 manifesto, but they had “Mass Deportations Now!” signs waving at the Republican National Convention.
Partly because many people who perceived that Trump was indeed clear about x y or z also stayed with the comfy heuristic that Trump’s dismissable as stupid
His cognitive failings are real but downstream of his malice
Yes, but also in the media landscapes people who voted for him were in, I don’t think they heard as much of it. They heard Trump go on Rogan and talk calmly about his plans to cool inflation
So damn tired of suffering through these bigot safari pieces that try to get us to *feel the pain* of the innocent defrauded fuckhead Trump voters who wanted just a little bit of fascism as a treat and not the whole entire hog that has consequences for special little snowflakes like themselves.
Or "I understand why you didn't take some of his statements seriously. Some of the things he promised are so bizarre and destructive that it's hard to believe in them even now."
I fully concur, but do you see how your post uses "they"? It's closed. A welcoming formulation will include "we" or "us" to offer an opening... forgiveness.
Sorry, but to hell with forgiveness. They were fine with eliminating vulnerable communities for eggs and gas and only feel a shred of remorse because now their material comfort is imperiled. I'm sick of extending an olive branch to Republican fucks who go right back as soon as they can.
100% with you, but we are facing legit risks. When it's all said and done, you don't have to invite them to dinner. You just need them to start to question MAGA support in their own circles.
Far too many are spreading this kind of BS that those of us with functional brains need to accept the brainwashed & now regretful morons with open & forgiving arms. To which many of us understandably say "F*** that"…
…Without contrition, willingness to accept responsibility, and willingness to do restitution for the massive amount of destruction their actions (Pro-Trump) or inactions (not voting) caused and will cause, simply accepting them back into the fold of decent people guarantees this will happen again…
…So, no - wise people will not simply accept them back.
They have to be willing to admit they f***ed up, possibly the worst f*** up ever for them. Then, they have to be willing to do the hard work of earning the trust back of all those they've wronged.
But they've got a LONG row to hoe.
And it's going to be a lot of not fun for them, likely for a long time.
A price must be paid so the lessons will stick.
Was waiting for those "Ich habe es nicht gewüsst" excuses. Will we see a set of Neurenberg-like trials in a few years time? Provided there will be some sort of USA and a kind of Europe and the world left?
They STILL want the leopards to eat the faces of the people they despise. I'm not going to open my arms to them just because the leopards are starting to circle them too.
I generally agree as long as they were really duped by Trump and not, in fact, being purposely obtuse and now trying to garner sympathy/protection from their choices. There's a lot of grifting in the "I thought the leopard's wouldn't eat MY face" crowd.
Julian is right. The primal scream would have felt so good though. At the end of the day, every hand is needed to turn things around and hoping they have learnt their lesson to pay more attention next time.
("Can you please get the leopard-eating-peoples-faces-party back toward *other* faces and away from mine, please. I am *definitely* someone who learned their lesson; ready to change their ways!")
If only they knew that the guy was already President and had a long record of being awful. I mean, you can’t get through to these people in the long run. When it comes time for our next election, I’m sure she’ll tune out everything else for some nonsense and vote “her gut”.
That’s the thing: he wasn’t an untested candidate. He’d already served a term in which he caused a million deaths by missing the critical window to address COVID. He also picked the court that overturned Roe. Where the fuck was she? She only cares b/c now it might hurt her personal finances.
There’s been over 8 years of recent evidence he’s the worst human being and traitor to this country, let alone the decades of evidence beforehand. There is nothing to be done with these people. She’ll forget about this months from now and vote for further doom again in 2 years
I won't welcome or not welcome them. I won't say a word. What I will do is silently rejoice in every pain they feel. Yeah, we're feeling it too, but every little pain they feel is a personal cerebration. The only bummer is it'll never be painful enough.
No soft kid glove landings for fascists who have been revelling in the ugliest bully and violent white supremacist domination energy for 10 yrs. If they were more cruel than smart it means they'll need to feel some real and fair consequences to learn anything from the damage they've caused
We on the left & the center have been PLEADING with them to wake up, & once again we’re asked to be gracious & empathetic when they suffer consequences.
