No no you don't get it, they didn't want politics out of gaming, just any depiction of a person that isn't white and straight, and any woman who doesn't look like a real doll
Art is political. All of it. All art means something. Has a stance. A message. Blah blah. I’m so very over the idea that only straight white messages deserve to be told.
Got damn I hate napkins. Can’t let anyone have nice things ever
As a trans person, it’s become abundantly clear that existence itself is politics. It doesn’t matter if you want nothing to do with politics because politics will have everything to do with you. Everyone. Not just the marginalized. Are you poor? That’s a failing of government, aka a socio-political-
issue. Can’t afford the insane cost of medical care and medication or need an abortion to save your life? Big-pharma and the insurance industry and religion are heavily involved in politics. Want a safe work place and better pay? OSHA, government regulations, min wage, etc are all to thank for not-
being chained to a work desk for table scraps and forced to eat in polluted air. Safe food? That’s government. No one has the luxury of not being involved in politics.
Those fucking losers will never understand. 100% of the issues in their lives are self-inflected, but their egos are too big to blame anything except the next boogieman some right-wing influencer throws at them.
Owning the liberals by crashing the economy. Unrelated now is a GREAT time to go through a backlog of games for reasons totally not due to impending economic disaster!
That was always their play. The "politics" they were screeching about was people existing. They deliberately made sure healthy coexistence was never an option.
They don't want you to enjoy a simple pleasure of food, your video games, enjoying a walk in the park, going to a class--do you get it? This is war on the American people.
I just turn off the ability to communicate with anyone other than my actual friends I know in person. The last straw was back in 2010 . Got tired of being called the n word for just saying hello.
The last online multi I ever played was Modern Warfare 2, cuz they got rid of party chat and I was like "this is awful and probably just going to get worse!" and never looked back.
I never tried online games because I gamed as a kid to reach places far away from the complexity of real people. The idea of playing with a stranger ignited my 90s kid stranger danger alarms.
Only if you listen to any of it. Assassin’s Creed seems to be doing well and has plenty of players enjoying it, in spite of the bullshit. Most of the noise online is just that. Comment sections are not real life.
The ironic thing is that Bethesda games, up until a couple years ago, had Trump involvement too - Robert Trump was on the board of directors for the parent company.
More I think about it, gaming industry dying would be fine for me.
I have a gigantic backlog of games I have bought yet never played.
Might give me a chance to stop buying "just because" and actually play games.
They can say it. But they're gonna be called out on it. It's such a WILD volume of privelage. Lack of awareness. Etc. But they'll find no echo chamber for that shit here.
Found her. Wild when women vote against their own interests but also not sure if she's old enough to actually vote? The replies flaming her into the sun are a mix of thorough and succinct. #booktok doing the good work. 🖤
You might be right. I don't know, when I was in college I still looked 14 so I try not to judge people by looks. The fact she left the video up is wild though. Talk about a glutton for punishment.
In an age where anyone can post any old lie online and the only hierarchy of information is who can pay the most for Google ads, where Amazon can decide to 'unpublish' any book and it'll be removed from your kindle even if you've paid for it, traditional publishing is more political than ever.
This is the flaw with conservatism, the movement always focuses more on resisting change over "conserving" things, and inevitably destroys what the claim to hold dear.
I've heard some of the most vile political rants come from 'non-political' people. It's like, ok, so when you say you're not political, are you trying to convince me or yourself?
As much as everyone wants to make any thought political because we've utterly lost what the meaning of "politics" actually is, keeping it out of anything is literally impossible, someone will make some innocuous shit into some "political" nonsense eventually.
Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of Final Fantasy, has adamantly stated on multiple occasions that video games, and other forms of art in general, must make a political statement.
And that is his opinion and also what he chooses to inherently do with his games. It wouldn't be difficult to find many many examples of games that you'd have to bend in half to the point of becoming a singularity in order to politicize them.
C'mon Man, burden of proof is on you. You say that "It wouldn't be difficult to find many many examples," and then provide exactly 0. Have enough confidence in your argument to defend it with more than anecdotes, or don't state your opinion as fact.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Has been ever since GamerGate. Many of the people in the Burger and Fries chat log fear that politics in gaming would lead to a stand alone complex. Ironically they have become the complex they dreaded.
Oh it's the $20 bill post my bad babe
My favorite is Schroedinger's Makeup: simultaneously a vital hygienic component of the professional wardrobe, and the hallmark of a dirty [redacted] depending on what happens in a man's pants when he looks at her.
I'm not sure how anyone could keep politics out of gaming. Gaming is interactive art, and humans have always used art to interact with life. That's like saying keep politics out of life. I would if I could lol, but my gaming budget is tied to if I have enough to eat, and that's tied to politics too
A lot of people think they CAN avoid politics in life. It's a function of privilege and ignorance to just ignore what shapes the world around them and not have the political violently make itself known -- at least before now.
