Okay what is going on here. Are the accounts at a private banking entity? Does the federal government have direct debit permission set up? So many questions as to how Treasury instructed this payment. (Via NY Post’s Craig McCarthy)
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1) Per a friend that works in NY state government, NY cities are required to hold funds in commercial banks. So this was a private bank account, not one controlled by Treasury.
2) Per NYDN the inbound wire was dated Feb 4; wires are one-way, they can't just be undone a week later.
Wire transfers and ACH payments can be recalled. The receiving bank doesn't have to return the funds but when it's the Federal government requesting the funds be returned banks aren't really in position to say no.
Ask what your bank is doing to protect your accounts from being illegally accessed by the federal government- the customer service rep will not know or have an answer, but ask them to log it so the leaders know we are looking to our banking institutions for a statement
Doesn’t hurt to also casually mention the potential of withdrawing your funds from your checking/savings account to keep that money on hand so you know it is safe
They can. My mother's bank account received a social security payment after she passed. When I got around to notifying the SSA they had the funds electronically reversed.
the treasury doesn't have bank accounts, it can't "hold" money. that was dollars in the economy in the NYC accounts and they just snapped it out of existence.
Who touched that money illegally?
Someone pushed that button.
Feb 4th it is Feb 12th?????? What account did the money go back to Musk or DT private funds?
This is bad.
Adams giving this warning to his staff is also bad.
"On Monday, Adams convened a meeting with his own top officials to urge them to not speak badly about the president in public, saying that if they were to do so, it could risk federal funding."
Trump and Musk are criminals, and one has been granted immunity by the Supreme Court. Looking for a possible "legal" explanation is a waste of energy and part of how we got here.
The other question is what can NYC do about it? The mayor can’t do anything, he needs the feds to not indict him. Seems like NYC is probably a wholly owned entity of the Trump administration in this situation.
Even if the Treasury had debit authority over the City's accounts, I'm sure there are very limited circumstances under which it could actually claw-back funds, and I'll be shocked if an *entire* disbursement can be clawed back for any reason.
Not necessarily, but that's one of the possibilities. I would be *very* cautious about assuming that without significant evidence pointing towards it which we don't have at the moment.
Whether it was an escrow account or not, the federal government cannot come in and take the funds without due process. The question is, given Adams’ compromised position legally, will he do anything, or pay the extortion?
I still don't understand how the payment, which I assume was a fedwire due to its size, was "reversed". That's not really possible, even by the Treasury (fedwire is managed by the New York Federal Reserve Bank, not the Treasury).
Not clear on the $12.50 per hotel-night cap.
Is that the max NY can pay, or is it just the limit for reimbursement per night regardless of what NY paid?
Adams will stand up for Adams. I bet he switches parties. He made his Maraloco pilgrimage & was awarded his pardon, so he now owes trump. In his presser yesterday after denying any wrongdoing, he went out quoting scripture like all good GOP criminals. If he doesn't switch, he's officially a DINO.
The Mayor’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is the City of New York’s chief financial agency. OMB's staff of more than 400 analysts assemble and oversee both the expense budget (Fiscal Year 2023 $101.1 billion) and capital budget (Fiscal Year 2023 Adopted Capital Budget $14.3 billion).
ACH guidelines allow a reversal within 5 business days of settlement. That suggests to me that this was a "reversal" in the technical sense, given funds were credited to the NYC account Feb 4 and debited on Feb 11 (5 business days later).
So OMB either co-owned this account or was able to reverse payment with an allotted time period (5 days), thus as shitty as this is, it looks to be legal, correct?
Minus, of course, the fact that Congress appropriated these funds & POTUS is not allowed to withhold them. (See his 1st impeachment. )
Digging through federal regs and the standing rule, they have to make a reasonable effort to notify the account holder of a reversal and explain why it was made. This seems to have been something they didn't want to do, but they reversed themselves after the NPRM on ACH transactions.
this looks like it would be fraudulent as well, in the sense that while it might be _ostensibly_ for one of the five reasons listed on that page, we _all know_ that it's for reasons of politics and MK-ULTRA drugs
When working with the tRUmp administration, if you have to use a direct deposit account to receive funds, move the money to a disbursal account ASAP. Also:
All of them. Especially Republicans. I'm always polite but stern, often leave a voicemail that the staff hopefully listen to. If anything, the staff will hear you even if they don't. You can look their office numbers up on https://congress.gov
"In the account" means that the state retained control of the funds. Unless the USG is a joint holder of the account, this is theft. And the bank abetted the crime.