Of course we will defend them against fascism, but don’t expect us to CODDLE them.
"Seem" infuriating? My community has been terrorized by ICE, the SAVE Act if passed will prob take away my right to vote, RFK Jr has stated he'll take away my bipolar & PTSD meds and ensure I never get treatment for ADHD, Musk will probably take my SSDI and food stamps, and my vet boyfriend's care!
Why are you all intent on learning nothing at all?! America did this after the Civil War. The same people passed down their ideology repackaged as Jim Crow, then Reganomics and the War on Drugs. These people will eventually succeed in killing and/or subjugating you if you keep giving them chances.
I earnestly believe John Wilkes Booth performed the most successful individual direct action for any political movement since the emergence of states with the treaty of Westphalia.
I’m not sure anyone before that eclipses him. And he did it for one of the worst ideologies humans have yet invented.
I don't think many US citizens know enough history to understand Douglass's role in Lincoln freeing ALL the slaves
Nor do they know the lengths people have gone to to continually feed the Lost Cause ideal
Reconstruction was tame compared to what needs to be done if we ever want an equitable country
Sherman was a true progressive in his time. This is what I was referring to, and why he is one of my heroes. He responded to an existential threat against the Union in an aggressive manner, but it was warranted.
I just have to say (I work in public health), it blows my mind that someone who works with adults with disabilities voted for Trump & still supports RFK Jr. Absolutely does not compute. Did this person genuinely not understand that their vote was going to directly harm the people they support?!?!
Then will it finally dawn on them that an unelected foreign national working in a dpt that doesn’t exist, rummaging around in the United States private information system while the orange glob sits on his hands, is as alarming as it is a national security emergancy??
What's extra annoying is that I can't find these types of people on social media, mainly because socmed pushes people into rabid trumpism, it would turn this type of person, fill their information void with shit.
Here's the problem, if you voted for Trump for "low taxes", you have no fucking idea how anything to do with government works, and should never decide anything again. You bottled it, you morons.
it's progress of a sort. Remains to be seen if it can save the country. They've given the keys to the autocracy and now we're all waiting to see if we can get them back.
If they truly "stopped the drugs from coming in," it would grind border commerce and traffic to a standstill, to have to thoroughly search EVERY vehicle. In fact, TX Gov Abbott tried it...briefly..
And that still wouldn’t stop fentanyl or other drugs from coming in, they’d just find another way. The only foolproof way to combat the opioid problem is to give people actual life prospects and hope so that they don’t feel like they have to take drugs to cope with their misery.
These people are so fucking stupid. They can eat shit. I’ll never forgive them or welcome them back. Y’all can do what you want. I ain’t doin’ it. They can eat shit. Did I mention they can eat shit? Well, they can eat shit.
It's as if she thought that Kamala was the "Let's import MORE fentanyl" candidate and made the choice not to vote for her. I just can't even with these people and their idiotic, shallow decision-making.
They are my neighbors. They've been brainwashed and indoctrinated to some absolutely lunatic beliefs. I sincerely think that some of them don't even believe that Democrats are human.
All these types of takes are maddening because they act like Republicans lack agency. No they aren’t too stupid to know better. Just like Republican women would have voted for Kamala if only they weren’t afraid of their husbands. Give me a break.
She was told repeatedly about the hot stove and yet she touched the hot stove and got burnt. Sorry. My sympathy and compassion are reserved for the vulnerable people this administration is targeting.
President Trump didn’t lie to anyone. This is exactly what we voted for.
Democrats have ruled 12 out of the last 16 years, and Americans are overwhelmingly over the far-left nonsense.
"I didn't think he was going to do exactly what he said he was going to do" means I thought his cruelty would be directed only at people I hate. and not affect ME! Cry me a river.
Because he HATES the same people she does, she’s just too weak to say what he says OUT loud. They deserve everything they got coming because he’s only getting started
All of the Christians leaders that proudly supported him and encouraged their congregations to vote for him are going to also answer for their sins.
