People spend a lot of time wondering why the left is worse at using independent media to control the national narrative.
A useful exercise is to ask why the left is also worse at selling snake oil and pyramid schemes, because I think the reasons are basically exactly the same.
A useful exercise is to ask why the left is also worse at selling snake oil and pyramid schemes, because I think the reasons are basically exactly the same.
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Instead of the British line, we need gorilla warfare.
We need new regulations: Those who claim to be news must adhere to standards.
Modern Conservatives would find existing holes and punch new ones.
How many millions of Americans do you think got their news by broadcast journalism in 1987, and still today?
Who said “truth isn’t truth” again?? 😑
I don’t think you’re being a heckler
I’m pretty sure you got the intent
But just in case you’re trolling, get bent
It was unintentional (and I think you're right), but I thank you for that.
"Oh troll, oh troll, you got my intent, / so sod off, will you? Go on. Get bent!"
It's the little pleasures that get you through the day.
MSM is gigantic & well funded. Agreeing with what you said, their morality & logic is guided by the dollars they get. Ours is not.
The recent issues are in part due to the consolidation of media (traditional and social) into a few companies we need to re-build from the bottom. And that doesn't take that much money
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yR9qnsafLa0
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That worked.
Nope, no way, uh uh, hell no.
We’re seeing Far Right/MAGA paint visions of strong men sweeping away the unwanted and making life slick. The level headed can only present actual hard work done by people in the background. MAGA can sell a vision to the anxious and greedy. But that’s not the end.
But, if MAGA can't rise to a minimal level of human decency and observation of the rule of law, then, yes, by definition any moral person IS better than them.
#SAVEOKLAHOMAKIDS
#NATO #USA2025
#FAFOUSA2025
I wouldn’t listen to a lefty joe Rogan or Rush Limbaugh.
I prefer real journalism
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Some of the BEST TALKERS in the entire party are Dem You Tubers and I dont think I've seen 3 episodes posted here. Our people are missing out on great news you wont find anywhere else and some charisma
1/ speak up !
Two other levels of bldg, we can get to later,
I'd really like to hear opinions on this;
Cant think of a 'better' losing model than that one.
We could start with you listing names of the ones you know
Only the best people.
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That was a thrill to behold.
How do we get around this?
https://apnews.com
AP: “Israeli probe into the killings of 15 Palestinian medics in Gaza finds ‘professional failures’”
They also reported on this story when it first broke, and here is that headline:
I really wouldn't say that people are turning to misinformation because truth is too expensive. There are many other reasons.
I just think in comparison to other social factors and other economic insensitives, of finding good information without a paywall is almost a non-issue.
How many good news orgs have them? WaPo comes to mind, but I don't know how unbiased they are anymore.
They are closer to the AP I think, where at times the reporting is so sterile in an effort to be unbiased that it misses the magnitude of what is happening.
We are seeing The Music Man play out not just in a small town, but across an entire nation.
" Occupy_Democrats" barely count as either .
They would definately qualify at selling those canisters of gender fluid .
also, i'm constantly trying to remind people that at least 10 million evangelicals voted for the apocalypse. 🤷
Just mayhap?
Meidas is listened to by people like us. We're already politically engaged
Rogan, Theo Von, Barstool, etc, are mostly non political. That's a huge advantage
And they're listened to by low info folks. Those are the people we need to reach
This will remain the case until such time as Americans make lying on mefia and social media illegal.
The second phrase is easier for everyone to understand and get behind.
Yet it's most often referred to as "due process," assumedly because they feel it's slightly more correct.
The left could do a lot just by using the language most people use.
Billy Mumphrey.
The Left: “I agree with 99% of what she says, but because of this 1 issue where I disagree, I cannot support her.”
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Then again, we might be getting back to why you used “him” for the right and “her” for the left, huh.
After one more cycle of this, tho, people might have to admit the left has a misogyny problem too.
If it wasn’t necessary, McDonald’s wouldn’t spend $1.9B / yr on ads just in the US
Miniminuteman recently did a blurb on the Giza Pyramid conspiracy bullshit. At the end he notes one science communicator spun their take using conspiracy language.
The far right is overstepping providing ample salacious stories to debunk without selling snake oil to do it.
A level field. Meeting your adversary on the same terms that they meet you.
