i do not understand what elon and trump would be doing differently if there weren’t themselves actual agents of beijing and moscow - ThreadSky

jamellebouie.net • 9 days ago

i do not understand what elon and trump would be doing differently if there weren’t themselves actual agents of beijing and moscow

Reposted from Eliot Chen

NEW: A week after Elon Musk's DOGE gained access to Treasury's payments system, funds to the National Endowment for Democracy have been inexplicably frozen.

The move is a huge win for Beijing, imperilling Chinese civil society groups around the world.
www.thewirechina.com/2025/02/12/d...

Comments

jumahl.bsky.social•8 days ago

That’s the simple test - what would they do differently?

beckya.bsky.social•8 days ago

They’re not agents but absolutely are assets

equineducklings.bsky.social•9 days ago

Remember when GOP investigated a fake scandal where Biden supposedly abused his influence to put his son on the board of a Chinese company? I’m sure those same members of congress are going to have a lot to say on this issue of selling out our international policies- right?

bakerblue.bsky.social•9 days ago

Amen.

terrypasta.bsky.social•9 days ago

It's worse than that, they're agents of particular US ruling class factions.

expatriot.bsky.social•9 days ago

I *also* can't think of anything he'd be doing differently were he the literal antichrist.

gupah.bsky.social•8 days ago

Best thing you said was “I do not understand”

youngorst.bsky.social•8 days ago

Your stupidity and love of Trump above country is noted!

Vietnam vet becomes traitor.

gupah.bsky.social•8 days ago

Do you have any bio you can post or are you just a loser?

youngorst.bsky.social•8 days ago

Did you really think that was clever?

gupah.bsky.social•8 days ago

No just accurate

youngorst.bsky.social•8 days ago

You’re not good at this. Trump is disappointed, I’m just muting.

gupah.bsky.social•8 days ago

Why is disagreement with you clowns immediately translated to “love of Trump”? Now I am a “traitor”? More POS’s over here than X

youngorst.bsky.social•8 days ago

You are defending treason. People that defend treason are traitors.

Pretty simple.

Whine elsewhere.

gupah.bsky.social•8 days ago

Ok person with no bio.

youngorst.bsky.social•8 days ago

Ok persons who loves Trump more than his country.

gretagroots.bsky.social•9 days ago

Yes, and the crazy thing is Republican electeds either don't care or want America to fail

elonmuskispussy.bsky.social•8 days ago

Are we finally going to start charging people with treason?Because the entire republican party is willfully turning traitor.

spinbag48.bsky.social•8 days ago

Treason is what USAID was doing. They've been ripping us off for years. Check out the waste list, and tell me what you don't agree with.

wandqueen.bsky.social•8 days ago

That would be one good place to start.

bob0colo.bsky.social•9 days ago

Musk and TechBros imagine themselves Running the World. This is the ...New World Order MAGA voted for.

amy4opus.bsky.social•9 days ago

This is what I keep thinking, too.

sigreign.bsky.social•9 days ago

There are connections between them... USAID was investigating mush his satellites were compromised giving away Ukrainian positions.. the other guy has been in biz with Russian mob since 80s when their prisons were opened. They took over Italian mob neighborhoods when they went down.

sigreign.bsky.social•9 days ago

Also supposedly mush has been in contact with putin over the past two years.

hfyou.bsky.social•9 days ago

Now Chinese police can run rampant on American soil. It's what Musk always wanted.

calgaryrds.bsky.social•8 days ago

Distributing Cayman Island bank account numbers?

tonysarris.bsky.social•9 days ago

Could be. But in any case, it makes a certain amount of sense that we wouldn't spend money to promote democracy abroad when we no longer have it at home.

niedermeyer.online•9 days ago

fun random fact: Tesla is the only foreign automaker ever allowed to build a factory in China without a local joint venture partner

romabysen.bsky.social•9 days ago

A series of inexplicable coincidences

thatoldbear.bsky.social•9 days ago

or as Balzac would have said "Oh look at all these inexplicable, unsolved crimes, I wonder who made their money from this"

jenonymous.bsky.social•9 days ago

Tesla is also the only foreign company suing Chinese citizens (for publicly complaining about injuries due to shoddy Teslas) and always winning—the CCP does special favors for Musk.