Pay attention to how the sermons they preach.
It is terribly frustrating, but we have to give them a place to go. We have to welcome the newly awakened. Most of his supporters are just pawns in Trump’s/ the GOP’s game. (We all are in a way.)
Nope. And let me tell you why, these stories about people regretting their votes were all over the place from 2017-2024. These same people when right back and voted for him again.
The way I feel about these people is a hotter hate than I would have for someone that shot my puppy.
The more I see this bullshit, the more I firmly believe that Trump is just some magic genie they put all their hopes and dreams on. And their hopes and dreams are toxic bigotry, so he’s their fairy Nazimother. And their Nazimother isn’t supposed to hurt them!
Not defending that particular woman, but from what I saw before the election, MAGA voters did not believe that Trump was going to implement Project 2025. Thus they refused to heed any warnings about it.
They should have known he would at least attempt to do mass deportations. He bragged about it.
Sure I want to calmly welcome them onboard but it’s gonna take some work, I mean, “dang, I should’ve voted for Kamala” does indeed make me want to primal scream perhaps I’m more suited to staff the re-education camps—calmly, of course.
"I thought he was kidding......about being horrible to most people." Because that's been his M.O. since he stained this country by running? He's a big jokester that extremely Orange-faced guy.
You mean the Orange Shitgibbon didn't actually tell you what his plan was and you assumed incorrectly that you could read his mind, then voted for fascism instead of the person who had clear plans AND warned you he was a fascist?
“I’m thrilled with Trump, he’s done more in less than a month than most presidents have done in their whole term,”
NPR found similar comments in their poll last week. As if action in and of itself is some kind of virtue. They don't realize, Executive Orders are cheap.
They voted for this. This is their mess. Their noses need to be rubbed in it. If you don’t they will vote for it again. They have already. The Democratic Party also needs it. They had 4 years to get him behind bars. The waited till the last minute to try. Stop fucking around. In future get it done
Oh wow yeah thanks for playing with fire for the rest of us. I mean, that would have been nice for you to not vote for the guy talking about being a dictator, dang!
Not sure why. He was pretty clear all through Biden's Administration what he would be doing if he got power again. None of that would have been possible with those people putting a break on him.
It is unsettling that someone responsible for providing life-saving treatment to patients is so spectacularly ignorant about the immigration-fueled “fentanyl crisis.” How hard is it really to read sone actual news and educate yourself?
That’s why Trump said he likes dumb voters. People are easily scammed. Nothing new here, except the scale of it all, esp. via social media. Plus, we have a master manipulator (Elon) in charge of vital systems, and his lazy manipulatee (Trump) giving him carte blanche. Won’t end well for many.
Trump is serious bullshit artist. He has a constant wide ranging stream of bs on a lot of subjects. People believe the bs they like, that aggress with their sometimes racist preconceptions, and discount all the rest. Now they find out his true intensions and the dont like it.
What are we meant to do? Feel sorry for them? They were warned, time and time again. Hopefully, the rising discontent will force people into action, but how much damage, how many lives will be ruined by then?
So many believed that because Trump didnt become a dictator in his first term he wouldn’t do it now. We all knew he’d been restrained by people like Tillerson, Matis and even to a degree Bill Barr. Now he’s surrounded by a bunch of fanatics who have no such impulses
She got played like so many others. Their information sources suck and even with all the information options, red flags and the fact he is an effin felon she voted for him. She probably criticized Kamala’s laugh.
I use the optical character recognition (OCR) on my Android Camera/Gallery app, and it is pretty solid, but it definitely needs a proofread, but there's no retyping often.
Formatting characters sometimes preserve line breaks, but theres quick fixes.
afaik, this is iOS specific, on android it's similar usually from the phone maker or Google [spitting on ground gesture, mutters, 'it's the Gulf of Fucking Mexico' under breath] Lens.
This is a year old almost, but a favorite of mine in the 'verbose category.'