Musk made his money as part of the "PayPal mafia". He knows our banking system links intimately. Musk/Trump can now revoke contracted, legally obligated intergovernmental transfers at well. Imagine losing the social security payment you paid for working all your life because MAGA doesn't like you?
Running a wire transaction backwards is uncommon, but possible. This is usually reserved for instances of human error or fraud, but fundamentally it’s something the sending bank can initiate unilaterally, at their own discretion, if they think doing so is warranted. https://managry.com/define/reverse-wire/
Had a employer reverse payment fully a week after my paycheck went in, once. Entity was being dissolved, so I wasn't able to contact anyone about it. Wound up getting a paper check, but had I been older, I would have sought legal repercussions against the bank. Blatantly illegal.
Yeah, an ACH sender *can* reverse any Credit. If the money is in the account, the RDFI bank has to pay it back. But there’s very limited circumstances for that under NACHA. The Treasury is under different rules, but I’m guessing it’s not allowed under their rules either.
I couldn’t find that it was a wire on the linked page. An ACH Credit could be in that amount and, since credit is immediately given, it could be colloquially called a wire.
It might depend on how the contracts are structured but the ones I worked with have it explicitly have it in a commercial account with the feds having the ability to ask for a wire back only under very specific circumstances. Outside those, the bank is violating its agreement with its customer.
Even in this speculative scenario, the most element was made by a Treasury appointee/civil servant or, alternatively, by a DOGEr. If the later, there's no legitimacy.
I'm waiting to find out that if they enter a negative sign in front of the amount they pay you in their computer system set up in the 1970s, it allows them to pull money out instead of send it to you.
"Earlier that same day, Adams convened a meeting with his own top officials to urge them to not speak badly about the president in public, saying that if they were to do so, it could risk federal funding."
No it isn't lol. It's certainly possible Adams instructed someone to wire the money back, but if that was the case why didn't the Comptroller know about it, for example.
right but the Treasury can't just "take" money from a third party account without breaking a huge number of laws. they need debit authority like anyone else.
If the DOGE freaks have some unknown method for initiating wire transfers of private bank accounts they shouldn't have any control over that's a massive problem.
The government has always had the ability to debit an account that received ACH payment from the Treasury.
They do it when a person who dies receives a Soc Security payment before SSA can be notified.
“Joe Biden’s Administration,” how about Texas governor Greg Abbott, and the other Republican governors who sent the migrants on buses to blue cities? Tell it like it is Mayor Eric.
The Treasury can deposit and withdraw funds from US domiciled bank accounts without friction. All US banks are connected to the Treasury by law - it is a condition of possessing a banking license. No bank questions Treasury transactions, the have priority over all other transactions.
I don't know Jack about foreign bank accounts. About 20 years ago I had all my savings in an American bank that failed. Went tits up. I was made whole within 2 days due to FDIC insurance, which all federally chartered US carry. So at this time I think American banks are safe.
The agency cuts are “small” (in terms of the overall amount; huge in terms of impact, RIP USAID) and the tax cuts they want are just super super super huge.
Social Security took 3 months of my Dad’s Social Security payments out of his joint account after his death certificate inaccurately stated his death was 3 months prior to his actual death. They gave no notice - just took the money. I figured something like this $80 million reclamation was coming.
The same Judge McConnell they're mad at just said that "withholding" the FEMA funds isn't subject to his TRO. What that means about taking back funds already distributed...I need some clarification. Or, I suspect, we *all* do.
