I'm just going to say it: this shit is not helpful. It is transphobic. Knock it the fuck off.
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It merely normalizes their fascist tactics for them to continue.
https://bsky.app/profile/parkermolloy.com/post/3lgb4fe7jys2g
Granted, probably a lot of anti-trans folk doing the same, so can't always tell who's saying it to her.
But Trump's crusade IS conditional. Caitlyn isn't going to have to change her name. Her gender and name will be recognized because she'll be deemed safe at least for now.
BUT - she IS supporting these actions for other trans people through her continued support of Trump.
That makes her an asshole. And people do feel she's betrayed everyone else.
Fox isn't news. But most people, even in media, use that BS label. And in doing so, Fox wins.
She's Caitlyn Jenner. Period.
Using the enemy's framing to try to dunk on them is still a win for the enemy.
Made a note to myself earlier to call it out as you did, and got busy.
Hate when that happens.
But JFC, some of this isht isn't that hard, I don't think.
Sure as hell seems like it for some folks, though.
(Olivia should have known better)
she is absolutely donkeybrained so it makes sense to me
"But the leopard ate her fa..", no shut the fuck up for once.
Every OTHER skeet ACTUALLY deadnaming her is transphobic GOP-coded shit
Is that clear enough?
A bunch of liberal "allies" in the replies: "BUT I WANNA!"
https://bsky.app/profile/johnmashey.bsky.social/post/3lga4q3zcys2f
I stand by Caitlyn's identity choice. Her choice of president? Not so much. Nothin' transphobic about that.
Do they also want me to start using racial slurs to refer to non-white Trump voters? If not, I’d love an explanation of the difference
He's one sick fuck - the transphobia gets worse and then there's the added misogyny. Liberals are the fucking worst.
Just don’t fucking do it.
The continual assertion from cis people, even allies, that they know what is transphobic better than trans people do.
Though, in person, I might remind her that, technically, the president wants me to use her old name, but I won't. (that would be me, being passive-aggressive)
Calling her Bruce instead of Caitlyn proves their point. Don’t do it -say her name. By being respectful and calling her by her name, you prove the bigger point. # humankind
Since she literally killed a person and got away with it.
And you are 100000% right on all of it.
Fuck off
The issue isn’t the anger these folks feel, but the glee performed knocking down trans folks.
which as painful as that is, i suppose it’s useful to have the name tags so you know right away with whom you’re dealing
How people relished the deadnaming is seriously disturbing.
That's the priority here.
You can moralize all you want about her post but there are only a few ways you can tell someone they are happily supporting an Admin that wants them DEAD.
I wish we'd actually focus more on the open, clear enemy than scolding our own for every word we say to nazis.
Olivia is relaying a consequence of current legislation. A consequence of the current admin.
Do married women need to use their birth name, now?
I'm not saying they can't create a deadnaming rule and only apply it to trans people, I'm saying they *haven't* done that.
scratch a liberal and so on
They should really be careful what they wish for.
did they get frozen in ice for 8 years or smth?
It puts us on the same level as those fascists and helps them in spreading their hateful transphobia.
Yes I think Nazis should have free speech. No, I dont think advocating on their behalf is worth a second of my time that could be better spent elsewhere.
Liberal: [face turning purple from all the transphobic jokes they want to say]
SHE KILLED SOMEONE AND GOT NO PUNISHMENT FOR IT
Saying people shouldn't deadname or misgender her is just a moral conviction
Someone else replied that she doesn’t call her married neighbor by their maiden name when they get mad at her, bc that’s just weird. Same thing with deadnaming a trans person.
How about no one has that coming?
You think clearly disagree tho.
ICE raids and mass deportations were promised over and over again. Trump has been very clear about this.
Where was the misinformation?
If not? I mean, I don't wanna excuse anyone for being ignorant, but it's pretty clear that not all the information was making it to those communities.
the political bloc that's ok with oil-war empire, poverty & homelessness, all kinds of evil... yeah they're not anti-right wing, just cowardly
From a purely utilitarian perspective, their suffering is unlikely to create much good.
other marginalized people will understand that hunger as a desire to harm them or witness them be harmed, not as a hunger for justice.
Don’t be an asshole.
Don’t deadname and purposely misgender someone.
There are so many other ways to call out Caitlyn Jenner without being transphobic.
We do not deadname or misgender trans people just because they're shit people (and Caitlyn is a shit person don't get me wrong)
Our gender identity isn't predicated on good behaviour
We don't hold cis people to that standard
The joke there is literally just homophobia. I need Liberals to do better!
A Labour voter said neither he nor the Labour Party are transphobic and finished with "if you think they are i can't wait to see Reform put you in a camp"
You... can't wait to see that... but you're not transphobic? 🤨
See Dawkins’ Dear Muslima
God do I fucking wanna though.
However this is the social media and the USA that the Orange one and his oligarchs want.
I don't like it, but they're proving the point nicely.
What they're doing by deadnaming/misgendering Jenner is the same as if they were calling Peter Thiel "faggot" as an insult.
Tame, uninspired bigotry.
I wonder if trump is offering pardons for vehicular manslaughter.