Every single one of these people needs to have some form of mental health evaluation. They're either lying or too stupid to be trusted, he told everyone EXACTLY what he was going to do.
Anyone paying attention to his first term would know he would be brutal and lawless. No sympathy for these idiots
I blame these people for their vote for sure. And in all fairness, almost every major media source gave threw out the "But is he actually serious" line, knowing good and darn well that he was.
These voters are not intelligent, steeped in religion, exist in an echo chamber, and get their news from OAN/Newsmax/Fox. They think that is reality. That is an environment not conducive to critical thinking. They are easily manipulated, and the cost of defection is very high.
Yes! She voted about 2 issues (according to her) and neither of them was SAVING DEMOCRACY. She works in HEALTHCARE and didn't consider Trump's handling of Covid? She is only irked now about her own comcerns. Still not worried about the wholesale destruction of the nation. Not an ally. Never will be.
None of these Trump vote regretters are complaining about ice raids in churches, schools, & courts, or immigrants locked up at Gitmo. Too abstract, too distant, not a personal enough hurt. A smack in the wallet. Don't like that at all.
And they want to "cut waste" & "drain the swamp" until they discover that what NaziCons mean by those terms is, "Anything resembling a tax regardless of its value to society." Then the voters whine when the "waste" is something they need and the "swamp" is their husband's Air Traffic gig.
It's just the "economic anxiety" narrative again. The "fell for it again" award also needs to go to journos giving these people the benefit of the doubt.
this is why it's tricky to ask frustrated trump voters running from the leopards to join and be welcomed by people who saw all this coming. they also need to change their beliefs too. i can't welcome people who realize now that they will lose benefits but who still want to put migrants in gitmo.
My personal feelings on Trump voters is "fuck 'em." I'm not interested in locking arms with people who supported him given his disastrous first presidency, the open bigotry, and the attempted coup.
Maybe the centrist Dems want them, but I think they need to do some personal development first.
yeah, it's a problem. everybody is like, the democrats need to figure out how to reach people. but how can, i, for example, reach someone who was all in for all those things you mention. i don't understand their thought process other than very surface-level "enclaveism"/i got mine feelings. or worse
The regret will stick until mid-terms (if we have them) when GOP christo fascist party will dredge up another steaming pile of lies blaming Obama and Biden etc to rile these voters and they'll fall in line.
I guarantee he will ignore the Constitution and run again in 2028. I fully expect the republican party to go along with it and I won’t be a bit surprised if he’s elected again. Maybe Putin will be his running mate next time.
Except these people deliberately chose to forget that he fomented the January 6th insurrection, like they chose to forget all his first regime's other horrors. And if this last election showed us anything, it's that nobody ever went broke underestimating the short term amnesia of the average voter.
"I didn't know he was going to start raiding places!", she said in response to his constant and unending statements that they would in fact be raiding places.
This is the thing. Someone so easy to change their mind for Harris would also be easy to have their mind changed back. Getting these voters is like catching water in a seive.
I know. That’s when I started to worry. I saw people at my polling station that had no idea how to vote. White 50/60s. They I saw my neighbor who lives with his aunt and picks up scrap mental supplementing his disability I knew we were cooked. He’s not voting for anyone but Trump.
uhhh...it wasn't just Trump who made that clear, it was the entire Republican party. I'll never forget this image from last summer's RNC. Guess we'll now all pay the consequences of huge swaths of the electorate ignoring the literal signs shoved in their faces
Grinning as she publicly advocated for the deportation of the people who hold up our privileged society -- the people who pick our food, slaughter our beef and chickens, build our houses, tend our elderly and our children, take care of our houses and yards --
One of the women in the picture I posted was interviewed to appear in The Century series hosted by Peter Jennings. She discusses what she did as footage of her and it rolls. She is one of the blondes in that photo. She never really apologized or described huge remorse, but she admitted her acts.
Hard to sympathize with ignorance, a choice was made and based on the enormous amount of red flags they still chose to support. I would like to welcome all to the “Find out” stages of their lives.
