"Hmm people want to stay with a familiar and easy to use OS, let's make them learn about distro wars and Wine prefixes, then get mad on forums when their workflow doesn't match what we want it to be"
"Also we don't even have the forums anymore so if you have a problem you need to join a Discord"
I'll probably pick up regex without too much difficulty, I was writing ModuleManager patches for KSP, which implements "a type of regex" that has been adjusted for the pecularities of KSP's config files (which are all plaintext .cfg files, so MM is really just a giant string concatenator).
also if you want to keep your files, you need to figure out how to format an ext3 partition because windows can't, move your files over to the external, and then move them back to your pc after the install
because no linux distro on the planet plays 100% nice with NTFS or exFAT 🙃
(I spent a full goddamned week trying to copy over files to my steam deck, got hit with Permissions Bullshit due to the sd card being formatted as exFAT, and only fixed it because it turned out I could plug an external into the usb charging port, format the SDcard to ext3, and THEN move the files)
MS: "Why is nobody upgrading to Windows 11 (10) willingly? Why are they sticking to Windows 10 (9)?"
Also MS: "We're introducing features nobody wants and FUCK YOU if you think you can GPO (Enterprise, Professional) them out and/or regedit them (Home, Pro, Enterprise) out because we'll ram it thru"
Whenever I make what looks like a mistake, such as above where I used "are" instead of "our," please understand that I am clearly doing so on purpose to fight the LLMs that are sucking up our data. I am a hero, this is me being a hero, not being careless.
✊😂!!! Let’s have a return to semi-literacy and poetic colloquialisms to stick it to the man! May we all write like the love child of the village idiot and Samuel Beckett.
I think the key point here is that it is limited to local processing, hence the check for hardware that can support it, and the point that very little currently does. I assume that will change as Intel rolls out more support for AI operations on their CPUs.
I'm far from convinced that the data it's collecting will remain local, but even if it is, I absolutely do not want an invasive background process running at all times
It's definitely not about altruism, it's only ever about cost/benefit.
What's relevant here is that there's a big difference between the data stored in the cloud, where they can do anything they want with it, and local data, where you can see if it's being shipped outside of your box.
About the first part, I agree completely. A company like these only exists because of benefits. The people they say they're empowering with their technology weren't never the center of their business.
About the second, it's the idea of all your data stored somewhere what makes me uneasy (+)
Because I keep thinking it could be exploitable in several manners. Should anyone get access to all your locally stored data, what kind of information could they get from you?
Lets remember this technology will record *every* interaction so that it can learn from you to help you.
My thoughts exactly. Sometimes I spend some time reading their privacy terms —for real, I once read Google's—, and it's like, “We all *know* you've violated these very rules several times.”
This new AI idea isn't useful at all, but they're implementing it anyway because they expect a profit.
No argument there. The only reason to consider this as a special case is that the data collection would be public and easy to trace (since anyone can just run Wireshark and see what it's doing).
I do think they learned some lessons from their Workplace Analytics mess, but of course you never know.
This was interesting to read, although the idea of this process being public didn't do much to make me feel better about it. It's like, why has privacy to be an option, and not an inherent right?
That's still a potentially unencrypted second copy of private data with a ton of potential exploits.
We've already seen prompt injection attacks in websites against browser LLM plugins (modifying the user's query about the page in a way that can trigger user data being sent to the malicious page)
So imagine somebody sends a malicious email with hidden adversarial prompts, which automatically sends your personal data off to the sender when you ask for a summary about the email...
Yes, you'd definitely need to protect against those attacks in the normal ways. If we're just talking about indexing data locally and being smart about finding relationships between it then it's no different from other local searches.
No different in the sense that it's just a local process, if they don't in fact upload anything. It sounds like they're going for local search 2.0, using the power of ML to find relationships, allow natural language search, etc. My guess is it will be partly useful and partly a more annoying Clippy.
The bidirectionality is new in that the LLM doesn't have a reliable method to prevent prompt injection (and depending on implementation, no straightforward way to audit API calls). A regular local search tools doesn't automatically respond to contents that way
It's not clear that it's going to be a chatbot, it could just be a natural language search bar that knows everything you did on the machine and drew inferences and relationships between them. Which is a lot, but it's not necessarily going outside for anything, hence the need for the h/w support.
Regedit is only base registry settings. Look into Group and User Policy editing. Yeah, it's likely to get changed back on update as well. But M$ learned real fast about not doing that as much given how Government systems work.
Group policy is rarely active on Home versions, and I don't need Pro that badly. I'm honestly switching to *nix when 10 reaches EOL unless something better comes from MS.
