The news cycle in STL is usually about 2 years of "officer involved shooting", 1 year of " officer shot", followed by one year of neither. They just can't figure out what causes that year of shootings.
Interesting statistic. I'd like some more. What percentage of the adult population are in the police? What percentage of those homicides were committed on duty, in the line of duty & off duty?
Also what is the percentage in a country that does not provide all police with guns. The UK for example.
Maybe back in 2014 or so I did some calculations on police killings and found that if you took the rate at which police kill people and applied to the general population murder rate, we'd have well over 1 million murders a year
Not to minimize how bad things are nationally, but Allen County is over double the national average of police homicides which, goddamn that’s quite a jump.
But he said they weren't complying, Erin! The law says that if you don't do everything they say while being screamed at with a gun in your face, you have forfeited your right to live.
Just because someone does not comply does not mean their life should be forfeit. Unless that person was going to take the life of another innocent, it is never justified.
Admittedly I’m a white bloke, I’m not on anyone’s list.
All I can say that my best mate, a black guy whose family came here from SA because of apartheid, would never think twice about going to the law. And trust me, he saw some bad shit back in the day.
So, 300k violent police interactions and 200k thrats of violence... so is that overlapping? Like, is that 200k threats of violence that didnt lead to violence, or is that at least 100k times where police jumped straight into assaulting someone with no prior threat?
Not surprising at all. Here in Australia our police are armed but very few if any shootings. However some of these new offices look barely to have broken into puberty. not having weapons in the population otherwise would be wild west.
The JG has been pretty good in the headline department lately, only to be immediately disappointing in the copaganda in the body of the text department
The fact that fleeing or resisting is a fuckin crime like the most natural thing in the world to do when a predator is after u isn't hide, fight & run! It's what we literally teach children in kindergarten to do!
Cannot stand the phrasing of that headline. It begs sympathy for the murderous pigs by implying that cops are the victims of 15% of homicides in the US.
Truth of the matter is that cops commit 15% of homicides each year. Maybe they should be disarmed.
But we don't know if that's accurate because they don't have to report if they don't want to. All police related deaths and injuries are reported on a volunteer basis. This doesn't include sheriffs or border patrol.
Qualified immunity needs to be abolished on the federal level. To me it’s not just frightening but so so hellishly stupid. Bodycams are not a prevention.
They're not only trained to kill, they're literally trained to be paranoid.
Those "shooting simulator" things they like to invite the public to participate in are presented as a sort of "choose your own adventure" but don't have any options for de-escalation.
It's not the NRA. Scalia decided in Heller that the 1st half of the 2A was meaningless. By McDonald v Chicago, municipal rights to regulate guns were gone.
We may need to repeal the 2A at this point to get back to where we were for most of our history
Was just making this argument at dinner last night with friends. One couple was 15 years younger than the other two couples and they did not remember that it wasn’t always like this.
The 'Justice' system we have was created in ancient times by the elite for their benefit. It is actually a 'revenge' system that harms many people & society. Our work gives us those answers. We need to create a truly modern society. #Law #Police
“There isn’t a single officer-involved shooting where the victim complied with the officer,” And not doing what the police order warrants an execution/death sentence?
Tax funded mafia.
Imagine that, it's hard to comply with cops waving guns around screaming Stand up sit down keep moving get down stop resisting hands up lay down head shoulders knees and toes
I’d love to know the numbers of switched off body cameras being reported and why isn’t it illegal, reportable and depending on the outcome, worth fines, demotion to criminal charges and national bans from future policing.
Saw video (from a biker) pulling in to his driveway at the end of a ride only to be tackled by an "off duty" out of uniform with gun drawn that nearly ran over him in an unmarked.
No, the biker did not comply at first because the situation would, in any ones mind, look like a mugging.
Saw a video where a couple were walking with their young child, they dropped a bag, owner stormed out complaining so mum grabbed the bag and the loser off duty copper tackled the father to ground for citizens arrest. All videod.
Cops arrived, dirt bag told he failed and makes BS coverup apology. 🙄
It's evident of how deranged the police are that they think this means something, let alone something substantial. You're supposedly killing people because they were endangering your life and there was no other option. They don't even pretend that's the case anymore. You didn't listen good enough.
coolcool Jeremy. Now lets look at the behaviour of the PERPETRATOR (you said victim, you were right on that) leading up to and at the time they used their weapon. 'Not complying' while I knee is on your neck or you're in a strangle hold, does not count.
Even if what he said were true (which we all know it's not) it's a non-response. Complied with *what* orders, and since when does non-compliance justify immediate execution without trial? Since fucking never. That's not even OK in a literal war zone, and cops aren't supposed to be at war with us.
Right? We don't expect an average person to be able to handle or respond to crises or stressful situations without rigorous training; a cop, firearm drawn, screaming at you falls into that category methinks.
Hey now! They always investigate themselves and each time after meticulous study of all the data and the facts come to the conclusion they did nothing wrong and if they did it was an accident and if it wasn't the officer feared for his life and it happened so long ago no one can really judge.