And those who knew and voted for Kamala get to suffer too. Hope she enjoys government handouts…oh wait - she won’t get those too since we’re “eliminating waste’
Right wing media targets low information and low education voters, is highly manipulative and sophisticated, powered by AI (including FAFO msging). If we ever want to get out of this hell, we have to help these people back to reality.
I honestly hope her husband is terminated and they lose everything. Join the bread line bitch, you voted for this, and you don't get to claim ignorance.
Oh poor Staci. We are all supposed to forgive these assholes for failing to believe the facts and falling for painfully obvious lies mixed in with appeals to their worst instincts and prejudices. Hope it stings Staci. You wished this on everyone else. Enjoy the whirlwind.
If she lives in Omaha, then her district was won by Harris and NE 02 electoral vote went to Harris despite her vote. Hopefully lots of people in districts/states Trump won will learn the same lesson and stop voting for Republicans since they only support Trump’s craziness.
Yeah. Here in the U.K. we’ve had our own ‘didn’t think it meant this’ excuse from people who voted for Brexit.
You can put their original decision down to naïveté but in a year or two’s time, there’ll still be people standing in the wreckage and believing in Trump.
I don't believe a single, fucking, word that comes out of a trump voters mouth. Not one sob story, not one "I didn't realize", nothing. They knew what they were voting for and now they want to act like the victims for being fuckwits and hate breeders.
The white people casting the votes as well are probably the ones that go off on a racist rant in front of their non-white friends and then go "Oh, but not you, you're one of the good ones" and then are shocked whenever they're caught up in the inevitable mess.
It is true, however, you’re gonna need his base to turn on him to get rid of him. As long as republicans in Congress think alienating his base will go bad for them they will sit on their hands.
His base will not turn on him. This is a religion for them. Only what he says is true. Watch this turn to the economy being great happen right in your face.
How many said he messed up on Jan 6th and then turned right around and endorsed him. Those people are gone.
People from his base have already started to turn. Regretting their vote is the first step. I’m not saying you have to be friends but you’re gonna need the ones who wake up. But sure ride your moral superiority and FAFO attitude even farther down the road to fascism.
Sir, I'm telling you they did this before. A short time ago.
You see what happened? They turned right around and voted for him again. And I will tell you straight up, if VP Harris was a white man Dems would have won.
So, no I'm not playing nice with people that want to hurt others.
I will not be gentle with them. If you’re old enough to vote, you’re old enough to use the internet to research your choices. Rump’s fraud, lying, racism, misogyny, and plans to be a dictator were and are wide open. Feels like saying oh I didn’t know drunk driving was so dangerous after you kill
I'm not buying it. I have a decades-long close friend who was bigtime Trumper. I kept talking abt Proj2025 and warning her & other retirees & Federal Govt workers abt what Felon47 did at the end of his 1st term, which was institute Schedule F. As soon as Biden came in, he terminated Schedule F. 1/
Now, they don't call it Sched F; it's just Mass Lay-Offs or Mass Firings. Ppl I warned, didn't believe me. They were going along with all his bullshit abt high grocery prices & migrants voting, etc. I kept saying we have the best economy on the planet. They loved 47 & no amount of facts was going 2/
to convince them not to vote for Felon. These ppl I'm talking abt are very religious, like church every week religious, but they couldn't see (or, wouldn't accept) his lies, immoralities, indecency, lawlessness (Jan 6, etc). So last week, my friend texted me to suggest a good Hallmark movie 3/
which is what wee used to do before. I had stopped talking to her since Nov5, but I'm sure she's seeing horrors 47 is bestowing to our ex-employer (Govt) & to the country & allies, and she's accepting everything I said abt him & his Proj2025 intentions were true. I didn't respond to her, and won't.
It's absolutely an excuse to talk to me again, but if we resumed the friendship, she will not bring him up or what's happening in Govt & to the country bcz she'll have to hear all my criticisms of him. So, it will be awkward. But the shock & disappointment are too raw, so I just can't talk to her.
