Opinion article by Megan McArdle
"The missing context from the Elon Musk salute:
We can't have a functioning democracy if we think our opponents are evil."
Lol if we think our opponents are evil? Like the ones who have been demonizing and performatively calling out anything but regression back to 50s era treatment of women and minorities as work of the devil? Accusing them of child trafficking and other BS? This is ridiculously dense.
Apparently, our opponents can never be evil because everything is always normal and its alarmist to suggest otherwise. Why do some journalists even bother when their words are meaningless?
it's almost like an arms race. they literally become the pitchbot satire of last week. i admire your ability to satire that which is increasingly unintentional self-parody. not easy.
"McArdle has described herself as a 'right-leaning libertarian.'"
lol. lmao even
libertarians are like american liberals on crack, it does not surprise me in the least she falls over herself to protect a nazi if the nazi is a billionaire, all from some faux kumbaya pov to mask the nazi d sucking
Does his election threaten democracy more than the opinions of random people online? Have you framed his election as a threat? Last I remember you were saying Biden should pardon J6ers pre-emptively to "restore civilty." Storming the Capitol strikes me as a bigger threat than calling out a troll.
These people can't be serious. Replace "Elon Musk" with "Josepf Goebbels" and see how sane this editorial sounds. Megan McArdle has her head stuck six feet under the sand.
According to Errol Musk, Elon’s father, Elon had grandparents on both sides who were supporters of the Nazi party, and his mother’s parents moved to South Africa, where Elon grew up, because they supported Apartheid.
His grandfather was probably a member of the broaderbond, fascists and a very strong presence in Pretoria where he grew up. If you want to get under his skin call him a Broederbond.
Of course. People will stop producing and drop out of the system as they did in the 70s after the Nixon affront. We are dropping out here to some extent on BlueSky. As long as we are here, we are depriving them of clicks and eyeballs.
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The missing context is his incestuous groomer daddy outing Elon’s grandparents were Canadian N*zis who emigrated to South Africa bc they liked the cut of Apartheid’s jib.
Well… I have to admit I could see doing a Nazi salute to an asshole boss if given the right prompt. It would mean “fuck you.” But I think it would be clear in context. If I’m wrong I would be embarrassed for eternity. But that’s not what Elon did. He meant it like a Nazi & isn’t even embarrassed.
Yep, and anyone who in whatever unlikely theory accidentally did one would apologize extensively. His reaction fit what he did -- a nazi doing a nazi salute.
Ah, but this is one thing libs know and agree with, which is why they must always argue that no-one they want to allow into the tent of reasonableness and acceptability can possibly be a fascist. 'Fascist' isn't really a list of identifiable traits to them, it just means 'really bad'.
ATTENTION DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS, & THOSE WHO CARE: Talking pundits on MSNBC & CNN explaining the disasters of the Trump administration are not going to do it. We need a nationwide TV ad blitz with respected leaders sounding the alarm on this destruction of our democracy. NOW, before the Midterms.
democrats presumed hillary guilty, i presume them guilty. And thats fine, nazi country nazi party they fit rig in, but id never vote for denocidal maniacs who did all the things i presume them guilty of
the "every queer person is actively trying to groom your children for their sexual pleasure" crowd is suddenly very concerned with how we perceive our political rivals
Theres a ecosystem that pays people to gorble this stuff out. A white ice cream blot out and talks in a total vacuum, separated from all organic life, all spiritual life. A tiny stickman-drawn human existence that talks to other stickmen from their beds.
The idea of electing Nazis is too scary, so they insist it can’t be true.
It’s the same energy as 9/11 truthers who found “19 dudes with Microsoft flight simulator and some box cutters changed the world” too scary and instead insist it was The Plan.
What's she missing is that Musk hasn't denied the assertion. He just keeps trying to claim that the CRITICS are tired or funny. If an innocent person is accused of giving a Hitler salute, you'd expect them to at least say "no, that's not what I was doing."