Oh loom a loser with zero followers ans no other posts has graces us with a post so brave they couldn't use their really account to post it. Stay brave, maga warrior 😂🤣
Dash must think the erosion of thge stock market, along with retirement funds, and investments is okay as long as he thinks gaming is the critical issue we face.
Ain't nobody outright owning anything in this new economy. The Left has been charged to a credit card. The Left has been placed on layaway. The Left has been hungrily eyed by a window shopper through the locked display case at Target and there aren't enough employees to find the key.
Look, the Switch 2 may cost more than my rent now and every game will be $100+, but at least I don't gotta worry about no Aloy's lip hair, or Abby's muscles! They might shatter my fragile masculinity.
Everything is political. "Keep politics out of gaming" people have always been fundamentally wrong. Everything is shaped by society and politics. Everything can influence society and politics. Games too, whether the devs want to or not.
From my understanding it essentially means that everything that people do is based on the environment around them and their previous experiences which extends to their art but the statement is worded in a way that is intentionally provocative I could be misunderstanding it though
literally all "fast car" games feeds on masculine tropes of "little boy needs to play with car and must dream of owning a 8 digit price car, also endangerement is cool, go fast or go home to be a cool guy"
would you buy the game if it was renault Clio instead ? if you had to abide by speed limits ?
Dont be fucking dumb, when people say stuff like politics out of the game, you guys just want to be stupid bigots. literally everything exists within a political, societal, economical,... environnement, and only fucking idiots think games "shouldnt be political" because literally everything is.
Go on if you are so smart and fuckall, tell the class how a game can be devoid of any political/societal/..context when your car game uses real car brand that all have in of itself, a deep root in luxury market/capitalism, go on if you're so smart!
Or just stfu and stop crying about nons in game
A game is made in a specific context, shaped by the world around it. It is questionable whether we would have as many car games if cars weren't as prominent in modern society. Would it be the same if oil lobbies weren't as powerful in us politics? What if us cities were designed to be walkable?
If there were more of a global backlash against racing motorsport for its emissions, would car racing games still be considered cool? Different society, different politics, could mean different games
"All media is made in a particular social and political context and that affects it" is not the same as "all media contains explicitly political messages and themes"
It's stupid to muddle the two.
That being said, I give zero benefit of the doubt to most of the "no politics in muh games" crowd.
Those people mostly just want to bitch and moan about women and minorities existing and appearing in their favorite media, which they take as a personal affront because they are racist, sexist manchildren.
Fair analysis of sociopolitical themes in media is far, far above their intellectual level.
Sure man. Car culture as depicted in Asphalt is associated with masculinity and self-reliance, something propagated by car companies through advertising and popular media. The specific name of it also reflects an obsession with being the best, "a legend," and part of the homosocial act of racing.
The more industries that get fucked up, the more I hope people will realize this is the most dog shit administration. Of course, the damage to my perception of average American intelligence is irreparable ever since people were convinced the felon was a good idea.
The "y'all are a bunch of snowflakes" and "facts over feelings crowd" get all up their feelings when you present them with facts like a bunch of snowflakes
It's almost like choosing to stay away from politics makes someone more likely to support stupid policies out of sheer ignorance of how those policies work and affect the world around them...
There are two races: white and political.
There are two sexual orientations: straight and political.
There are two genders: male and political.
There are two gender identities: cis and political.
So fcking stupid. They shouldn’t even be allowed to communicate with intelligent life until they check back in to reality. And ofc I don’t really mean that. But jeez Louise. Stfu sometimes, why don’t ya?
Politics isn't everything you know? Sometimes I just want to play a video game, not talk about politics 🙄 I literally never want to talk about politics because it's the most boring subject on the planet and everyone who talks about it seems suuuuuuper f'd up and angry
"it's the most boring subject on the planet"
I think you might just be a little dumb, and maybe incredibly privileged based on this post
Why did you even comment when this post is explicitly about politics honestly?
You seem like the type who really wants to make sure people know you don't care about anything that matters lmao
I think my initial estimate was spot on
Yeah about a thing you specifically said you never want to talk about lmao, just fine it really odd you'd go into a thread about something you don't ever want to talk about so you could talk about it
That seems dumb
When they refer to keeping politics out of games, they don’t mean literally - they’re referring to diversity and equity in gaming. To these incels, inclusion of strong non-sexualised female, LGBTQIA+ or non-white characters is ‘political’.
They want to rewrite history because they are ashamed and they don’t want to feel that shame during their escapism.
They made their bed. Now they can lie in it.
If you live in a society, everything’s got the ability to be political. And you don’t think our politics will affect you, but that’s what everyone says. And before you know it, you’re in an authoritarian government. Don’t be blindfolded or complacent. You don’t have to be aware 24/7, tho
I don’t think it will stop at the US if ppl don’t stay vigilant. That’s what I’M saying. We’re the lab rats. The rich want global rule and will use our interest and politicize them. And if you’re not paying attention, you’ll be in the same boat.