Dear Maga voters with remorse. You've been conned. The media was in on it. The guy you voted for lied to you and now he is stealing from you and the only way it will stop is if YOU risk everything to fix it. You broke it, you fix it. "He who saves his country...". You'll be heroes, the lot of ya.
I would have thought the US would have learnt from the disaster of Brexit. Many voted for it not believing it would be actually implemented. Even those Brits living in Europe who as a result of Brexit have had to return back to the UK.
a big part of me assumes this kind of thing is planted to either placate the seething mass of non-trump americans with schadenfreude or as a way to convince democrat politicians to “move right” to try and capture this demographic they’ve been told exists
Interesting that the Journal is publishing a story like this when the Times and Post can't be arsed to do so and the Times is running more stories about Trump supporters in midwestern diners.
Fuck this woman. She voted for a cruel old man, a known convicted felon, pathological liar, racist and misogynist over a former prosecutor. If someone in this country should suffer because of her stupidity it should be her and her family. I'm just all out of fucks to give to these assholes.
So she could look past the blatant racism and misogyny. She was not concerned about the incoherent rambling. And the prior four years he held the office, no problem. Yea go screw bc now we are all gunna suffer the FO phase bc you are an idiot Stacy
I guess she should have paid attention. I guess if her “news” source is fox, she should realize she’s been lied to and should turn it off. Learn from these mistakes
This twat can take a long walk off a short pier. I don't give a rat's ass about what happens to her (or her husband, if he voted GQP too, which he probably did).
In fact, I hope she ends up giving blow jobs in exchange for food.
I am not sure I will ever understand why people continued to believe in the face of zero evidence or credibility that he would do what he “promised” that they liked and also NOT do what he promised that they didn’t like. It’s like he is some kind of blank wish fulfillment canvas
There were plenty of warnings about what he was going to do. People just refused to believe it would affect them. They’re okay with it happening to everyone else, but when it hurts them, then they’re upset.
"I really didn't think he would blah blah blah" BITCH, where have you been? He appointed judges that overturned Roe V Wade, he incited a mob to insurrect the White House to overturn a duly held election. Tell me again how far you thought he WOULDN'T go so I can slap the taste outcha mouth!
I can't believe the person that said if you let me in your house I will suck all of your blood. Kill your whole fam and steal your shit. I really thought the vampire would choose me as it's partner and give me everlasting life.
This is the general problem with a good chunk of people that voted for Trump. They took what he was saying and created their own version for what THEY thought he meant instead of what he actually was saying. Which is a byproduct of the GOP "what he meant was" segments they see on the news.
She “thought” wrong apparently. And now we are all paying the price. But, honestly, I don’t have it in me to hate my fellow Americans even if they are MAGA. I know they were lied to. They didn’t understand what was at stake.
Good. They voted for FOTUS, they deserve the consequences of that. ZERO sympathy for them, and I hope all their lives are ruined forever, just like they wished for on everyone else.
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Your cosign isn't going to change the fact that he wants us to forgive ppl who were duped by bigoted 34-count felon found liable for sexual assault.
I'd rather cultivate those already in the party, you simp.
I'm sure that works w/ the bullies you deal w/. But that's not how politics work.
If u need me to be nice to u for u to not vote for a 34-count felon, you're a lost cause
People have been COERCED into forgiveness before
The Civil War
WWII
Apartheid
Rwandan Genocide
The villains just learn how to refine + better get away with it next time
We've had TWO WHOLE WORLD WARS about this exact thing.
You don't need to be coddled out of your ignorance.
Wake the fuck up.
This is a time of great opportunity if we can win instead of be right
I only see two paths going forward that end well, and neither one is great.
The other is for things to get bad enough, for long enough, that returning things feels to them like they're getting something new, that they didn't have before.
No more.
They heard what they wanted to hear, and assumed only the libs would get hurt.
We can't go back to this in another 4 or 8 years. We need people to stay awake after this crisis has been dealt with...
I'm sure they will be more unhappy with their SSN being public and their access to medications being decided by the teen hackers who took over Medicare.