Sorta. You can theoretically initiate a wire reversal. You (private party) generally can’t get away with it that long after the transaction, but I suspect the Feds can probably do what they want since it happens over Fedwire
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Many years ago, Morgan Stanley repeatedly lost my W-8 form & I had proceeds from stock options sale in my account at the #RoyalBank of CANADA. Downtown head office Toronto, the gold building. There was $55,000 there one day, gone the next. I found the IRS had yanked it from my Canadian account. 1/3
I walked into the bank, asked a teller where my money was, he said the IRS had withdrawn it. Very loudly (that place is cavernous), I shouted: YOU LOST MY MONEY? You let agents of a foreign government come in and remove FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS of mine, and take it to a foreign country?"... 2/3
Starting to look like our social security will disappear in much the same manner. It'll be used to prop up doge and crypto as well as payments to themselves.
We have much more if they can suck it out of our “commie” blue state accounts, but I’d say they’re more likely just to come up the work so we never get it
Maybe we shouldn’t be making light of these mini-Elons and their hacker skills..
It's a betrayal of trust; oaths to obey the law; simple human decency. These people are not afraid to hurt people. Even more disturbing is the thought that they welcome the opportunity to demonstrate their power and ruthlessness.
Yes and #PresidentMusk and his 6 19-25 year old criminal hackers!
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So that Private commercial server best be Deleted!
What is the State AG doing about this? If it's illegal, then go after Trump and Musk. We know Trump has property holdings in NYC, what about Musk? Or anyone associated with these actions?
I don’t know about “Doctors’s offices“ but the IRS goes through a legal process in order to access a private account to withdraw funds.
Just like a county going after a dead beat Dad.
Pulling FEMA funds back in the dead of night? Not so much.
I live in Los Angeles. We’re next.
Remember when that pallet of US cash money just disappeared in Iraq during George W. Bush’s administration? The theft that is now occurring and will continue to occur will boggle the minds of ordinary people.
Dies thus mean that the money in our personal bank a counts is also at risk if tge administration thinks we have countervened an executive order now or in the past?
I’m in the process of closing the account associated with my past tax returns. It’s an account/bank that I was looking to move from, so this was the push.
With the data they have, this is the same as someone walking into your home, walking out with your ID, SSN & debit card, then driving over to the bank & threatening to drain your account, leaving the door open for their buddies. DITTO for every SSN in the Treasury's system. Just for starters.
I got a call from an employee that they wanted to stop paying into social security because “Elon Musk was stealing it.” I told her, we can’t do that. But jeez, at this point, is he? Who the hell knows!
they’re saying “watch me”
What will the courts do?
They seem to be Creating constitutional crises left and right.
Wait strike that last bit. Ha
So, we’re at the “Reichstag Fire” now. What comes next? Oh that’s right. The Decree.
See “How to become a dictator in 30 days or less”
When the Colorado Dept of Revenue drained my BofA bank account in Florida for mistaken(someone transposed 2 digits of a SSN) income tax underpayment, when I hadn’t lived or worked in CO in 20 years, I learned that any state and the feds can do this. No subpoena needed.
I was at my bank today and I heard the manager talking that people are pulling their money and leaving just enough to pay their bills. It was an answer to a question why did the CD rates go back up.
Would be GREAT if we had an FBI or U.S. Marshals that actually gave a shit anymore.
Any of the rest of us would be arrested so fast our heads would spin.
If Mayor Eric Adams somehow allowed Trump/Elon to snatch back federal funds that were legally disbursed to nyc and sitting in a bank account in order to keep favor and avoid a federal prosecution…corrupt and illegal is the least of it.
I know that Medicare when you die, if you've received a payment a few days before can remove the amount from your checking account. Musk must have a similar type of access. Not legal though IMO since that FEMA $ was appropriated by Congress. Truly Congress needs to remove #Muskrat now.
I mean, that sounds exactly like a Peter Thiel thought in that that is the entire idea right there. No further thoughts on the potential ramifications need be considered.
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States need to hold our federal tax dollars in escrow. If the fed govt refuses to keep its word, they don't get the money and we take up the slack at the state level for what we can.
If they aren't going to spend the money as promised, they do not get the money.
Anyone who gets a Social Security check has "debit permissions" set up. If you die mid-month, the government takes back your Social Security payment because you weren't alive for a full month. I don't know how FEMA works but people should know that the government can take back their money.
My husband died 7-8-16. 4 days later they pulled his social security check out of the bank while I was paying the bills. It took 6 months to get it back. I had to borrow money from his sister so I could eat & keep the power on. The system is designed to penalize the poor. We don't have extra money.
