lol I'm sorry, but the idea that Chinese groceries are "high quality" is fucking hilarious. China has a famously bad food storage chain and the Chinese press and public are full of constant complaints! Food poisoning/diarrhea are so common that they're a regular work excuse. - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

beijingpalmer.bsky.social • 48 days ago

lol I'm sorry, but the idea that Chinese groceries are "high quality" is fucking hilarious. China has a famously bad food storage chain and the Chinese press and public are full of constant complaints! Food poisoning/diarrhea are so common that they're a regular work excuse.

Reposted from Erica Wilkinson

Because the US gov't has spent 30 years telling us how horrible China is, but....their groceries are cheap, high quality, and plentiful (they're eating lobster and crab on a Monday at lunch, not an anniversary dinner). Their jobs provide incredible, varied, healthy lunches and an hour to eat them..

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oldohman.bsky.social•48 days ago

Is the original poster conflating China with Japan? Reads like it.

xanadian.bsky.social•47 days ago

OP seems to be reporting on the impression new American users of a Chinese app are getting from the app, though that isn't as clear as it could be until the end

queencryptid.bsky.social•47 days ago

All else aside, have they never stepped foot in an Asian market in North America or Europe? Because the things they say they want, you can actually already get.

tjmzj.bsky.social•48 days ago

Even if there weren’t massive—ahem—distortions of fact in that thread, the way the OP highlights the lifestyle of *social media influencers* as representative of Chinese people in general is fucking hilarious.

rusty-nail.bsky.social•47 days ago

This while thread reads like a propaganda paper written by a CCP controlled LLM. «The US. is banning the propaganda tool that I’m addictes to, that also has obviously broken my brain»

clflngthjnshrts.bsky.social•48 days ago

Someone on here just blithely stated China has free health care! Didn't do five seconds of checking. I assume their heuristic is If not_America, Then Free_Healthcare.

danifroom.bsky.social•48 days ago

glub glub glub these worms are delicious hey what's this barbed hook doing in here
https://bsky.app/profile/everywhereerica.bsky.social/post/3lfpiqrkcaj23

jcc333.bsky.social•48 days ago

But climate change. Makes you think huh?

danifroom.bsky.social•47 days ago

I'm going to jump out a window

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jcc333.bsky.social•47 days ago

What rubs me the wrongest way here is the implication that she sure hated Chinese people before this?

danifroom.bsky.social•47 days ago

From her timeline it doesn't look like she's ever cared or worried about anyone other than herself

spicybonuscontent.bsky.social•48 days ago

This is a very rich text but it's "anniversary crab" that puts it over the top.

justingwallace.bsky.social•48 days ago

My best friends parents went to China and got sick so often from the food they started buying their own and washing them in bleach prior to overcooking them before consumption.

What a brain-dead comment.

joebaldwin.me.uk•48 days ago

It reminds me of those people who see pictures of North Korean grocery stores that are full of produce (which are naturally not staged or fake at all) and come to the conclusion that the general world consensus that North Korea is a repressive, impoverished basket case is all imperial lies.

scassian.bsky.social•48 days ago

I was more struck by her claims about healthcare. Which demonstrate beyond any doubts she’s never had to access any significant healthcare in China.

insidejoke.bsky.social•48 days ago

I do not understand why "everyone is lying to us about China" has suddenly become a meme. The vast majority of things I see people from the Government say about China is that they're going to overtake us, all the media I've seen recently regarding China makes them out to be high tech and exotic

jdkessey.bsky.social•47 days ago

Its due to crankish elements on the left wing. Anything critical of the country is seen as manufacturing consent while anything that uplifts China is seen as not needing to be critiqued.

elkmovie.bsky.social•48 days ago

If you're going to extol the virtues of cheap food in China to Americans, you'd be better off talking about, say, ordering ridiculously cheap Lanzhou noodles at a mall food court with a QR code

elkmovie.bsky.social•48 days ago

The *tourist* case for China as a place where it's relatively easy and cheap to eat well is strong, the argument that the food situation in China is a paradise for citizens is somewhat less so

rettopnoj.bsky.social•48 days ago

Chinese people in Australia ship powdered milk home by the bucketful for their relatives because you can't get it there without arsenic in it or something.

chbarts.bsky.social•48 days ago

The famous case was melamine.

