honestly letting some bots and malicious presences show up on here is a good way to stress-test how well the current community policing / moderation mechanisms work. like letting a toddler eat dirt to help build their immune system
The moderation system is quite poor from what I can tell. It can recognize spam bots pretty easily, but that's about it. Bad actors and unwanted characters are mostly left to their own devices.
we already know the moderation doesn't work and is nowhere near ready for stress testing I genuinely don't know why people think inviting the whole of 4chan is anything other than completely boneheaded right now but I guess it's because y'all aren't the one that will be paying the price
We're both concerned about protecting marginalized communities here, so we gotta accept that poor moderation and leadership puts our most vulnerable at risk far more than people giving out codes. The end goal for bsky test is to go public. Can't be like this forever and hasn't been for a while.
Being discerning with codes is ineffective because the system was designed to limit the general population increase of the site for the beta test, not to keep out nazis. If it was really for community safety, there wouldn't be an open waitlist. A nazi wants to get in, they can get in. Easily.
Even with a gatekeeping approach, it's impossible to guarantee the person you invite isn't some closeted freak using you for the code. The person you invite now might show their true colors later, and it wouldn't be on you cause you're not a moderator and it's not your responsibility to be one.
Do these people think the assholes at twitter are just anxiously waiting for bsky invites? The assholes at twitter couldn’t be happier to be there right now. Thanks to Lauren for helping some good people escape!
i'm under no illusions as to what is going to happen to this place when it federates and opens up but in the meantime damn can we not have a little peace and quiet
i would like to actually see some new posts when i refresh the timeline but if you want to sit and stare at the same 3 posts for 20 minutes at a time i guess that's valid too or whatever
Do people not realize you can still get onto here the old fashioned way, by requesting an invite code from Bluesky and eventually they send you one? If some asshat really wants to be on here they'll just do that.
Why are we gatekeeping being on here again exactly? All the scolding in the world hasn't stopped the exact same groups that ruined twt from getting on here and doing the same shit
Someone from twitter sent me a code, and as soon as I DMed them back to thank them my email popped up with an invite from the public waitlist, so I used that one instead.
Not in the slightest.
The point is if you ping it out to twitter it will get picked up by bots instantly.
Why anyone would do that deliberately is like the people who deliberately block toilets up with paper.
Tell me you "tell me you don't know how data harvesting and automation works, without saying you 'don't know how data harvesting and automation works.'" without telling me you "tell me you don't know how data harvesting and automation works, without saying you 'don't know how data harvesting and aut
despite you doing your best to convince us by example that there’s people too obnoxious to let onto this site, it’s not working because the block button still exists
No dummy - did you not see one of the muppets even post about how surprising it was that codes like that get snapped up by bots instantly.
Dear heavens above are you completely new to I.T.?
Also Lauren has literally shared ways of preventing bits from getting them, maybe if your brain wasn’t a pile of string beans you would have actually read those posts
As shitty as Facebook and Zuckerberg are, I have to admit that it would have been neat to have been a college student in greater Boston when Facebook was starting up
It was pretty clique when I arrived here. Lots of really unpleasant people seemed to be dominating. The people that I like on Twitter have mostly stayed over there and don't post here very much which doesn't help.
how valuable are invites to a closed beta social media microblogging service anyway like who cares about this site other than those inflected with the poster’s mind disease
Lauren! twitter is a soul crystal where adventures (good, honest posters) trapped the racist posters. If you post a code there, they will break out. We almost had a racist free website You’ve turned on pvp mode. You crossed the streams. You’ve doomed us all
I'm mostly disappointed I posted 4 codes in a screenshot and from what I can tell all of them were used by followers of mine but they did not opt to follow me as well 😔
It's silly. I don't know enough people to give them out. It makes sense to spread them out into communities I'm part of. Just stupid snobbery to denounce sharing codes with people who want them.
I posted on a friend's thread the other day and they were snapped up within half a second and turned into accounts exactly like these ones. Bots with no profile info.
People are behaving like "closed beta" is a feature they were promised, along with some kind of agreement to gatekeep it forever. I don't recall signing that.
That sounds okay to me, personally. I didn't come here because I wanted a more protected or better moderated space. The problems for me were banning journalists, banning competitors' links, and trying to bar the exits.
just posted a screenshot of 40 codes and set a timer from time of post to when my own code i buried 2/3rds of the way down got claimed. my conclusion is that fear of bots instantly OCR'ing and claiming codes are unfounded and there is still pretty sizable demand to get off twitter
I mean, the plan is to open up this place eventually. Seems like a public service trying to help folks out of the bad place at the worst time in its history.
not sure if it matters so much where it is in the list. when i was trying to find an unused invite code i always started from the bottom of screenshots and worked my way up, and i can imagine bots doing the same thing. but yeah 8 minutes is a long time regardless
I just post them in the comments of random articles on https://defector.com. I doubt there are boys scanning for bluesky codes there. Just a bunch of people who’d like to get into the good site.
That’s a good use of them, imo. I’m still in the “I have friends who want invites” stage, but plan to end up posting them to that disability community thing after that.
Have people been using them? If so, I'd be happy to give you a couple. (I'm subscribed at the non commenting tier because I'm not funny on the internet)
Yeah this honestly proves it more than anything
It was fear mongering in a sense, but understandable really
This place is pretty cosy and safer from bots and spam, so having the possibility of that being threatened by sharing code pics is a valid fear really
beautifulsoup + randomized sleep times between calls to the regular site endpoints would be my guess. API access is only a problem for people who don't want to work around the API access restrictions.
beautifulsoup is a library for scraping websites, without using an official API. I confusingly use it as a generic term. If you can access it through a browser, you can write a program to do the same.
I figured you could avoid most bots by not posting them as plain text. but still a little surprised no bites from bots that can pull text from images (i assume this exists because of the way captchas are)
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The more people on here the better, gonna be publicly posting all my codes when I get them, although I only have like 100 twitter followers.
i might be one of the Bad Ones
do you mean the person posting or the stylish cat (he’s too busy to post)
More bots is just what everyone was glad to be away from for five minutes.
This is why we can't have nice things.
The point is if you ping it out to twitter it will get picked up by bots instantly.
Why anyone would do that deliberately is like the people who deliberately block toilets up with paper.
you're probably wondering why I'm skeeting right now
Dear heavens above are you completely new to I.T.?
It will be about moderation and how they handle monetization that will allow this place, or any place, to be functionable long term.
Is the fear of invasion by The Undesirables so high?
to get in and i’m ready to leave twitter for good
Post as a screenshot, maybe?
perhaps not part of a vulnerable group that faced the brunt of animosity when the ownership changes occurred
arrived here from nostr
It was fear mongering in a sense, but understandable really
This place is pretty cosy and safer from bots and spam, so having the possibility of that being threatened by sharing code pics is a valid fear really