Another good reason to pull your money out of the bank right now, if you keep it there. The only thing keeping it safe is the “safety guarantee of the US Treasury”… which should go without saying, means nothing now.
The bigger question remains; whether the funds show up back in the Treasuries pre-distribution account OR if another Treasury account was created by Musk and these funds were deposited there?
If I hear 1 more Republican bitch about how people in South Carolina & Florida didn't get money after hurricanes when two Russian assets just robbed our country to send money to their overlord I might lose it.
It was money that the federal government had likely electronically deposited in that bank about in the first place, so they’d definitely have the account number. That being said, yes, they do have all of our bank account numbers…
To be clear, if the feds have ever deposited anything into your bank account or if you ever mailed them a check, they’d have your account #. They’ve just never used it in nefarious ways before today.
Well I can give some context base on what the IRS can do. The IRS can issue a levy on bank accounts...BUT...not without, appeal rights and due process. No notification or legal actions would be illegal for the IRS to do that. I can only assume that Treasury has the same process and notifications.
but if they wheeled a snot-nosed 19 year old with ChatGPT on his phone in, in order to pull those levers directly without any sort of paper trail at the orders of an agency that isn't creating any paper trail at all
If they have the ability to do it, the law doesn't matter anymore, rules and regs are out, they don't care about procedures or due process, and they ignore court orders. Need to scream that louder for the people in the back, we're in crisis critical
Do you see muskrat currently following ANY other rules, due process, etc.? If the ability is there don’t put it past him to use it, and believe “I AM the law now!”
I have made numerous replies on here about what is happening at my CU with their T&C related to electronic banking.It's NOT good. (60 pages in just one section and I had 10 concerns by end of page 2).Branch can't access file either.🤔CU may be insured differently but they are still federally backed.
I’m not going to be lectured by you or anyone else. I don’t just willy-nilly go around calling people names; it takes a particularly dire circumstance for me to do that. And this is a dire circumstance that calls for plain language.
And when you write the GOP senators this is what you get: Form letters. However, it is clear they will follow 45 dictates. Remember this for voting purposes!
Well, that can't be categorically true. First of all the payment received the month of the death is not for that month, but for the month before. So as long as the notification of death was done immediately, there's no reason for clawback: https://www.usa.gov/social-security-report-a-death
That's not how it actually works. The beneficiary must request a refund. It happens every day. Guaranteed. There's an entire process people have to go through to be month of death checks
In order to receive partial payment to the estate for the month of death, which would otherwise have been paid out the month *following* the death, yes, there is a form to fill out https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-1724.html . (We opted not to do that with my mom's estate because it would have been so little )
But more importantly, it's not categorically true ('any time' meaning 'every time') because my mom died early this June and Social Security was notified right away, and they did not reclaim the payment. One counterexample disproves a categorical.
Local officials report DODs to SSA and major credit bureaus. This is is reported to Treasury. Treasury immediately cancels payments after DOD, whether or not that payment is due.
No. If the Treasury disbursed the funds. The paying agency deems payment is invalid. Treasury removes payment from the bank on order from the agency. Period. Bank complies. Period.
They are going to take ALL of the money. Everyone's. I predict a new cashless currency will be rolled out in the next three months. An implanted chip - maybe in your hand, that contains your personal information and whatever assets you are allowed to keep - after a loyalty oath to Musk, of course.
Does that ring a bell? Anyone? The "Christians" will be the first in line to get one. If they're giddily throwing Nazi salutes around, they'll take a little jab in the hand.
I wonder if this was part of the supposed "billions and billions of dollars in waste fraud and abuse" that Trump spoke about during the video yesterday?
He's gotten $18 Billion in USAID since 2016 so something tells me his paying his mini-mes out of pocket or knowing him their unpaid interns vying for a chance to be one of his personal assistants.
New York statutes provide state prosecutors the ability to pursue criminal charges for crimes related to bank fraud as well. State law allows for the prosecution of a scheme to defraud, or any attempt to defraud another or obtain...