The missing context is the last decade plus of Elon tweeting Nazi symbolism like 1488 and literally everything he's ever said and done that make it impossible to genuinely wonder if Elon is not a Nazi.
what do you call someone funding far right causes in western democracies, spouting superiority BS on twitter and throwing nazi salutes ? who also happens to be the richest person in the world. Its amazing the lengths people will go to simp for these folks.
By making even the most vile of opinions valid ones to express, and then enforce, they have ensured that the middle ground is still awful for a good deal of people. The average trump supporter will not understand the effects of their voting even as their family members suffer. Hell, even they may...
...suffer due to most people being working class and a good deal of the trump supporters being on things like disability and the like. In these dark times the stars mustn't go out however, we can uplift and defend each other during these trying times.
Ms. McArdle can trace her complaint back to Newt Gingrich. As minority whip, he counseled his caucus to demonize Democrats. They and their wives and children were not to socialize.
The anti-abortion movement has demonized women and doctors.
No, she's a self-described "right leaning libertarian" so I wonder who she is referring to when she says "opposition." That's probably the same as what Musk might describe himself as. It sounds the same as the tech bros political views.
I dunno. If my opponents spout “godliness” while bullying the weakest and condemning bishops begging Jesus’ mercy, if they - like the men of Sodom - insist on terrorizing visiting angels, I think they’re inviting the possibility that a disinterested observer might think them evil.
People who voted for THIS guy suddenly want us to extend a little grace to Musk because he is on the spectrum and "moves awkwardly" when he gets excited? Interesting.
So she doesn’t think someone buying a platform to let Nazi be on it is some kinda evil? He agrees with them. Appears at a far right German rally 💀 believes in white replacement theory. At some point you gotta connect the dots!
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1941-07-01/wave-future
Opinion article by Megan McArdle
"The missing context from the Elon Musk salute:
We can't have a functioning democracy if we think our opponents are evil."
It's just like trump saying Ukraine shouldn't have fought back the evil.
Like a virus, invasions have outcomes, too. Deciding they are good or bad invasions or outcomes is the REAL problem.
Well, maybe if our opponents stopped doing evil shit, we wouldn't think that way.
“Democracy dies if we don’t sanewash the 4chan fascism of MAGA”
lol. lmao even
libertarians are like american liberals on crack, it does not surprise me in the least she falls over herself to protect a nazi if the nazi is a billionaire, all from some faux kumbaya pov to mask the nazi d sucking
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-democrats-enemies-within-rcna175628
Remember! When they go low, we go high!
It's time to put passive on the back burner.
We have a Hitler 2.0 on the world's hands.
THAT is all the context you need.
Nazism was instilled in him from a young age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Broederbond
What if our opponents are evil? Or morality is just relative?
Hire me, NYT
https://bsky.app/profile/themaverickmind.bsky.social/post/3lg3qzy2qb227
Even if you call it “the roman salute” it’s still a fucking nazi salute
Does he goes to church like a gay man ???
Jesus and Peter were lovers and it's jesus who got fuck in the ass.
It's so gay to say I am the son of god or I saw god and he talked to me.
Trump is a gay lord who fucked 13 years old girls.
The pope deserves to be sodomise by a bull while having a ball in the mouth.
Good grief.
In any case, a functioning democracy is out the window, and not because we're calling a Nazi salute what it is.
NO not that wall
The idea of electing Nazis is too scary, so they insist it can’t be true.
It’s the same energy as 9/11 truthers who found “19 dudes with Microsoft flight simulator and some box cutters changed the world” too scary and instead insist it was The Plan.
Doesn't matter who thinks what unless it's to check "what would don like?" before doing something, which might save your life (no guarantees)
just wow
Know what you get when 4 Nazis walk into a bar with a regular person? 5 Nazis
The anti-abortion movement has demonized women and doctors.
No one's point out that after the second sig heil he directly referenced the 14 words.
Go read it.
It's not a dead match, but that's the point of dogwhistles.
(but we still dig ya 😉)