We should all be more than concerned.
Rather, they need to live through the experience they have brought upon themselves in order that it not be memory-holed and conveniently forgotten or ignored in the future.
Actions have consequences. Lessons must be learned.
It's obvious that the only hope is for low-information Trump voters, and non-voters, to stop voting for people who hurt them (or fail to stop others from hurting them).
Primal screaming in their faces is the progressives’ stock in trade. It’s what they do. To expect anything different is foolish.
And if your reply is that we have no choice, then they are still in control, and fuck that too.
I don't trust these people. But they are what makes a majority
They willfully chose to ignore.
While I know we need to ally with them on some level, but emotionally I’m just not there. I also think that we are overestimating the level of deconstruction. It’s team sport to them. Some will pretzel logic their way even deeper
And thus, if democracy is retained, we will likely have to deal with Trump voters, and at least convince some of them.
There's a lot of gaslighting going on to placate ppl and help those being placated to feel better about it.
Don't try and run from your MAGA bigotry. Own it. Embrace it.
They told us exactly what they were going to do & they're doing it.
If you were stupid enough to believe something else was happening that's on YOU. Those of us who were paying attention saw the writing on the wall as far back as 2016. Don't infantalize these adults.
He didn't lie to them and they loved what he was promising
https://bsky.app/profile/theresaventura.bsky.social/post/3li7zjt36bk2x
https://www.akpress.org/liberated-to-the-bone.html
We have been fighting for our lives for years. But suddenly the people who lack the empathy and common sense that God gave a goat need to be treated like children?
Spare me. Time to grow TF up.
Pragmatically, with the goal to win, I don’t think it’s strategic or effective
https://bsky.app/profile/olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social/post/3lieurzofuk2y
Too many Americans never faced forthright talk, stared at facts and decided to ignore them because they weren't taught critical thinking.
Posing it as "we" helps for a white collar dispute, not for the dismantling of the federal government.
I knew he wasn't lying.
But all the same, even now I wake up every day thinking "this can't be happening." I can understand why people didn't believe that he would follow through on everything he said he would because it's ludicrous.
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More than they deserve.
See how bad I am at this?
Repentance means turning *away* from your sins, after all (not just confessing).
That defence fails, however, when it comes to what was known about Project 2025 plus Musk's track record & promises of hardship.
#ProtestTheGOP
Partly because many people who perceived that Trump was indeed clear about x y or z also stayed with the comfy heuristic that Trump’s dismissable as stupid
His cognitive failings are real but downstream of his malice
...is what they mean to say.
MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN.
Far too many are spreading this kind of BS that those of us with functional brains need to accept the brainwashed & now regretful morons with open & forgiving arms. To which many of us understandably say "F*** that"…
They have to be willing to admit they f***ed up, possibly the worst f*** up ever for them. Then, they have to be willing to do the hard work of earning the trust back of all those they've wronged.
And they have to understand that task…
So, sure - be willing to accept them back.
But they've got a LONG row to hoe.
And it's going to be a lot of not fun for them, likely for a long time.
A price must be paid so the lessons will stick.
https://bsky.app/profile/laney502.bsky.social/post/3lh2xlchxnc2g
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Miss me with the sunshine and butterflies, the holding hands and kumbaya.
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("Can you please get the leopard-eating-peoples-faces-party back toward *other* faces and away from mine, please. I am *definitely* someone who learned their lesson; ready to change their ways!")
There’s been over 8 years of recent evidence he’s the worst human being and traitor to this country, let alone the decades of evidence beforehand. There is nothing to be done with these people. She’ll forget about this months from now and vote for further doom again in 2 years
We on the left & the center have been PLEADING with them to wake up, & once again we’re asked to be gracious & empathetic when they suffer consequences.
Of course we will defend them against fascism, but don’t expect us to CODDLE them.
That's precisely why we are where we are! This keeps happening yet people just go about business as usual la tee da😡
enough. let them have it anyway you want🔥
The US would be so different now
If you think I am kidding - imagine Germany today if there had been no Nuremberg trials & the Nazis paid no price for what they did
I’m not sure anyone before that eclipses him. And he did it for one of the worst ideologies humans have yet invented.