Since this crime took place in New York, NY, & the perpetrator is known, it is now the job of the Manhattan District Attorney & the New York State Attorney General to order the arrest of Elon Musk.
If they do anything they will be sued by the DOJ. The US are so fucking screwed.... And all allies by extension. Better start learning Chinese and Russian.
See, here's the cool thing. Musk was given access to the Treasury systems. So yes, there are likely piles of accounts that he now has access to. "But it's illegal!" Sure is. So a court issues a warrant... then what? Who arrests him? Federal Marshals. Who controls them? DOJ - oh.
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Oh but Musk home bros were accidentally given read/write access instead of just read access to so many agencies, your bank was probably accidentally included. As Musk himself said he's going to say things that are not true bec, you know, he's only human.
ACH debits are based on a trust system for the ACH originator. Proof permission for a debit isn't required until it is called into question by the ODFI due to a claim of a fraudulent debit.
Most accounts don't have ACH positive pay setup which would require positive approval of a debit.
Surely you’re aware that this is the money that was misappropriated/stolen from FEMA to New York to pay for the 5 star hotel for illegals. Trump and the Treasury are simply getting their money back.
I would imagine it will go to the North Carolina flood victims that it was originally intended for.
I can’t help but think that this, and all the Ex O’s that have been ruled illegal by the courts (so far), is exactly what one would predict when the Supreme Court rules a President is above the law; and then a convicted fraudster gets elected. Is this what they intended to happen?
If you have account information for someone, I believe you can pretty much run an ACH or a wire into or out of that account. I think all you need is routing number and account number.
It's assumed that if you are initiating a transfer from a trusted institution then you aren't committing fraud.
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Clawbacks require following a legal process for recoupment, requires evidence of documents and legal procedures. Why would a bank be so quick to violate the rules? What was the threat?
Good finally musk will face state charges. That might put him in pre trial detention. Find out if any of the boys were participants & charge them as well.
This is the moment it starts being like die hard three. The one where they staged a fake bomb threat in order to get into the federal reserve building in New York and steel gold buillon.
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1) Per a friend that works in NY state government, NY cities are required to hold funds in commercial banks. So this was a private bank account, not one controlled by Treasury.
2) Per NYDN the inbound wire was dated Feb 4; wires are one-way, they can't just be undone a week later.
Ask what your bank is doing to protect your accounts from being illegally accessed by the federal government- the customer service rep will not know or have an answer, but ask them to log it so the leaders know we are looking to our banking institutions for a statement
Someone pushed that button.
Feb 4th it is Feb 12th?????? What account did the money go back to Musk or DT private funds?
Adams giving this warning to his staff is also bad.
"On Monday, Adams convened a meeting with his own top officials to urge them to not speak badly about the president in public, saying that if they were to do so, it could risk federal funding."
Maybe this was an account where Treasury had debit authority for some reason (perhaps as a condition of FEMA funding disbursals.
Maybe this was a joint escrow account of some kind.
Almost all other possibilities involve significant criminality.
They're not hiding from it.
QQs:
• Are both ACH payments and wire transfers vulnerable like this?
• Can they do this to my Social Security deposit?
But this situation isn’t.
"It's sort of like when a credit card company reverses a charge" (WHAT?! Not how wires work?!)
Lander doesn't know which bank the account was with (seems important).
There's a paper trail somewhere.
Is that the max NY can pay, or is it just the limit for reimbursement per night regardless of what NY paid?
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47681
Here's some of the details with footnote links to 40 other documents.
(STILL not quite sure how to interpret)
https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program/ssp-a/fy-24-faqs
If he doesn’t by COB today, here’s the cover for Hochul to remove the Mayor!
If the only things standing in the way are “the optics” or “respecting the democratic process”, those concerns fly out the window here.
Is he referring to the federal Office of Management & Budget? Or a New York State entity?
If it's the former, then OMB would likely have operational control of the account to instruct a payment. But Lander's explanation isn't clear.
Minus, of course, the fact that Congress appropriated these funds & POTUS is not allowed to withhold them. (See his 1st impeachment. )
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When working with the tRUmp administration, if you have to use a direct deposit account to receive funds, move the money to a disbursal account ASAP. Also:
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What’s more likely, a complicated escrow account that allowed this or the rich assholes breaking every law broke the law again?