> Melamine gained infamy because Chinese food producers added it to baby formula in order to increase the apparent protein content.

dhpljm266.bsky.social•48 days ago

Relatedly: killed lots of American cats with similar protein-test cheating practices

dhpljm266.bsky.social•48 days ago

Probably Canadian ones too? Since I think the factory the tainted stuff was shipped to was in Ontario, maybe?

thestinkfoot.bsky.social•47 days ago

Wow that whole thread is just an insane propaganda screed about a country where the typical work week is literally 72 hours and you get disappeared if you complain.

justin-the-baron.swifties.social•47 days ago

the rednote thing is great and i love sticking it to meta/twitter, but lmao at the one post that handwaves away the ongoing Uyghur genocide and the Tiananmen Square massacre because of the patriot act....sort of let the brainrot tankie mask slip

jmalkin.bsky.social•47 days ago

I liked the other comment about their health care being provided.

When my in-laws moved here they were amazed at the medical facilities in the US and the level of attention from doctors. And without needing to camp out at a hospital all day in hopes of getting to see one.

gilmored85.bsky.social•48 days ago

I love "they have crab on a Monday at lunch" as if its some sort of inconceivable thing for Americans rather than something we can easily do as well in basically any city here of even moderate size and for a reasonable price to boot.

beatorganizer.bsky.social•48 days ago

Just saw a catering tray of fresh cooked shrimp cocktail for $10 at the grocery store. What are we doing here?

hollyphantpants.bsky.social•47 days ago

Yeah, crab is just not a traditional lunch food in the USA.

bigseb31213.bsky.social•47 days ago

Americans just eat a less seafood and thus demand is lower and prices are higher

And here in Philadelphia during blue crab season half a dozen dive bars near my house will serve it

ermdracula.com•48 days ago

Yeah, lobster mac n cheese and crab cakes are pretty ubiquitous for a reasonable price at any coastal city, basically?

terencelau.bsky.social•47 days ago

My common lunch (Shanghai 15 years of residence) was rice with eggplant and pork.

mortalwombat.info•48 days ago

Well

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buckrawheat.bsky.social•48 days ago

Yeah that'll do it

trowelblister.bsky.social•48 days ago

Did she miss all the prep about melamine in baby formula or dog food?

christianh.bsky.social•48 days ago

fellow student of mine from China has her mom asking for German/Canadian milkpowder whenever she comes home because she doesn't sufficiently trust a shelf stable ingredient...
(I presume it dates back to the old Melamine scandal or something)

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

this reminds me of when - quite commonly - I saw pro-American internet posters in China praising American healthcare because 'you can't turn anyone away at the ER'

rowyourbot.bsky.social•47 days ago

Americans can have great healthcare if you can get into the hospital, and be treated. It’s afterwards when you can have the big problems, if you’re not a multi-millionaire.

jackwaltimore.bsky.social•48 days ago

Chinese healthcare is the nexus of my irritation with the online left.

If y'all wanna shift gears from Scandinavia porn to PLA tankie cosplay, then you don't get to keep the moral high ground of Scandinavian social democracy...

la2054cd.bsky.social•47 days ago

I mean, to be fair, the Maoist era’s public health & barefoot doctor programs spurred one of the most rapid life expectancy gains in history. But w Opening and Reform, the govnt flew in Milton Friedman to advise on privatizing the medical sector, and they have all the problems we do.

la2054cd.bsky.social•47 days ago

You don’t have to be a Mao apologist or PLA tankie (I am neither), nor paper over the atrocities of the CCP, to acknowledge that social and economic rights work to shore up health.

jctenton.bsky.social•48 days ago

i don't know how many people convinced themselves china has UHC either. i guess they just thought oh communists it must be government healthcare?

jackwaltimore.bsky.social•48 days ago

China's violent national ambitions to defeat capitalism create the permission structure for them to fail their citizens on every level. That's just basic Maoism.

igneoussigil.bsky.social•47 days ago

They've sure got a lot of billionaires and state capitalism for a country that wants to defeat capitalism.

cuddlessmash.bsky.social•48 days ago

I don't even think they want to defeat capitalism, given that their explicit and promoted value proposition to the world stage is "We take every effort to underpay our labor so you can buy cheap shit from us"

jackwaltimore.bsky.social•48 days ago

The CCP actually wants to defeat white people but I sound like an asshole if I say that out loud.