Trying out a Chromebook to see how useful it'll be, and it also lets you run Linux since it's Linux underneath.
(The one I'm getting is a used ARM tablet/laptop off eBay, so it'll be a bit limited.)
My last few Windows machines have been 11, and it's been ok.
Um also, think about how much collective energy (as in kWhs) this is going to waste. GPUs just chugging away while ingesting all of your data all day and forming summaries, connections, etc ... of the most mundane shit you will ask it about <0.01% of the time. Tons of CO2 wasted... for this BS.
i can't believe I'm saying this but this is like one of the few things that would actually make me switch to Linux for personal use. like that is the line
And these tech company mouthpieces are talking it up like it’s a good thing, as if we should trust the sector of the economy that’s done nothing good for the last 10-15 years
It took me 6 months to install a program on my new laptop that makes my job easier literally every single day.
I just did it the long way around instead of spending 5 minutes fixing it.
Idk if this makes me perfectly suited for Linux or if I'd die immediately like a tropical plant in Antarctica.
It's a thin veneer of "this is a feature for you" when actually it's just an implied permission to scrape all your confidential work and personal life for training data for the next LLM.
I read that it was supposed to be a gift to the gods for safe passage when they left, and that they specifically told the Trojans not to touch it, which is the best story, really. Attacking them right at their hubris.
It gets weird because Athena helps the Greeks a lot, particularly with deception, and the Greeks did pretend to leave, so the Trojans brought the horse and they did fiercely debate what to do with it
All of that aside "what was the name of the website I was browsing earlier" is 100% not something it's ever going to be able to answer, no matter how much data it has or how sophisticated it is.
But wouldn't you rather ask Siri "what was that website I was looking at before?" and have her say "Ok, Sarah, I remember earlier when you were looking at a website that was called Google Dot Com earlier in the past."
And not only that, probably not even an "opt out" feature: it'll be one of those things hardwired in with no ability to completely remove, just increasingly convoluted power user-only steps to try to thwart it that will be removed by Microsoft in each new update
“In terms of data protection, this actually ties in with the need for hardware support as the whole idea will be that the processing is done locally – none of you data is shared to the cloud.” Until the 1st malware is developed to send the data to their location. Nope.
I would love to receive a spam email summarizing all the other spam emails I now receive after Google seems to have killed what was once a useful spam filter
I wish I could use this AI to explain to the devs that when I am searching for something, typically I am doing so because I don't want to announce to everyone nearby that I don't know how to do some normal function in excel.
Copilot appeared on my PC with the last WIN11 update. I asked it how to turn it off and followed its instructions (hope it wasn't hallucinating, but I haven't seen it since). **Of course** my hardware isn't AI-compatible, whyever would I want that?
Unfortunately if you uninstall by following it’s directions all it does is hide the icon. It doesn’t actually disable it. Here’s a link to how to actually turn it off (it doesn’t seem possible to completely remove it)
“But Jared, what if we were the ones scraping the hard drive? We can hold people’s stuff ransom if they don’t pay for a service contract! Is it really malware if we build it into the OS?”
Someone writes a few lines of code that causes it to send the data to them and places it in a legit program and they now have all your information without you even knowing.
Actually there's an awful lot of doubting. What is so revolutionary about summarizing the emails that *I've already read* and telling me which websites I visited (hint: it's the same sites that I visit every day)?
I tried to get my desktop working but I couldn't get it to boot to the right ssd, then I tried my laptop which then had the Nvidia driver issue. But it's a razer laptop, and the thing that amazed me was my battery life was like 10x better on Linux 🥰
I’m lost for words. Not just government. As described that would give the security team of the company I work for a complete meltdown. (A large financial service company FWIW).
Yes, and a nightmare for GDPR. Personal data must be securely stored, properly labelled, only used for purposes for which permission has been granted, promptly deleted, etc, etc, etc.
Even unclassified data (especially CUI/PII/PHI) is generally kept in a “govcloud” type of enclave where it does not share infrastructure at MS, etc.. with non-govt or non-DoD customers. You can’t fully trust MS won’t leak that data, but they’re supposed to isloate it per the contract.
When it comes to government, critical is often classified and those systems/networks are absolutely isolated. Airgapped or on networks that do not touch the internet.
I could see some sort of situation where this kind of tech or machine learning could lead to some elegant user experience improvements, BUT that’s only if it was a walled data garden & we could trust this stuff. At this point I don’t trust most corps w AI.