Recently, when TSLA stock was sliding, Musk flew to China and the CCP let him pretend he was close to FSD in China.

fakekimmygibbler.bsky.social•9 days ago

Huh, and that first Shanghai factory was announced in June 2017, 5 months after Trump's inauguration.

blaubird.bsky.social•9 days ago

I’d prefer some Chinese “guidance”. This place sucks

rowyourbot.bsky.social•9 days ago

Well, they kinda like autocracy so it might not end up being very different in the end. Though sometimes Chinese autocrats take a longer view of things, something American autocrats (and Americans generally) aren’t inclined to do.

hardklaw.bsky.social•8 days ago

I'm pretty sure China just wanted to steal all Tesla's tech, and they were apparently very successful

trodeljunco.bsky.social•9 days ago

BYD has already eaten TeSSlas ass

singleal2000.bsky.social•8 days ago

China Joey ASSHOLE was a paid agent of China, that's what the $$ to Hunter ASSHOLE were all about

periglour.bsky.social•8 days ago

Tesla sells pretty well in China and there's a plant in Shanghai so anything Musk does to please CCP is good for him.

mudsludge.bsky.social•9 days ago

Really seems like that's who they're working for at least in part

socal92109.bsky.social•9 days ago

They are actual agents of Russia and China; and the stupid white trash is applauding.

w0x0f.bsky.social•9 days ago

Russia gets Europe.
China get Japan, Taiwan, and the rest of SE Asia.
US gets the Americas.
Not sure where Africa winds up, but I’m sure those three have a plan. Maybe Musk gets it personally.

beloit08.bsky.social•9 days ago

Africa is the natural resources bank. The blood bag strapped to the front of roaring corruption machines driven by Putin, Xi, and Trusk (Mump?)

calebbryantmiller.bsky.social•9 days ago

I had this same vision in a dream a few nights ago. The new axis realignment. World War 3. Terrifying.

w0x0f.bsky.social•8 days ago

No war, just partition.

longleaner.bsky.social•9 days ago

China is just as important to Elmo’s wealth as the US - and so long as he’s puppet master for the White House he can cover both bases - at the expense of normal Americans

virgilsflowers.bsky.social•9 days ago

Foreign agents wouldn't be as reckless and obvious.

robaltman14.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’re useful idiots, not actual trained foreign agents.

crimsoncloak.bsky.social•8 days ago

It's not that they have loyalty to some other country. It's that they're oligarchs, and they cozy up to other oligarchs. They agree with Putin and Xi about what the world should look like - techno feudal kingdoms with ignorant and slavish populations. The kingdoms aren't in conflict yet.

ofarrelltalent.bsky.social•9 days ago

Musk and trump are selling off pieces of our country to the highest bidders. Theres enough for all our enemies leaving very little, if anything at all, for her citizens. Heartbreaking 💔

dslakter.bsky.social•9 days ago

One thing they might do differently is be more subtle.

heightsreport.bsky.social•9 days ago

If you can't beat the Axis of Evil, Join Em.

mickeleh.bsky.social•9 days ago

Can’t be sure, but I think if they were actual agents, they’d be less batshit crazy.

calicogiraffe.bsky.social•9 days ago

I kinda think they’d be more subtle if they were actual agents

sjgooner.bsky.social•9 days ago

yeahduff.bsky.social•9 days ago

Don't let the memes do the thinking for you.

sjgooner.bsky.social•9 days ago

We're the Black Panthers agents of Beijing? I hate Elon Musk- but what's China got to do with it? Do you know where Elon can't say shit? In China because the dictatorship of the working class don't tolerate that shit

sjgooner.bsky.social•9 days ago

$325mil annually for anti China propaganda lol

yeahduff.bsky.social•9 days ago

*sigh* A lot of the moves Musk and Trump are making are a great benefit to China, as well as Russia, Iran, and many other countries we are not friendly with. That's what China's got to do with it. That's what the guy is saying. It's got nothing to do with that silly meme.