jkfecke.bsky.social•48 days ago

They read somewhere that every other nation has free government health care and didn't bother to verify it.

yoqueray.bsky.social•48 days ago

The 'foreigner approved' big city hospitals - at least the BJ ones - are pretty disappointing. Not as nightmarish as the rest, but far from what I'd call 'acceptable' standards. Spending more than one day in a Chinese hospital would be gut wrenching - as in, producing fight or flight feelings.

jctenton.bsky.social•48 days ago

they were pretty bad in chengdu too. i had to protest when getting some required blood test for the nurse to get a fresh needle out of a package instead of the random one lying around on the desk

bigseb31213.bsky.social•47 days ago

in general the Chinese government is anti welfare to an extent that would make American conservatives uncomfortable

matthewjohnson.bsky.social•47 days ago

I spent a night in a Zimbabwean medical clinic almost dying and at one point the doctor asked if I wanted to be moved to the hospital because I, as an American, am used to the best healthcare in the world.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Some night?

ohdeerthermos.bsky.social•48 days ago

What does emergency medicine look like then?

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

trying to get healthcare even in emergency situations is a mixture of triage needs, ability to pay, and ability to shout and push loudest.

ohdeerthermos.bsky.social•48 days ago

Just trying to understand, but triage/wait times in ERs are a huge problem in the US too. Is it just a difference of scale/commonality?

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

Imagine the US system, but if you can't show evidence of ability to pay you get turned away from the ER room (instead of being billed a horrendous amount later, ofc), and that every doctor is surrounded by a dozen patients or relatives shouting at them.

davedc.bsky.social•47 days ago

So it's like a loudness auction for emergency medical care?

chrst3x.bsky.social•47 days ago

People studying to become a doctor in China truly are saints...

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

people are really quite stupid and vulnerable to propaganda, from whichever direction.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

But Palmer she's a travel agent for rich people 😬

convolver.bsky.social•47 days ago

We also should talk about her characterization of the Chinese health care system, which is … optimistically superficial, let’s say.

presidentgoku.bsky.social•48 days ago

i'm just so tired of libs having the most worthless propaganda machines. we should have the best propaganda machines

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

the refrigeration rate of chinese agricultural goods transported for sale is about 50 percent nowadays and that's a considerable *improvement*

theodora.bsky.social•48 days ago

I remember rat meat kebabs and reused cooking oil being perennial scandals when I was there.

br2.bsky.social•48 days ago

Live chickens in a plastic storage bin next to the restaurant table you sat at

theodora.bsky.social•48 days ago

I mean, to be fair, like fishing for your dinner in Carrefour, that's pretty damn fresh food.

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

even if you're the type of person who believes that everything is "US propaganda" the Chinese press reports regularly on the food quality scandals! the party has a special exclusive supply chain for themselves!

number137.bsky.social•48 days ago

you mean like that scandal when Chinese baby formula got cut with melamine 🤔

jmalkin.bsky.social•47 days ago

And exported pet food.

At least HepA outbreaks are much less common now

justostrich.com•47 days ago

Honestly not even. Watch any mainlander wash their vegetables and you'll notice that they soak them in water for an extended period of time. "To remove the chemicals" is what is often said.

thomas.escritt.eu•48 days ago

WHAT?? How does it work?

lauraclemens.bsky.social•47 days ago

Tegong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadre_system_of_the_Chinese_Communist_Party

thomas.escritt.eu•47 days ago

That’s somehow so infuriating

mateyush.bsky.social•47 days ago

I'll never forget getting my drivers license in Shanghai and behind the desk at the DMV was a trolley piled high with Driscolls (fancy US brand) strawberries and blueberries.

adrianwashere.bsky.social•47 days ago

I have no baseline for that. What percentage of agricultural goods transported for sale in, say, the US are refrigerated? 100%? And what goods does that include? Produce? Meat? Poultry? Eggs? Dairy? Grains? Surely, eg, wheat, rice, etc, aren't refrigerated in transit, right? So not 100% then? Help!

thejeffbyrnes.com•47 days ago

The stat is pointing out that only half of the food requiring refrigeration in China is actually kept cool on its journey.