It feels like so many of the companies out there are trying to examine/figure out how they can also make their customers their product, even if they have a ‘classical’ retail biz model. The worst of the most Extractive Capitalism we’ve seen to date 🫠
because they don't think it's useful to you. they think it's useful information to sell to marketers or anyone else looking for that usage information.
I remember reading an article once that said Facebook is a tool to take over for the human labor of social activity the same way, say, a hammer is a tool to take over for the human labor of physical work.
AI seems like a tool to take over for the human labor of actually thinking.
they dont, it's just the fluff function they bullshit us with to prybar in their terminator surveillance engine. Years ago I was screaming about the robot dog and everybody said I was a nutjob because it would be used in "rescues" congrats everybody now there's ones with shotguns and flamethrowers.
It seems like it's micro-targeted towards middle managers where most of their e-mails are like starting points for what they're going to talk about in face-to-face meetings all day. But yeah, I would be constantly stressed that I'm going to reply to someone about something that my AI hallucinated.
They're just gonna start optimizing the marketing emails so they pop up in the summary so everyone starts ignoring the summary and then it turns out nobody uses the summary let's just skip it and not make an email summary
It's more fun to just put the humidifier and dehumidifier next to each other and let 'em fight. Better than the last boxing match I watched, for certain.
Plus they sell you some trash to read your incoming mail and summarize it. Before too long it’s just copilots all the way down, making the key bad decisions for your organization automatically.
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It isn't, but it absolutely could be
So yeah no, it's really really not
Not at allll
"Also we don't even have the forums anymore so if you have a problem you need to join a Discord"
Apple marketing tool
because no linux distro on the planet plays 100% nice with NTFS or exFAT 🙃
Unless I really really need to boot into windows to test something out.
Also MS: "We're introducing features nobody wants and FUCK YOU if you think you can GPO (Enterprise, Professional) them out and/or regedit them (Home, Pro, Enterprise) out because we'll ram it thru"
Huzzah. At least neither of my computers is bleeding-edge.
Data equals money, as illustrated by the fact that Google bases its existence on it.
Why would tech bros implement something that collects your data at all times and not use it? When has capitalism been altruistic?
I'm not feeling optimistic this time.
What's relevant here is that there's a big difference between the data stored in the cloud, where they can do anything they want with it, and local data, where you can see if it's being shipped outside of your box.
About the second, it's the idea of all your data stored somewhere what makes me uneasy (+)
Lets remember this technology will record *every* interaction so that it can learn from you to help you.
This new AI idea isn't useful at all, but they're implementing it anyway because they expect a profit.
I do think they learned some lessons from their Workplace Analytics mess, but of course you never know.
We've already seen prompt injection attacks in websites against browser LLM plugins (modifying the user's query about the page in a way that can trigger user data being sent to the malicious page)
Ultimate or PowerUser - where you can decide what crap gets installed because nothing on 11 is making me want to upgrade my system.
I honestly would pay for basically what I'm calling XP 2025 aka XP with all modern hardware support.
(The one I'm getting is a used ARM tablet/laptop off eBay, so it'll be a bit limited.)
My last few Windows machines have been 11, and it's been ok.
It's going to suck ass.
Yeah there is, this sounds awful. You, under no circumstances, have to hand it to them.
I just did it the long way around instead of spending 5 minutes fixing it.
Idk if this makes me perfectly suited for Linux or if I'd die immediately like a tropical plant in Antarctica.
o_O
I'm like bro......history. you need to open your HISTORY tab for that.
yikes, this is some peak lazy-encouraging
Also, 'you want data protection, you need to buy a bigger rig' is... a strategy, I suppose.
Uh, yeah actually there is plenty of doubting. I alone am providing a great deal of doubting. Like ... just a LOT of doubting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/181o8qm/comment/kub6b14/
who wants this
Actually there's an awful lot of doubting. What is so revolutionary about summarizing the emails that *I've already read* and telling me which websites I visited (hint: it's the same sites that I visit every day)?
no! get away! fuck off! make it stop!
High ranking officials doing dumb things on their personal machines is another matter.
Ps: even without being tied to a security company but working for an AI company I could suggest to have isolated equipment for critical areas.
That seemed pretty optimal.
All of this is straight up trash garbage.
AI seems like a tool to take over for the human labor of actually thinking.
But deliberately.
I’ve seen some indexes generated that way
::shudder::
From, like, the circus or something.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a flamethrower is a good robot dog with a flamethrower. And a shotgun. Which is also for self defense.
I do call these guys The Terminator Twins, though.
thing about a Property Brother, he's got... lifeless eyes; black eyes. Like a doll's eye.
See? Helpful.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/microsoft-bans-u-s-police-departments-azure-openai-facial-recognition/