sjgooner.bsky.social•9 days ago

Lol- and I'm telling you that that's our problem- and we have been antagonizing the entire world.

multiverseandy.bsky.social•9 days ago

He won't say anything because he has a gigafactory in Shanghai.

sjgooner.bsky.social•9 days ago

Right- and Elon understands that he cannot step out of line. China has accepted capitalism as part of its development- but no billionaire is above the collective - see: Jack Ma

multiverseandy.bsky.social•9 days ago

Poohbear scares Putin methinks

multiverseandy.bsky.social•9 days ago

chrisbanks3.bsky.social•9 days ago

I really think “his” goal is to divide the world into 3 zones of interest: Amerikkka, Russia, and China

srslysteve.bsky.social•9 days ago

That's what I think mate 😳

chrisbanks3.bsky.social•9 days ago

It makes sense. Trump is an empty vessel ideologically. He only cares about power and wealth so he’s an easy mark for Putin and Xi. And they could never pull off breaking up the planet into zones without the US. and now they’ve got it right there. If WE don’t stop it, I think that’s where this’ll go

effinggrim.bsky.social•9 days ago

It was always
Russia
Russia
Russia

rowyourbot.bsky.social•9 days ago

It’s hard to tell if they are ‘agents’ of China and Russia or if they are international billionaires who want to destroy most of the governance structure and democracy in the USA because they think it gets in their way. And maybe these will amount to the same thing in the end.

marclivolsi.bsky.social•9 days ago

My basic assumption is that the billionaires are in for the unprecedented opportunity to both seize economic power and strip away accountability & enforcement. The camp followers (incl. Trump) are in it for the grift & power (illusory or otherwise). It still serves our rivals just fine.

rowyourbot.bsky.social•9 days ago

Yeah, basically.

jmwarren.bsky.social•9 days ago

There is no reason to believe they are not actually agents of Russia

thelordgod.bsky.social•8 days ago

They are.

And I mean that literally.

tullib.bsky.social•9 days ago

Hiding it? If they were intelligent, I guess

sthomas451.bsky.social•9 days ago

If RFK tries and succeeds in pulling vaccines, then we know for sure.

jaxdx.bsky.social•9 days ago

FACTS!! Both would have no problem seeing this country go down the shitter !!

holzkopf.bsky.social•8 days ago

They would be more careful. Because in moscow you drop out of windows a lot quicker

dribrats.bsky.social•9 days ago

The purpose of a system is what it does.

drew-blood.bsky.social•8 days ago

Does anyone know of a good list being kept of all the actions taken so far? I'd love to have a running tally.

dearjane22.bsky.social•9 days ago

Seems that way…..

ohiohamlet.bsky.social•9 days ago

Spot on.

dbranch9.bsky.social•9 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/dbranch9.bsky.social/post/3lhze6h7bck2a

sugargayisber.bsky.social•8 days ago

Musk has the nuclear codes = Checkmate.

We'll never wrestle controls back from him.

He has: tunnels, satellites, Trump, Putin, rockets, shitty cars and trucks, a shitload of kids and must be making more this very second, dozens of body guards, and all of our social security funds and information

mariabustillos.bsky.social•9 days ago

Easy to believe, given the characters and histories of both... the mystery is, why are the Republicans lying down for them

elliotsharron.bsky.social•9 days ago

They probably all got checks for ;ike $10,000 or something. Why would they stand up to them? Sounds like a hassle. Paperwork is probably involved.

wrecked9n76e.bsky.social•9 days ago

Bad bad bad kompromat

frodolove.bsky.social•9 days ago

😡

achamernik.bsky.social•8 days ago

THANK YOU. The only reasonable answer is “nothing at all.”