I mean that's pretty straightforward.
They do it when a person who dies receives a Soc Security payment before SSA can be notified.
But this is just outright theft.
That seems important here.
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"One moment, Sir, I will get the manager."
About a minute delay and then another man appeared and said:
"Your money will be back in your account by morning."
It was. I assume #RBC took a loss on that.
Maybe we shouldn’t be making light of these mini-Elons and their hacker skills..
Not cleared! Full Read Write access once connected! They are Hackers!
So that Private commercial server best be Deleted!
Insurance companies do the same to Drs offices
The way of the world
Just like a county going after a dead beat Dad.
Pulling FEMA funds back in the dead of night? Not so much.
I live in Los Angeles. We’re next.
nor are cu’s safe.
wish i knew what to do with my money.
I’m in the process of closing the account associated with my past tax returns. It’s an account/bank that I was looking to move from, so this was the push.
They now just do whatever they want, like in Türkiye, or Russia, or ...
What will the courts do?
They seem to be Creating constitutional crises left and right.
Wait strike that last bit. Ha
So, we’re at the “Reichstag Fire” now. What comes next? Oh that’s right. The Decree.
See “How to become a dictator in 30 days or less”
Any of the rest of us would be arrested so fast our heads would spin.
Reading this makes me feel sick, disgusted & hopeless. Of course the GOP will rationalize this theft? 😳😭
Have anything to do with it?
You needed to look in the New York Section.
This issue seems a little bigger than just New York section
The Muskrat bought our US Government, the national treasury, and our nuclear arsenal from the lawless fascist MAGA Republicans.
The Democratics just sat by and watched!
Welcome to the Corporate kingdom of America.
Ready to be a wage slave in a private equity owned dictatorship???
https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/statement-from-nyc-comptroller-lander-on-the-trump-administrations-illegal-reversal-of-fema-funding/
congressionally- appropriated FEMA funding from New York City’s bank accounts late yesterday afternoon."
He has the SSN and bank account info of every person or entity that has ever interacted with the federal government in any way.
And the ability to change how those systems function with no restrictions or oversight.
Why was FEMA paying NY for migrant housing?
Being a sanctuary was their decision alone.
Wake up - you are mid-coup.
If they aren't going to spend the money as promised, they do not get the money.
Elon can use his own fuckin money.
We will be seeing more of this.
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They are going the FDIC
And on a weekend, turn every Americans life saving into mass civil unrest to invoke martial law
I can keep going
What is the likelihood they will be able access private individuals bank accounts❓ You know, like mine or yours❓
Robbing NYC of previously allocated and Congressionally authorized FEMA funds. F Musk and F DOGE.
The FDIC is an independent federal agency that insures depositors for certain account types, up to $250,000, at more than 4,500 member banks.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/12/fdic-insurance-treasury-trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/nyregion/danielle-sassoon-quit-eric-adams.html
Props to Ms. Sassoon, Mr. Driscoll, and Mr. Keller for refusing to go along with this squeeze.
What the literal hell?
Who do these people think they are? 3 weeks...he fucking said just day 1.
WE TOLD THEM SO!!!!
For some reason, that doesn't make this feel better.
I'll bet all I have nothing like this happens to and RED voting cities or areas! Regardless of the program,....
fucking insane.
New York statutes provide state prosecutors the ability to pursue criminal charges for crimes related to bank fraud as well. State law allows for the prosecution of a scheme to defraud, or any attempt to defraud another or obtain...
Will they do their jobs?
This is so many kinds of illegal. And destabilizing for the economy.
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ACH debits are based on a trust system for the ACH originator. Proof permission for a debit isn't required until it is called into question by the ODFI due to a claim of a fraudulent debit.
Most accounts don't have ACH positive pay setup which would require positive approval of a debit.
I would imagine it will go to the North Carolina flood victims that it was originally intended for.
But I do believe notice is required but if not it has always been done for companies I have worked for.
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It's assumed that if you are initiating a transfer from a trusted institution then you aren't committing fraud.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48243#:~:text=When%20grantees%20are%20not%20compliant,money%20that%20was%20paid%20improperly.