I’m honestly kind of surprised this doesn’t happen more often. People left destitute by our stupid healthcare system, some opting to just die rather than saddle their family with debt. At some point they must consider taking the source of their problem down with them. People have even made comics:
I mean, setting aside the terrible things the company did, and all the stock/equity money, assuming that he works 60 hour weeks with no vacation ever, just his salary of 2.8 mil works out to $900 per hour.
How can that possibly make any sense? It feels like someone comparable could be had for less?
10 mil a year to swindle the poor doesn't seem like all that much when u had msnbc people making 30 mil for an hour of work a week. i'm always shocked for how little $$ per year these ceo guys are willing to destroy the country.
The suspect list includes everyone who had United Health Care and was denied coverage for a fatal condition or whose loved one was denied or whose life was destroyed by medical bankruptcy. It will be a very, very long list.
This is true. My mom worked for United who’s standard was tho deny claims they are supposed to pay for, because they know only a small portion of those people will claim and put up a fight to get it paid.
I don’t know man, take a stab at it. Surely it couldn’t be bc he makes millions while his company fucks over millions of people? That sound relevant to you? We’re all just asking questions here!
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, was fatally shot on December 4, 2024, outside the New York Hilton Midtown. The masked gunman fled, and police are investigating it as a targeted attack. Thompson, CEO since 2021, was in Manhattan for an investor conference. Authorities are pursuing leads.
Honestly, it's amazing to me that the US isn't awash in vigilante justice. For-profit health insurance is extortion and mass murder. Thompson killed a lot of people with paperwork. That seems a lot more evil than gunning him down in the street.
My bet is on the assassin or a loved one being denied a claim. Maybe the assassin has a treatable disease that may end up terminal because it wasn't treated.
It's like the old saying, "Don't mess with someone who doesn't have anything to lose."
United Healthcare denied a thorough scan to my wife when they seen a lump in her back at the hospital they told her to come back in 9 months “to see if it was growing” luckily it ended up being benign
I'm appreciating all the jokes, because fuck these people making so much money off of healthcare. But this quote from his wife is horrifying. The news needs to leave loved ones the hell alone in the immediate aftermath. Jesus.
LOL she said he'd bean receiving threats because "I dunno, lack of coverage?" Fuck her. Her husband knowingly denied covered healthcare that resulted in countless deaths, and she either feigns ignorance, or is a total moron. His company has some of the highest rates of improper denials.
they were already prepped for some life saving surgery but at the very last moment the HMO denied coverage. figured hospice care would be cheaper given the chances of recovery from surgey or other such considerations for the real customers - the stock holders.
The future is now. People are tired of being treated like shit for profit. You expect people to have compassion for the man who led a company that commodifies their health?
Disgusting is denying healthcare to a person as their cancer progresses, and playing a silly little money game while the persons life hangs in the balance.
He's responsible for untold suffering and it's a lot harder to empathize with a monster than with a normal human being. I'm not celebrating anything but I don't feel bad at all, either.
Dude nearly killed my sister in 2008 with lack of treatment and massive credit card debt and nearly made me homeless ill gladly kiss his cheek in hell for how much misery he's created for the devil
John Wesley Harding allegedly
shot a dude dead for stepping on
his corny toes.
I wonder if late United Healthcare
CEO did something like that, or
if he was stalked by someone
carrying a heavy grudge?
This is a warning shot across the bow of the mercenary health insurance industry. They are the primary opponents lobbying against universal healthcare in America. I refer all to Thomas Jefferson’s sentiments on spilling blood for a revolutionary cause. Healthcare for profit is killing patients.
Nick Cruz’s mass homicide action is not comparable to the killing of the CEO of a health insurance corporation. Nor do I condone such actions. But I do understand why this likely happened and the way for profit health insurance exploits its clients. Someone is bound to take action for the bad faith.
I’m not sure what Cruz’s or the shooter of the CEO in NYC sentiments were. Yesterday’s may have been due to the venality of a health insurance company. Time will tell. I can’t equate a randomized mass shooting with one focused on a single person. I’m sure personal frustration played a role in both.
i got zero sympathy for anyone who profits off the suffering of others and can only hope other capitalist scum gets what he got, they all deserve it. Eat the rich.