So how do we get out of being governed by agents of Russia and China? Because I don’t want to think about four more weeks of this, much less four (or endless) years.

i-lovecoffee.bsky.social•9 days ago

Are we all just going to ignore the fact that it would take months for a forensic audit of these massive government agencies. Yet, somehow musk and his group of hacker D'bags (none of whom are accountants or have any idea what to look for) are "finding" massive fraud? And they provide no evidence.

johnbenoit.bsky.social•9 days ago

tejanolos32.bsky.social•8 days ago

“If it’s a little inflationary but it’s good for national security, so be it. I mean, get over it,” CEO of JP Morgan Jaime Dimon. His comments in support of tariffs, which he knows will affect billions of average families but make billionaires like him more rich.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-announces-plan-to-impose-fair-and-reciprocal-tariffs-against-us-trading-partners/ar-AA1z02TS?ocid=TobArticle

satiricalplanet.bsky.social•8 days ago

A late shoutout to Stephen Hawking and democracy, one explored the cosmos, the other collapsed under its own gravity.

https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/usa-edition-of-the-dead-democracy

scikeefe.bsky.social•9 days ago

Profiting from oppression. Seems about right

stacebacemace.bsky.social•9 days ago

More their enemies would probably be falling out of windows ?

But it hasn’t been a month yet, so give it time.

floatippity.bsky.social•9 days ago

Absolutely nothing.

jeffwave.bsky.social•8 days ago

It seems that way!

scrumdaddybax.bsky.social•9 days ago

Psss... pass it on.
https://discord.gg/50501

https://fiftyfifty.one

https://youtu.be/D9zYeFOrlzg?si=-2R9HoGxHoat6JRF

anthonykphotos.bsky.social•9 days ago

Tesla also keeps successfully suing people in China who criticize him

hobbesjosh.bsky.social•9 days ago

Putin and Xi approve

mikesmeltz.bsky.social•9 days ago

They would be more subtle

susiea2024.bsky.social•8 days ago

You mean they aren't actually agents of beijing and moscow?

aguasonic.com•8 days ago

Bingo.

duprass.bsky.social•9 days ago

“You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations & peoples There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.”

pfiore8.bsky.social•9 days ago

So it’s treason

scottthrasher.bsky.social•9 days ago

🚨🚨🚨Exactly! They couldn’t be more obvious. Russia doesn’t even try to hide it. They’re giddy on their airwaves about how musk and trump work for them

beloit08.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’re divvying up the world: U.S. gets North and South America, Russia gets Europe, China gets Asia, and they’ll all reap the benefits of China’s belt and road initiative through the Middle East and Africa.

3dayweekend.bsky.social•9 days ago

This is the thing

trevorgriffey.bsky.social•9 days ago

Tech motto "break shit" goes from lawless business practices to actual treason.

ed-tekhead.bsky.social•9 days ago

They are selling us out...

4jahall.bsky.social•8 days ago

Absolutely

tdb011235.bsky.social•9 days ago

Every day is another shit show worse than the day before. It appears to be shit shows all the way down.

jesseny.bsky.social•9 days ago

Nothing. They'd do exactly what they're doing. If it looks like a duck...

goonzerk.bsky.social•9 days ago

If Beijing or Moscow actually took control of the US government, they would be more subtle and slower.

csoppenhuizen.bsky.social•9 days ago

They wouldn't be as obvious and would probably get kickbacks for it. Beyond, ya know, trolling the libs/those who believe in governance in America.

mogtx.bsky.social•9 days ago

They don’t think of themselves as agents but as businessmen servicing the highest paying clients. Someone should ask if they are Americans first or business men first.

donsheldon.bsky.social•9 days ago

This is why Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm.

carolynthechef.bsky.social•9 days ago

This is a Coup

trump-is-a-virus.bsky.social•9 days ago

They really are trying to destroy democracy in the US and around the world. MAGA wants a fascist dictatorship. There is no other reason.

mstevens86.bsky.social•9 days ago

They probably would have done the military purge first so there could be daily Kent State-esque events if needed.

spinbag48.bsky.social•8 days ago

If USAID used our money responsibly, they wouldn't be under the knife. As far as Elon and Trump go, if Satan left his fiery pit and said relax I'm only here to cut billions of waste, nobodies is going to hell today, as a taxpayer, I'd say go for it.

ehansen.io•8 days ago

Lol…cuz I don’t know what else to do…

docmartincohen.bsky.social•9 days ago

I think they'd be a lot more subtle…

hamiltwan.bsky.social•9 days ago

The only thing is I think those countries would probably prefer if they were a little more subtle and little less obviously high out of their fucking minds? Just from a competency standpoint, they probably want agents who could concentrate long enough to do a sudoku.