And poof, Reconstruction ended with a bullet, the presidency passed to a Confederate and the seeds of the Lost Cause myth are allowed to flourish.
Nor do they know the lengths people have gone to to continually feed the Lost Cause ideal
Reconstruction was tame compared to what needs to be done if we ever want an equitable country
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman%27s_March_to_the_Sea
Dems need to find a way to disseminate the truth to them.
It's hard to believe this stuff when I see it, because Trump has made his radical stances known on most subjects. This isn't random.
Because he didn't do that the first time. /s
Who are these idiots?
Democrats have ruled 12 out of the last 16 years, and Americans are overwhelmingly over the far-left nonsense.
Okay then, we'll just ignore this shit-ton of evidence connecting him to the ideas and the people planning his first 180 days.
No need to look behind the curtain. He said it's not so. You're desperate to make him look bad.
Just in case they somehow become millionaires tomorrow.
Pay attention to how the sermons they preach.
It's the ones who actively support the current policies who are really scary though.
The way I feel about these people is a hotter hate than I would have for someone that shot my puppy.
They should have known he would at least attempt to do mass deportations. He bragged about it.
OH, YOU THOUGHT?
You mean the Orange Shitgibbon didn't actually tell you what his plan was and you assumed incorrectly that you could read his mind, then voted for fascism instead of the person who had clear plans AND warned you he was a fascist?
YOU DON'T SAY???
We've had TWO WHOLE WORLD WARS about this exact thing.
You don't need to be coddled out of your ignorance.
Wake the fuck up.
NPR found similar comments in their poll last week. As if action in and of itself is some kind of virtue. They don't realize, Executive Orders are cheap.
#cspan #cspanwj
Also them: “I can’t believe he’s doing what he told me he’d do!”
Nurses ESPECIALLY white nurses are the dumbest, most incompetent, psychotic and lazy bitches I've ever met in my life.
I stand on that. They're idiots.
Some of them are nice but it’s usually ones who are more teacher personable
Trump frontstabbed this lady and she should know that she can and should get mad about it and fight these creeps back with us
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This is a year old almost, but a favorite of mine in the 'verbose category.'
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Easy peasey.
Anyone paying attention to his first term would know he would be brutal and lawless. No sympathy for these idiots
I mean he did lie a lot, just not his promise to be a fascist dictator bent on vengence.
Tough. You got what you voted for. Now want what you've got.
She asked "who was pulling the strings the last 4 years". Her way of justifying what Elon is doing.
It will eventually hit her. Can't wait.
Hence why you stopped hearing about it in the news. Now that Trump's president, we're supposed to start considering it a problem again.
These signs weren't subtle.
Maybe the centrist Dems want them, but I think they need to do some personal development first.
Set policy aside: how do you appeal to both groups?
We told your dumb ass and you thought you were smarter than us then, so I don’t have a lot of empathy.
I can't forgive her.
Is SHE going to do all that? ANY of it?
They surely aren’t capable of understanding them.
Will someone please drive a nail into my skull and let the devils out?
#FaceEatingLeopards
* facedesk *
Was it because she was female? Or because she was black?
Or was it both?
You can put their original decision down to naïveté but in a year or two’s time, there’ll still be people standing in the wreckage and believing in Trump.
They’re the really stupid ones.
How many said he messed up on Jan 6th and then turned right around and endorsed him. Those people are gone.
You see what happened? They turned right around and voted for him again. And I will tell you straight up, if VP Harris was a white man Dems would have won.
So, no I'm not playing nice with people that want to hurt others.
That tracks.
B) “Woops, I voted for an oligarchy”
C) Do👏Not👏Vote👏For👏Republicans
In fact, I hope she ends up giving blow jobs in exchange for food.
This dipshit didn’t bother researching -anything-.
Fentanyl is brought in by us.
Reap what you sow, assholes.