Agree with another sky member that violence is certainly isn’t ever the right answer…but this does highlight how much anger there is out there about how difficult, cumbersome, and frustrating it can be for people to obtain and then actually benefit from their healthcare insurance.
Violence is also, as seems more likely in this case (given late CEbro’s recent $15M cash-out and active DoJ investigation), the language of your Owners keeping your mouth shut.
The pious "violence is never the answer" is wrong. Violence was the answer to ending chattel slavery and there was a LOT of violence involved in that. A whole war, if you recall.
There is a vast difference between the violence of the slaveholder and the violence of slave resistance.
The statement I made was that violence is sometimes justified and gave slavery as an example. I did not use the shooting of CEO as an example of anything.
It can be wrong and something I would never do, but also bring joy. This man has blood on his hands and the world is better off. It I'd okay to not feel bad when an awful human has something awful happen to them
Yeah, I figured that there would be insurance jokes. However, a good friend of mine actually worked in the same office with this guy in Minneapolis. He says that he was always nice and helpful to the crew. Seemed like a regular guy. Anyway, a freakin silencer? Sheesh, that's hardcore.
Shooter allegedly, calmly walked into Central Park, discarded his jacket, gloves and mask and walked through what appeared to be a portal of some kind. Suddenly disappearing. Some think possibly back to the future.
Is it just me or is it likely to assume this assassin is someone who had a family member that was denied coverage for a life saving procedure by this large profitable insurance corp?
No one deserves to be gunned down in broad daylight except maybe a CEO who makes over 10 million a year telling poor, sick people to pay out of pocket to live
Realistically, I would put money on lobbying as the main reason.
Anecdotally, none of my conservative friends or family believe the government can efficiently run things. They have never considered comparing this idea against the failings of for-profit anything.
Well if they’d just look at ANY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION, they’d learn they are wrong. Send them here: https://www.commonwealthfund.org to look at the evidence.
Super good point. There are a lot of people who have insurance and yet wait to have procedures done only when they get off their work insurance and use Medicare. Knee surgery or cataracts or similar.
There's still room to do it through competitive insurance markets. Not as cheap and efficient as a national system, but still possible. The ACA relies too hard on employer-based insurance, so most plans don't have competition.
That's what the states are doing, right? I'll just go ahead and assume red state implementation is worse than most blue states.
Biggest problem is that states will never have the same pull as a national plan to push costs down.
Me too. United healthcare just denied several of my mental health claims when I was previously told a copay for one counseling session would only be $50. Is it mean to wish death on a human being? Yes but when I saw news that this human was the ceo of United I was not immediately empathetic….
Only upstate shootings are covered by the plan. If he had been stabbed in Midtown, it would have been covered, but with a 50% coinsurance after deductible.
We'll send that on up to the claims department. There will be a decision made in 6-80 weeks, and if you want to appeal you must make a blood sacrifice at the next full moon that occurs on a Wednesday in an even non-leap year, Saturday in a leap year, or Thursday in an odd year.
Barely half the country voted at all. Half of the voters voted for him, and he got fewer votes than last time.
And if we want to win votes, then we need to stop leaning more and more Republican, supporting the Palestinian genocide, and courting a fucking Cheney.
Agreed. We don't need to lean anywhere. We just need to help the people who have been totally devastated by inflation the past 5 years. Trillion dollars printed. Majority go to asset owners. Most asset owners are not regular folks.
Yeah, that was nuts. They just snapped their fingers and conjured six-trillion dollars, but then handed them to bosses who just pocketed the funds instead of paying their employees. I can't believe there weren't company-wide riots at the time.
united healthcare has denied so many claims, even his death is a drop in the bucket to the misery he inflected. we're too coddled as americans to understand that a violent death is not worse than countless unreported ones
His company has made records profit since the ACA was implemented. The company stock has more than doubled the last 5 years while the insurance premium continues to go up. Do we blame the players or the system? Certainly not wishing dead on him.