scottthrasher.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’re openly celebrating Trump and musk on Russian TV

hamiltwan.bsky.social•9 days ago

I'd cheer if we got Chevy Chase elected Tsar of Russia too. But I bet it would work better if it was sneakier.

arendtfan.bsky.social•8 days ago

🤔

annaliisavilppu.bsky.social•9 days ago

allana31.bsky.social•9 days ago

Quite!😱

dogstargirl.bsky.social•9 days ago

My aunt always said that if fascism came to America, it would be the Republican Party that made it happen. They are so easily brainwashed and pure evil. It looks like we are being taken over by several forms of dictator led government philosophies at the same time. Trump has sold America out.

winstonsmith2024.bsky.social•9 days ago

Trump believes in Great Powers theory and that the three empires of the U.S., Russia, and China are entitled to their own sphere of influence. As long as they don't interfere with ours, he won't interfere with theirs. I should add that I think this is an entirely bankrupt philosophy.

timpamplin.bsky.social•8 days ago

I keep explaining this to people. What would a land war in Greenland actually accomplish? It would concentrate us forces in the Atlantic, leaving Taiwan vulnerable to China, and it would pull European forces away from the east, leaving the Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, etc... vulnerable to Russia.

timpamplin.bsky.social•8 days ago

I doubt it will actually happen, but it seems like every move he suggests hurts Americans and helps our adversaries.

madisondiazwrites.bsky.social•9 days ago

Someone told me recently that the only farmers suffering from the recent decisions are ones who were working with China when they shouldn’t have been…what a projection to repeatedly blame China when it is their own “leaders” doing this shit.

dicedcarrots.bsky.social•8 days ago

What about farmers who had USAID contracts? Does this someone know all farmers?

madisondiazwrites.bsky.social•8 days ago

Right? I don’t believe he knew a single farmer. everything he said was “I know this for a fact because it happened down the street from me” or “I know the people you’re talking about and you’re wrong.” So like how can I argue with that? I sent him to @rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social and called it a day.

goldengator.bsky.social•9 days ago

Indeed. What the #trump admin is doing to our country only makes sense if you look at it as “doing #Putin’s bidding.”

lobotomy42.bsky.social•9 days ago

Probably no tariffs on China

eternaleyeroll.bsky.social•9 days ago

Truly

robgalanakis.bsky.social•9 days ago

Has there been much discussion of what probably happens if China moves on Taiwan?

thenamesjane.bsky.social•9 days ago

In the UK we call Chinese and Russian agents spies.
And we still hang spies!

adreanalangston.bsky.social•9 days ago

As I previously stated- why would Trump, who spoke so negatively about his own alcoholic brother, hire a falling down drunk to head up the armed forces? Because he wants a weaker armed forces. Because he wants a guy who has no experience conducting a successful audit to be in charge while Trump's

adreanalangston.bsky.social•9 days ago

cronies ROB THE US MILITARY BLIND the way the RU oligarchs did to the RU military at the fall of the Soviet Union. Trump may not be an agent of Putin but Trump is a gangster like Putin.

adreanalangston.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hegspeth is also getting rid of the generals who might have the experience and knowledge to run a credible audit and to know when shady goings on were going on.

browwiw.bsky.social•9 days ago

They legitimately hate democracy. And I mean like an actual Ancient Greek oligarch hated democracy. It’s a social disorder that needs to be stamped out.

triggeredbytrump.bsky.social•9 days ago

They are

tikifire.bsky.social•9 days ago

They don't want a Democracy judging by their actions.

stargirl1620.bsky.social•8 days ago

📌

mralexoliveira.bsky.social•8 days ago

Bigger question is what would Americans do if they fully admitted it?

mekonis.bsky.social•8 days ago

Twist it into another excuse is what sadly..

jamkam6969.bsky.social•8 days ago

Could this scam be anymore blatant? And yet the Dems give us the squeaky whine of Schumer. It’s overdue to chuck, Chuck.

seentoomuch.bsky.social•9 days ago

I don't believe Trump is a witting agent of either, but you're 100% correct he wouldn't be acting any different if he was.