As far as I’m aware “noncompliance” isn’t a capital offense. If it were I’d really enjoy watching those “we will not comply” dipshits running for their lives.
Oh, I stand corrected on what was being objected to here (adjectives being used as nouns). It makes a huge difference to say "white people" rather than "whites" because implying "people" instead of saying it is clearly dehumanizing somehow despite language doing no such thing.
☝🏻 "whites" is weird too and sounds like a scary old man who is about to scream at you in public for showing too much ankle but they at one point do say "white people" but never once "Black people," not even in the same sentence!
I think it's a comment on black being capitalized and white not being capitalized. Also white people is used once, and black people is not used at all.
I think it's normal to see Black capitalized and white not, because of the historical context of race in America; the issue here is using "whites" and, more importantly, "Blacks" instead of "white people" and "Black people."
I lived there for about a year as a kid. Believe it or not I saw more schwasticas and kkk flyers while walking to school there than I have the rest of my life in northern idaho.
Solving crimes isn't their actual job.
Preventing crimes isn't their actual job.
Stopping crimes in progress is, in fact, not their actual job, as upheld by SCOTUS.
Let me see, who would need a local militia, and for what purpose...?
Webb's quote is bullshit. We've seen countless videos of officers screaming "stop resisting" at people cuffed, on the ground, and with knees on their necks.
Non-compliance is anything the cops want it to be to justify murder.
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Also what is the percentage in a country that does not provide all police with guns. The UK for example.
And that doesn't count federal law enforcement
Just... wow. So many layers of fucked up.
It's so telling that they believe being a police officer means everyone should obey you or you can SHOOT THEM DEAD.
And the use of the word 'victim'.
So if someone signs up today, they could be playing lethal Simon Says by New year's Day 2025.
"Raise your left hand and put your right foot BANG BANG BANG BANG"
"I was scared for my life" oh ok.
We need a law that says “did not comply” is not a defense against murder charges.
#VoteBlueDownTheBallot
But that would not happen here.
We have bona fide gangsters getting shot, but it’s considered illegal, because they don’t threaten the peace.
Of course, our police are considered civilians with extra powers.
You ask them for directions, you chat, you treat them like people
In the UK the police are at the mercy of the population, that was always how they were designed
They are well aware of this
All I can say that my best mate, a black guy whose family came here from SA because of apartheid, would never think twice about going to the law. And trust me, he saw some bad shit back in the day.
The Met has got a lot better.
15% of homicides are police officers?
15% of homicides are caused by police?
85% of homicides are unaccounted for by the police department.
https://bsky.app/profile/criminalerin.bsky.social/post/3l3lso3kgkf22
Truth of the matter is that cops commit 15% of homicides each year. Maybe they should be disarmed.
A third of those shooters are cops.
But we don't know if that's accurate because they don't have to report if they don't want to. All police related deaths and injuries are reported on a volunteer basis. This doesn't include sheriffs or border patrol.
Those "shooting simulator" things they like to invite the public to participate in are presented as a sort of "choose your own adventure" but don't have any options for de-escalation.
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If you subject any person to that sort of "training" often enough, they will start to fear getting shot by everyone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/08/2023-us-police-violence-increase-record-deadliest-year-decade
And I say, "No, that's just the mov... yeah, yeah, pretty much just like that."
I mean, I know it's harder than I made it sound. But, please, please, please try again. For the love of life. 🙏🏾💔
We may need to repeal the 2A at this point to get back to where we were for most of our history
Now that FedSoc has changed the gun laws, other organizations are carrying on the NRA's evil goals.
FUCK OFF!
#COPS #Dogs #PETS #MAGA
Justice & Justness
https://www.academia.edu/11700360/Justice_and_Justness
Tax funded mafia.
We're getting there.
instead of react like, "15% of murders being done by police is worth it even though they do not really doing much about the other 85% of murders"
No, the biker did not comply at first because the situation would, in any ones mind, look like a mugging.
ACAB
Cops arrived, dirt bag told he failed and makes BS coverup apology. 🙄
😣
Fuck the Police
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Kinsey
And I say this as someone who generally dislikes newspaper style guides
https://aceseditors.org/news/2021/ap-stylebook-updates-race-related-terms
https://apnews.com/article/archive-race-and-ethnicity-9105661462
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/16/us/george-floyd-protests-police-tear-gas.html
They've never really left.
One sister left in the area.
Preventing crimes isn't their actual job.
Stopping crimes in progress is, in fact, not their actual job, as upheld by SCOTUS.
Let me see, who would need a local militia, and for what purpose...?
Non-compliance is anything the cops want it to be to justify murder.
12ft.io works with this link, but idk how to share it that way
https://www.journalgazette.net/local/police-fire/fatal-police-action-shootings-in-fort-wayne-reflect-broader-pattern-concerns-continue/article_f2e8ea8e-763e-11ef-a12e-5f524a7f4b22.html
Author, I need to move immediately, my life is in danger by police officers compromised in a drug traffic.
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I'll never forget when UPS thanked the police for murdering one of their drivers.