"player" is severely understanting his role here, he's a rulemaker and has a role outsized compared to almost every individual person in the system. there's a gulf between a player benefiting from the system and being reportedly the spearhead of one of the worst companies in the country
The company employs a ton of people. Are they also complicit? I'm just trying to steer the conversation towards the law makers. The people who we should totally be furious at.
if you think for one second that business executives are some passive players regrettably raking in millions or more then I don't think there's a productive conversation to be had about culpability here. CEOs along with other super wealthy are as much a part of the problem as lawmakers
Agree completely. He was murdered in broad daylight, has a family, and given his age, his kids are likely not yet adults. This giddy rejoicing in his death is revolting.
It absolutely does. He wasn't a good person. Good people do not have that job. The world is better off. He has blood on his hands and would have had more. This is how the world feels about him and his ilk. Let's not pretend
Not even thoughts and prayers, I'm holding a little celebration that another piece of shit is dead. The dude actively made the world a worse place and it is better off without him.
I'm just getting used to post that sentence as it's just not my problem anymore and it was the rich and right wing reaction to school massacres, couldn't care less about a fat, shitface, billionaire dying in thr streets like a rat as he deserves.
T&P is just the new, you should have seen it coming..
UHC greed caused a local hospital to refuse accepting their ins. their reimbursement was so low.In the US 1/2 of health cost is Ins profit. Universal would mean $4k in saving for every person in US causing the biggest boom ever and FAR better care. Now GOP wants it 4x worse.
I can absolutely agree that the changes in the industry for the worse all came about when the term "profit" began to be used. The physicians who were giants in their field have all but disappeared. Patient care is atrocious. But CEO's of any hospital or insurance company make a killing.
4K? Ambulance plus a ER trauma response team….easily 10K+ or way more if they took him to the OR. But of course, he could afford it a thousand times over.
I am aware. I am also aware that UHC policy has killed many patients and caused untold suffering purely for the sake of profit. While I feel bad for his family, I will not be shedding tears for this man.
Who gives a fuck? He still helped cause many thousands of deaths. And profited off of those deaths. As well as many thousands more people suffering because of him.
I hope the other higher-ups at UHC are paying attention. Anyone who has had to use Optum RX for lifesaving prescriptions is not surprised by this news one bit.
Probably murdered by someone who watched a loved one die for lack of appropriate healthcare. With insurance companies denying care,we may see more of these News reports.
Maybe it was someone who recently got notice from his congressional rep @patryanreports.bsky.social boasting cancer drugs were negotiated "down" to $10k/month. If an evil cartel is holding people's lives at ransom for $100k a year of course they're going to get whacked. Cartels only respond to force
My CA govt cut off my insulin coverage & EBT after I called up & told em I was getting evicted (bc my entire family died from covid early on) & I needed more than $8/month to survive homeless. They said oh ur not paying rent, that gives u more $ for food & insulin so they cut my $8 off & my insulin.
I'm sorry, are you saying you were getting eight dollars a month for EBT? How did you enjoy that piece of avocado toast ya frilly rich kid? (No seriously though wtf?)
Orange County CA plays the war on the poor game. God forbid should homeless disabled diabetics get the bare minimum of food they require. Instead they lowered the qualifications not the amounts. So in LA & Riverside Counties ya get $289 instead of $23. Bc OC doesn't want poor people to exist here.
So I'm chronically food insecure. And I workout/do physical therapy all the time, keep It healthy, don't smoke or drink or drugs. Former CEO of art galleries, lifeguard, great dad. I'm the new face of the homeless. Poor beach bum life with integrity. Lol. One girl slamming into me changed everything
I fully & truly understand that guy screaming in the middle of an intersection more than I do people sitting in their homes complaining about the guy screaming in the middle of the intersection. Even the food banks run by con churches are degrading AF. They don't give AF about medical conditions
Took 3 months to get it back. Meanwhile I rationed warm old insulin and begged for food. This govt can go fuck itself in so many fn ways I can't count em all. Plus getting my SSDI taxed while homeless is unfuckingbelievable.
I feel ya. There does need to be a complete change in our government. But trump's ruthless dictatorship, isn't it. However, it may lead to it after the destruction and collapse of society that will come from his administration.
Reason #23456 as to why I live in a beach town next to a major military target, major fault line, tsunami zone, religious zealots & UFO hotspot. I got front row seats to a plethora of various apocalypses. I was in that 89' earthquake. Don't want to survive another apocalypse as a disabled diabetic.