Musk I'm less certain isn't, but the same applies.

publica.bsky.social•9 days ago

China and Russia have nothing to do with this. If you want to stop Trump and Musk, we have to be serious.

peter-maurer.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’d prefer to rule over ashes than keep a strong country intact.

tuesdayvodka.bsky.social•9 days ago

My thoughts exactly. And its a question people in Taiwan, who've fallen for this strongman-ism, really need to ask themselves.

antisocialworker77.bsky.social•9 days ago

Nothing.

Because that’s exactly what they are.

Traitors are as traitors do.

ryanhofmann10.bsky.social•9 days ago

Open secret, nothing would be different if the Whitehouse was compromised.

pacifcmigrant.bsky.social•9 days ago

I’ve been saying for weeks now, into months, that every single thing they do either weakens us or helps our enemies., and his are usually the same thing. Every. Single. Thing. Prove me wrong.

smart-feller.bsky.social•9 days ago

Personally, I think Vivek is the mastermind behind all of this

ampersine.bsky.social•9 days ago

ethanjacobs.bsky.social•9 days ago

Hell yeah

https://bsky.app/profile/ethanjacobs.bsky.social/post/3lgez565w5s2v

dinglegnard.bsky.social•9 days ago

Elon got whatever dirt Putin had on Trump perhaps for money, Starlink info or some other tech. Now Trump must bow down to Elon. Just one possibility, but he sure does act subservient to Elon for some ongoing reason.

reubenhub.bsky.social•9 days ago

Yeah he aligns with power and shits on the helpless, kind of a reverse Robin Hood

ravenpaisley.bsky.social•8 days ago

You are smart Jamelle!

urocklive1.bsky.social•9 days ago

I can't think of a thing. Putin and Xi must be thrilled.

jgbrowning.bsky.social•9 days ago

Authoritarians do authoritarian things. This should surprise no one.

bigfatbartolocolon.bsky.social•9 days ago

they'd be more subtle about it

nocatsnomasters.bsky.social•9 days ago

The hypothesis is not that they are _good_ at being cat's-paws.

norbizness.bsky.social•9 days ago

Shanghai Surprise

piperdown.bsky.social•9 days ago

And there it is^.

templetonfleshbeak.bsky.social•9 days ago

A glorious victory for the middle kingdom

abdallahnr.bsky.social•8 days ago

This Cold War rhetoric needs to stop. They're not agents of China or Russia. They're agents of the US ruling class.

wandqueen.bsky.social•8 days ago

Enormously concerning at many levels, including how they used their access to turn off the payments, and of course the effects of doing so.

runningincircles.bsky.social•9 days ago

What's good for the Capo dei Capo in Moscow, is also good for his Dons and their Underbosses.

accountjones9.bsky.social•9 days ago

Nothing. The answer is nothing different.

rgarth.bsky.social•9 days ago

Boys and girls, this is the end of the U.S.A. and the beginning of the U.S.R. R.I.P.

pjgcpg.bsky.social•9 days ago

Let’s remember that both Musk and trump have personal business with China.

askgma.bsky.social•9 days ago

Nothing is forever.

paulie458.bsky.social•8 days ago

They would be enjoying golf and being an asshole.

purplehelmet.bsky.social•9 days ago

ISRAEL!

kmartino.bsky.social•8 days ago

burnstony.bsky.social•9 days ago

💯📌

bkelsey91.bsky.social•9 days ago

With all due respect, the NED is a failed organization.