Right, because Europe never experienced fascism or authoritarian governments. Right, because the rich didn’t use bs socio/political nonsense to manifest Brexit. And the European far right isn’t grifting more and more ppl with anti-immigrant bs. All I’m saying is, there are larger things at play
What are you going to do now that politics is the thing keeping you from playing the games… this is why you have to care about politics, it will rise up and slap the switch right out your hands if you don’t.
actually, genuinely: good luck! i hope your country and many others can stake some advantage independent of US hegemony during any coming disarray. our polity cannot be trusted to uphold our role in any current order.
Oh wow, you really have not been paying any attention at all to politics huh 😅 I feel the desire to stick my head in the sand but I just can’t, I got kids, they can have a future even if you and me don’t
When I play, I absolutely don't wanna listen to arguments about Trump vs everything or listen to someone rant about the Libs. Name your character or clan whatever you want, but then STFU.
You give my choice to quietly block ranters in a clan chat too much power. Attempting to apply it to the greater world makes no sense. Do it on discord or Twitch. Or join a clan where shit talking politics is cool. Or do you believe I should be forced to listen? 🤷🏽♀️ FFS dude
If someone's bothered by my block, that's on them. It's as much my right to lose myself in a game as it is that of some arrested dev boyman to say stupid shit. They can yell on a street corner or in a game chat, but I don't have to listen anymore than I have to listen to religious proselytizing.
I love gaming. I have had some amazing guilds and lifelong friends have been made. But it is the toxic tiny dick energy that eventually made me realize it is no longer fun...every world chat in wvery game I've played in the last ten years has been MAGA sexists nonstop. No more $$ from me
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The don't want to see a character be affected by sexism or racism, because they may have to reexamine their own behavior and prejudices.
All roles, both active & non-active are vital to keeping the resistance networks safe & effective
Support can look like...
Logistics
Ancillary
Reconnaissance
Tech support
Boots-on-ground
Leadership
There's no dotted line to sign..
#RESIST
Got damn I hate napkins. Can’t let anyone have nice things ever
Fair to say they’ve also destroyed our politics with their gaming.
If we mean “I hate certain games because they’re woke”, that’s mostly conjecture.
Oh wait, I'm hearing now that the squirrel is dead. And the mayor responsible has had all DOJ charges against him dropped.
Damn. Oh well. Better luck next time.
I have a gigantic backlog of games I have bought yet never played.
Might give me a chance to stop buying "just because" and actually play games.
https://youtube.com/shorts/qBQLsw6jots
"I'm apolitical" half the time is just them saying they're a reactionary pig fucker who doesn't want to say it out loud.
you think "political" means "bad" instead of what it actually means
also given how basically every speedrunning community is overwhelmingly lgbt positive, I'm wondering where the fuck your chud ass is a moderator
Excited for you to point to games like Tetris.
There is clearly no politics in Tetris a game smuggled out of the Soviet Union during the cold war.
Human beings cannot make anything without politics. The very act of making art is political.
Universal. Always.
But they decided they couldn't jerk off with the Invisible Hand Of The Free Market so
My favorite is Schroedinger's Makeup: simultaneously a vital hygienic component of the professional wardrobe, and the hallmark of a dirty [redacted] depending on what happens in a man's pants when he looks at her.
No game
No "It's really about ethics in gaming journalism"
Hard to be much more uninformed than that.
But by all means, share with the class, what political nuance is present in Asphalt Legends Unite?
would you buy the game if it was renault Clio instead ? if you had to abide by speed limits ?
Or just stfu and stop crying about nons in game
Not only all games are political, games have had identity politics for as long as toy companies decided to put them on the boy aisle.
No politics means no politics
It's stupid to muddle the two.
That being said, I give zero benefit of the doubt to most of the "no politics in muh games" crowd.
"All games are political!" is on its own, an ambiguous statement.
If you mean that all are influenced, even subtly, by the politics of the time and worldview and politics of their creator then I agree.
If you mean they all have a political message, even a hidden one I don't.
Fair analysis of sociopolitical themes in media is far, far above their intellectual level.
What a mess
https://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-shadows-us-sales-march-2025/
wow they are twice the asshole i thought they were
There are two races: white and political.
There are two sexual orientations: straight and political.
There are two genders: male and political.
There are two gender identities: cis and political.
And anime (very) young girls.
Politics isn't everything you know? Sometimes I just want to play a video game, not talk about politics 🙄 I literally never want to talk about politics because it's the most boring subject on the planet and everyone who talks about it seems suuuuuuper f'd up and angry
I think you might just be a little dumb, and maybe incredibly privileged based on this post
Why did you even comment when this post is explicitly about politics honestly?
Do you understand what a social network app is?
There is probably an online tutorial you can Google search if you need some guidance.
I think my initial estimate was spot on
That seems dumb
They made their bed. Now they can lie in it.
Or sorry about that 😕
Whichever applies
Learn from this varsagod
... It's closer to American than me tbh
2. Why not extend this everywhere? Maybe the govt could make sure people’s experience in newspapers and public parties isn’t ruined by politics.
*...unless they align with mine.
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