Thoughts n Prayers. Just one is insignificant for these profiteers of healthcare. I'd like to find the people that decided to tax the disabled's disability payments. Who tf TAXES the disabled?
They’re gearing up to tell veterans they’ve “had it too good” with their healthcare in the incoming administration no doubt. These people are ghouls. My job switched our coverage to United Healthcare recently and we had the usual HR meeting where the company rep reviews the policies
You know what doesn’t scream “you’re about to get super awesome coverage”? The poor UHC rep that hacked and coughed through the entire presentation, presumably because they couldn’t take time off to go be sick.
The amount of disabled people living out of cars is mind boggling. I help a lady whose kidneys are shot. She has wounds on her arm. Another has COPD & dementia. Another a stroke victim. Y'all suck at being human. Because I'm disabled & homeless (former lifeguard) helping the disabled out here. SMH
I don't give a fuck about the profit churches and the profit scumpbags that use religion as a tax dodge.
All the churches around here decided NOT to feed the homeless and disabled for thanksgiving. The only time they did this was when SCUMP was POTUS. Churches and politics will never be separated.
Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha if u think the Demorat politicians (who get universal healthcare for life) who are Corp loving, lobbyist owned, kissing big pharma & friends constantly are for universal healthcare then u never checked the stocks they own. They're not Demorats.
Oh my comrade in chaos, lol
You do remember when Joe Brandon used the memory of his dead son to shut down someone's question about Universal Healthcare? Team blue isn't fighting for anything like that currently. Look up the ratchet effect...
I used to argue the same, but neither side is really trying. They talk a good game for votes.
Repubs have Iraq and Dems own Palestine. All that money to kill others instead of saving our own. There is no longer a lesser evil. They are power/money hungry on both sides.
That's not calling out evil, that's being evil.
Let's consider the wider implications of this please. This looked like a professional hit. We commoners didn't get anything out of this.
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How can that possibly make any sense? It feels like someone comparable could be had for less?
It's like the old saying, "Don't mess with someone who doesn't have anything to lose."
But, yeah
THAT'S disgusting.
I was wondering how much pain and suffering he was responsible for.
But go off I guess.
shot a dude dead for stepping on
his corny toes.
I wonder if late United Healthcare
CEO did something like that, or
if he was stalked by someone
carrying a heavy grudge?
😭😂😭😂😭😂
See: Jan 6, 2021
There is a vast difference between the violence of the slaveholder and the violence of slave resistance.
By his murder
Grief can be one hell of a motivator.
Tell me again why we have a FOR-PROFIT healthcare system??
Anecdotally, none of my conservative friends or family believe the government can efficiently run things. They have never considered comparing this idea against the failings of for-profit anything.
But why stop there? They could privatize social security benefits. They tried that back in the 90s IIRC.
Privatize all road works and prisons.
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!?
Make it make sense!
Get older, inevitably require more medical attention/ procedures and are now on Medicare.
Wouldn't it just make sense to pay into Medicare for all from the get go?
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Still not an excuse for murder.
This is Trumpism.
Biggest problem is that states will never have the same pull as a national plan to push costs down.
And if we want to win votes, then we need to stop leaning more and more Republican, supporting the Palestinian genocide, and courting a fucking Cheney.
T&P is just the new, you should have seen it coming..
Funny because fuck him.
Sad because he's probably not gonna die.
We need more of this sort of thing.
he will probably not die because he already has
Grace and peace to his family.
Grace and peace.
(pause)
Huh. Nothing happened. I guess I already am in hell.
"I have never killed anyone, but have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."
What's crazy are how many intelligent non drug addict/felon decent people who are homeless.
All the churches around here decided NOT to feed the homeless and disabled for thanksgiving. The only time they did this was when SCUMP was POTUS. Churches and politics will never be separated.
This "Both are the Same" bullshit needs to stop!
You do remember when Joe Brandon used the memory of his dead son to shut down someone's question about Universal Healthcare? Team blue isn't fighting for anything like that currently. Look up the ratchet effect...
Repubs have Iraq and Dems own Palestine. All that money to kill others instead of saving our own. There is no longer a lesser evil. They are power/money hungry on both sides.
Not saying I didn’t agree
Let's consider the wider implications of this please. This looked like a professional hit. We commoners didn't get anything out of this.