They famously kept Elise Stefanik on the board after she tried to illegally disenfranchise millions of Americans.

theangryunicorn.bsky.social•8 days ago

https://x.com/realchaosgenius/status/1889464182854001053?s=46

theangryunicorn.bsky.social•8 days ago

https://x.com/realchaosgenius/status/1889464182854001053?s=46

theangryunicorn.bsky.social•8 days ago

Here. Let me help you
https://x.com/mikebenzcyber/status/1827124849141014662?s=46

sfomel.bsky.social•7 days ago

Putin could never forgive NED for helping Ukrainians. “The Maidan demonstrations reflected Ukrainian society’s increased demands and expectations for greater accountability, good governance, freedom of expression and respect for rule of law, all of which have been NED priorities in the country.”

rondomane.bsky.social•9 days ago

"agents of beijing" don't need to lift a finger to let American excellency destroy itself lmfao

stwillis.bsky.social•9 days ago

🛎️🛎️🛎️

We have a winner!

cmkomoroski.bsky.social•9 days ago

Bingo

abellia.bsky.social•9 days ago

Conflating China and Russia is very wrong.

antonioreyesb.bsky.social•9 days ago

THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION
and yet barely gets mentioned by "real journalists" - sometimes hinted at, yes, but mostly eyes averted

radlein.bsky.social•9 days ago

they would probably be a little more careful and subtle if they were

1t2ls.bsky.social•9 days ago

I’ve had this thought so many times.

oracy.bsky.social•8 days ago

President Xi will invade Taiwan now that he sees no real push back. Russia and China have patience. America does not.

Trump & Muck are corrupt and immoral

thatfellaleft.bsky.social•9 days ago

They…are?

finl3y.bsky.social•9 days ago

They are 100% assets to China and Russia. People need to start reporting on it this way instead of being curious about things they’re doing. It makes way more sense because everything they are doing weakens the US and strengthens Russia and China

psychotropicdog.bsky.social•9 days ago

Cui Bono?

lucygoosey70.bsky.social•8 days ago

Does Congress know and are fine with it or are they weak/stupid and trying to enrich themselves while the US crumbles?

carolannete.bsky.social•9 days ago

Bigger question: Why are they so zealously supported by so many people who consider themselves rock-ribbed American patriots?

forestsnow2120.bsky.social•9 days ago

If……

figgityfigs.bsky.social•9 days ago

I keep sayin

spudman.bsky.social•9 days ago

Bc they are agents of Moscow…

merlerip.bsky.social•9 days ago

Ding, ding, ding!!!!

ummagummibear.bsky.social•9 days ago

I think you meant if there were? and the answer would be ... nothing different at all

blackshagreen.bsky.social•8 days ago

Thank you, I've been wondering the same approaching a decade now. None so blind as though who will not see.

disheveledyoshi.bsky.social•9 days ago

I think there’s just no driver: Trump signs what they hand him, and “they” is whoever happens to be there

A lot of the steps to committing crimes look like foreign sabotage (gutting justice apparatus, cutting funds to move to your own contracts, generally disregarding security protocols, etc)

chrisneyland.bsky.social•8 days ago

Why would anyone think they are not?

moose16.bsky.social•8 days ago

It’s so apparent what Musk has done! He was being investigated by many federal agencies! And he figured out how to stopped it! Just give money to stupid Trump! Then he could get in and stop the investigation! Disgusting! He must be kicked out! Before he kills America!

andresschafer.bsky.social•9 days ago

That is precisely the trick! They managed to plant two assets in the White House without even needing to recruit them!

letthemeatbrioche.bsky.social•8 days ago

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

letthemeatbrioche.bsky.social•8 days ago

They are violating our constitutional rights:

https://www.ojp.gov/program/civil-rights-office/filing-civil-rights-complaint

letthemeatbrioche.bsky.social•8 days ago

https://www.usitc.gov/intellectual_property/documents/337_faqs.pdf

https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/international-consumer-protection-privacy

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/enforcement/information-industry-whistleblowers/

https://www.ohchr.org/en/reporting_violations

https://econsumer.gov/?lang=en-US

letthemeatbrioche.bsky.social•8 days ago

alexvanderveur.bsky.social•9 days ago

The benefits to Russia and China definitely need to be talked about more, especially after Dump's call with Putin and Tulsi Gabbard as head of Intelligence.

dah12345.bsky.social•8 days ago

Trump keeps gifting China by driving allies to move away from the US. How does Canada creating stronger ties with China help the US?

wheeliemum.bsky.social•9 days ago

dr-ohm.bsky.social•9 days ago

Absolutely nothing. I think they are working hand in hand with Putin directly.

thedew24.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’re agents for sure; just not secret.