Fuck you.
There are plenty of legitimate ways to criticize someone that don't involve being transphobic
I think that every person has the right to dignity and respect for their body, and that this dignity is not earned or lost by their actions. “That all men are created equal” ie we are all equal in this dignity. So when I laugh at someone, it’s only for their choices.
like shit on her for her positions all you want, just don’t deadname her in the process.
I am very stupid, sorry!!
i’ve done that myself
Like, participating in transphobia when a trans person displeases you is a straightforward demonstration of who you are
Someone who has publicly invited people to deadname them.
So this basically just hurts all trans people except Jenner. Which is extra pointless.
I know Israel's Far Right-Wing Extremist Government is very hateful of Transgender people, literally.
Maybe deadnaming is a way this person thinks it will highlight her hypocrisy?
But I still think she,Jenner, is a hypocrite in congratulating someone who just negated her & thousands of others of their identity
"Hey Caitlyn, you do realise you're supporting a man who is now going to enact EOs that will remove all rights you have to your identity and name?"
See? Not that hard!
Bruce should be ashamed.
The level of transphobia and how easily they slip into it is horrifying.
But to cis and non transfeminine folk, the least I can do is ask them to step back. It’s not their grief.
you dont have to know the term “deadnaming” to intuit that it’s shitty to call a trans person by our old name
she used her deadname to make a factually incorrect post, and a bunch of blue wave/resist accounts jumped on board to immediately misgender and deadname a trans person
you can criticize a trans person without deadnaming or misgendering. i believe in you
This isn’t allyship.
I wonder if that's what this is? Most trans people would never misgender another because we know how painful it is.
They just want to do it.
https://travelingasafamily.tumblr.com/post/131058443244/for-willyce-by-pat-parker
Caitlyn Jenner is a terrible person because of her complicity in eroding trans rights and not because of a name change.
Beyond that it is the liberal problem: They know how hurtful their words are and think that this awareness would somehow let them off the hook. Mel Gibson thought that too when he had his boozed up outbursts.
And it's not "just stating a fact." Trump's EO didn't say anything about reverting people's names. Miss me with that bullshit.
If you were truly an ally, you would not be deliberately deadnaming and misgendering even the most reprehensible trans people.
It’s transphobic to deadname someone who has transitioned regardless of how shitty they are
Don't be that person.
It is a fight, but I do not trust you to have my back.
Knock it off. As a trans person who hates Caitlyn Jenner and everything she stands for, she's still a woman. A shitty person, to be sure. But you don't get to strip us of our gender unless we
Our gender(s) (or lackthereof) are not privileges to be earned.
This idea that "it isn't X thing if I approve of the target" is getting really fucking old.
IS
STILL
RACISM. HOMOPHOBIA. TRANSPHOBIA.
Someone being your ideological enemy does NOT ACTUALLY CHANGE THAT. It only means that YOU are okay with being those things when the target suits you.
They're just closet fascists.
That's the problem.
you stupid fuck
When you say this you are saying to me and other trans people that at the end of the day you view our transness as a temporary thing that can be taken away pending good behaviour.
I loathe her. She is still a woman.
also dont talk about our genitals
you, weirdo
hey it's almost like I JUST did it.
They're all just virtue signaling transphobes looking for an excuse to hurt us when we don't buy into their agenda.
Because that’s what you’re doing.
this is a problem
you are the problem
She doesn't know who you are and never will.
But this trans woman is bad
Dehumanize that trans woman!
This is fucking stupid
It's transphobic and you're transphobic for doing it.
Do better.
(It would, in fact, still be racist as fuck.)
I understood the point of the original post, but it seems like a lot of folks just wanted an excuse to be transphobic and found what they thought would be an okay target. Big yikes.
https://bsky.app/profile/leenmcbeans.bsky.social/post/3ldrf43egds27
Do you misgender every trans person that goes awry of you
Why are you chomping at the bit at this?
You're no better than Republicans who post deadnames of famous trans people.
Fix your heart or die
That said, there is absolutely a way to do that without normalizing deadnaming people you disagree with, and that's what's happening.
Appreciate v much.
I thought the original Olivia post was a bit deadnamey but maybe fine in the context.
The responses where people just pile on and enthusiastically deadname is revolting... as if obeying in advance. These people are not allies
"You just supported someone who is going to pass a law that requires you to be dead named" would have been a better tweet.
Olivia Juliana is kind of a centrist lib type by my quick search. Tracks.
Not in favour of deadnaming
I'm willing to bet almost every trans person has that person in their life who will whip out their deadname just to twist the knife. Don't be that person.
Whatever you ask me to call you, that's what I should call you.
OK, what ISN'T wrong with people.
kinda all anyone needs to know
But the other comments def go to far.
This type of behavior is totally unnecessary and frankly the type of evil I expect from MAGAts.
People can think she’s a POS and still respect her gender and if they can’t then they’re no better than those MAGAts
Taunting and deadnaming her doesn’t feel right, even if maybe for some people it feels cathartic.
What about being transphobic to someone they don’t like gives cis people catharsis?
So it helps to say EO not statute, but both are law.
no.
It just makes you a transphobe