When that adversary is aiming their kick at your nuts over and over again it's not unfair to hit them there.
nation building is far more complicated and takes longer to sell
Republicans treat elections as selling voters a product.
#taxtherich
Disseminating facts, educating the public & refusing to stay silent when laws and norms are being trampled is actually their job.
But snake oil is cheap. Can be produced in droves. Doesn't spoil.
Is that hard to stand on the stage with Trump and ask him how many farmers he intends to bankrupt this time?
How about asking how many abortions he paid for, or promised to pay for?
How many million will die in season two?
But it's hard to come up with one liners when your opinions have nuance.
So well said, Hank.
So why do we abide a falacious interpretation of the First Amendment that allows a freedom to Lie in public discourse?
We outlaw fraud in other products & services but not for those poisoning the information stream of our democracy.
It makes no sense.
https://george-lakoff.com/about/the-all-new-dont-think-of-an-elephant_george-lakoff/
Hank, I love you, but did you ever set foot in a pre-Amazon acquisition Whole Foods?
A podcaster group is forming to go to the school C Kirk is at and counter him.
I've always had talks with a friend on how it'd be possible to spread lies in the opposite direction, getting people mad about the right things the wrong way
To quote Lionel Hutz
There's the truth
And "the truth"
Facts are just so boring to the mouth breathers.
Pathos works.
The way THEY approach it is scamming, but I can't see a single structural reason why we can't flood the independent media market with accurate reporting and succeed through the deluge.
As for the first, in terms of deluge, there's just... putting out more content. Post every day, videos every day, photos, everything, anything and everything.
If you're good at leveraging that with AI or whatever to be even more effective perfect.
So that's one leg
So the whole decentralized recruitment/expansion is a strong weapon, given that our message is (by definition)
The third and most technical, regarding algorithms specifically, is that platforms actually heavily weigh WHAT content is created in terms of...
Millionaires like Marc Cuban are trying to keep prescriptions
lower for the common people or have charities to help others.
It pays to be selfish.
But you're right, mostly. And I think it starts in infancy, when incompetent parents beat us into submission with confidence, instead of giving us tools to distinguish between the two.
Marketing is presenting the facts in the best way that
connects with the consumer/voter base.
Facts stir emotions like: "Funding cuts are being suggested for children with acute illnesses, diseases and
disabilities in the House Appropriation Committee."
This affects everyone.
People getting scammed is as old as civilization.
It's why Dems that message well also are the ones out there constantly talking/doing to constituents, refining, listening, improving.
Comics: Jon Stewart, Al Franken, Zelenskyy.
I therefore am a proud patriotic leftist.
Trump gave people who felt ignored & scorned a sense of identity and praised them as patriots. So they worship him even as he exploits them.
Dems argue over where they should be on the left-right spectrum and offer policy proposals. Yawn.
And, critically, much of it, like Theo Von or Barstool, is non political. A crucial difference and advantage:
https://bsky.app/profile/darkdementus.bsky.social/post/3llv5hhpe722y
The metrics that we use to decide success or wealth, and by extension power, are also the traits psychopaths and sociopaths hold in abundance.
The West did this to themselves
We can correct each other, but they're pulling us apart and lying to everyone, making it as hard as possible for us to reach them. They probably have armies.
Just like you don't have any successful podcasters who are able to convince people. It's because all they do is lie
The bad guys have no compunctions about lying.
Both-sidesing and failure to report the truth has been epic.
Why platform a zionist voice on your video about a Palestinian, anti-Zionist being deported for political speech? One who says he would support a ceasefire (during a genocide) if protestors were nicer
Why does his Buddhism and willingness to speak with people who dehumanize his people make him worth talking about?
Why does the man need to be a martyr for your video instead of just a human being, flaws and all?
So, challenge your beliefs. Learn the history around this occupation.
Imagine people complexly, even their darkest sides that make you squirm
And now that it is, what can we do except combat it, lest we’re dragged even further down?
People point to Meidas or Pod Save America. But that's missing the point. The key is Theo Von or Barstool etc are nonpolitical
A lot of cultural zeitgeist is right coded
https://bsky.app/profile/darkdementus.bsky.social/post/3llv5hhpe722y
Like how in the name of fuck can you watch these people duck to the center to try to pick up votes without missing a beat for 40 fucking years and then go "well of course, they're not snake oil salesmen"