jasonlassiter.bsky.social•9 days ago

The United States is abandoning Europe. Trump wants to dominate North America and let Russia and China dominate Europe and Asia, respectively.

michaelkingram.bsky.social•9 days ago

Quislings gonna Quisling.

slainteteddy.bsky.social•9 days ago

Spending $400 million on Chinese electric armored vehicles instead of Teslas?

mullinshere.bsky.social•9 days ago

I'm pretty sure at least one of them is.

baconpress.bsky.social•9 days ago

Impossible not to be enraged but I have to keep in mind the devastation to individual lives. We’re never going to know their stories but the US is vastly increasing the suffering of men, women and children.

jamesjhare.com•9 days ago

elon needs very badly for the chinese government to do something to help tesla because he's got nothing to offer over chinese EV manufacturers at this point

not sure why they would though

jamesjhare.com•9 days ago

Tesla is basically his entire net worth and that is based on stock values that do not make sense in any reasonable market. It is not worth 5x Toyota in any reasonable market valuation.

bdoggle.bsky.social•9 days ago

Good point.

misshavisham.bsky.social•8 days ago

📌

loosecannon616.bsky.social•9 days ago

It all makes sense if, every time you see some awful/crazy thing Trump does, is to ask yourself “what would be good for Putin? What would he love to see?” And then it all makes sense.

paulaunay.bsky.social•7 days ago

GAGA: Great America’s Gone Away

aisakayku.bsky.social•8 days ago

This Russia card is getting tired

brentcebul.bsky.social•9 days ago

They’re making zones @quinnslobodian.com

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250753892/crackupcapitalism/

nonplussed73.bsky.social•9 days ago

I don’t know if you know of Mike Duncan’s Martian Revolution podcast, but based on the plot, I bet he’s had a gander at your book.

elainelsimon.bsky.social•9 days ago

Yikes

mardukkur.bsky.social•9 days ago

I know that we don't have the irrefutable evidence that these clowns are literal agents of foreign adversaries but the term "irrefutable" is doing a lot of work, and more every day.

bobdunkin.bsky.social•9 days ago

They'd probably be speaking at least a little in Russian or Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese...)

thejasonlee.bsky.social•9 days ago

I wonder what they have to do to get the Congress to stand up. Could they send the military to march on a US city? What if they bombed Gaza? Or attacked Mexico (the Cartels)? I'm trying to imagine what could get Congress to move.

ak-fella.bsky.social•9 days ago

I have been saying that Trump's missioin is to destroy America from within for a while now. It doesn't seem so batshit crazy now, does it?

khiron1416.bsky.social•9 days ago

More people would fall out of windows around them?

kimmasters.bsky.social•9 days ago

Exactly. Except they not be as obvious about it.

kimmasters.bsky.social•9 days ago

Exactly.

neotiamat99.bsky.social•9 days ago

They'd be bragging about it more, I think. That's about it.

mathworkswonders.bsky.social•8 days ago

The caravans have arrived!

And they are in your government stealing your tax money.

mrdickpound69.bsky.social•9 days ago

The CIA-funded fronts do not represent people of Chinese descent anywhere. You libs can keep seething about it.

runningonmt.bsky.social•8 days ago

CCP and Putins oli-thugs laughing all the way to the bank.

runningonmt.bsky.social•8 days ago

They are because end of the day the want business for themselves. Trump and his toddlers invest heavily in China and Elon has huge Tesla sites here and needs China business and its benefits. From a distance it seems America has a prez and govt pillaging gov coffers for personal benefit.

truebluemajority.bsky.social•9 days ago

What would Elmo & MelonFelon47 be doing differently if they weren't actual agents of Beijing & Moscow?

We'll never know, since they ARE actual agents doing the bidding of hostile foreign governments & can't behave any other way!

Keep shouting that into the wind. Maybe more folks will catch on...

ravenna321.bsky.social•9 days ago

I'd like to know how the GOPs in Congress explain to themselves that what's happening is not a fascist coup. Reporters need to grill them, future access be damned. Congress is being derelict in its duty to rein this in and is now complicit in everything that happens. And they know it.

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