It’s really common to see refrigerated transport in the USA, so it wouldn’t shock me if something close to 100% of foods needing cooling are refrigerated in transit.

cassiewasright.bsky.social•47 days ago

May I suggest Frostbite by Nicola Twilley?
https://www.nicolatwilley.com/frostbite/
(The short answer is...most fresh produce and almost all meat and dairy is refrigerated in the US. It's not just refrigerated trucks but entire networks of refrigerated warehouses and shipping containers.)

thejeffbyrnes.com•47 days ago

Thanks! Yeah I kinda knew this, but only in a vague vibes way, so I appreciate you adding some concrete info!

adrianwashere.bsky.social•47 days ago

Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

Also, gross.

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•47 days ago

That's as a percentage of what could/should be refrigerated, not of everything. Basically the rate *should* be about double what it is - but that's up considerably from even 2017, when it was 20%, after a big push.

Here's another useful metric! (the key weakness here is trucking)

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thedude1.bsky.social•48 days ago

I feel like that's from when Shanghai was starving during a Covid lockdown, people were making excuses that it was because the supply chain was "super fresh"

omfproductions.bsky.social•48 days ago

The sad things is seeing like the best 30% in pictures on the internet is all it takes to persuade a non-trivial number of people that the other 70% is not real.... sigh.

royx.bsky.social•47 days ago

clearly refrigeration is liberal bourgeois decadence. Real proles have strong stomachs and do not get tummy aches like coddled Westerners

chathamharrison.bsky.social•47 days ago

"they do not have daily seafood specials in backward American cities like Boston & Baltimore"

thetecheng.bsky.social•47 days ago

Id like to see you get a fresh lobster dinner in a remote rural area like Maine!!

ravenonthill.bsky.social•48 days ago

We need to develop better resistance to propaganda. After World War II we had media law and regulation to that end. That was abandoned during the Reagan administration, because the right wing wanted to take over the media. We also need to be more personally resistant.

chbarts.bsky.social•48 days ago

We have a government-run news source, the Voice of America, we could be using to counter foreign propaganda, but it's legally prohibited from advertising to Americans.

ravenonthill.bsky.social•48 days ago

Isn't this part of the problem with ChatGPT? People regard it as an authoritative source when it is anything but.

God help us, do we need an FCC for the internet?

hilvadvising.bsky.social•48 days ago

It's an older story, but I knew someone who went to China (a teacher of mine when I was a teen) as part of their language and cultural studies.

He said the thing, aside from plumbing differences, that really messed him up was the lack of concern re: food prep.

publicsafety.bsky.social•48 days ago

My passive-aggressive fantasy is posting this picture and then sending the picture again to the people liking and reposting the picture specifying that the picture is of us as well.

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junqueiraliv.bsky.social•47 days ago

Indeed.

nottotep.bsky.social•47 days ago

I think people are especially vulnerable when they become extremely negatively polarised against the opposite side of the propaganda.

Americans fed up with dysfunctional US politics are particularly susceptible to the idea that “everything must be better somewhere else”

ccollins.org•48 days ago

That thread has big time AI bot energy.

lazear.bsky.social•48 days ago

"They're eating lobster and crab on a Monday, not for anniversaries" might be one of the funniest propaganda lies I've ever seen someone fall for easily.

randomjeweler.bsky.social•47 days ago

Yea I could eat like that if I didn't want to stretch my cash. I don't like lobster or crab enough to pay extra

stephenjudkins.bsky.social•48 days ago

There are certainly a lot of ways I think the US should emulate China but this is an insanely rose-colored take on how great China is

smbrnsn.bsky.social•48 days ago

Trains trains trains trains trains (the high-speed rail was incredible).

daophos.bsky.social•48 days ago

And they're closing stations and having a nightmare maintaining tech that they stole/purchased and claimed they had created themselves, so maybe not such a great thing in such a huge way.

smbrnsn.bsky.social•48 days ago

Probably true. (I was only there once, probably 6 years ago at this point.)

wattasecond.bsky.social•48 days ago

like they have a special food supply chain for party members. There was a whole scandal about transporting cooking oil in un-cleaned fuel trucks fairly recently
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/10.1142/S1013251116500053?srsltid=AfmBOooovdFpsDobU_HIR2ReC0ZXnP7yVts9R8Q7ge86F3SoPNeUybiZ

wattasecond.bsky.social•48 days ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cml2kr9wkdzo

danifroom.bsky.social•48 days ago

this is just propaganda by clean food lovers

wattasecond.bsky.social•48 days ago

people pay good money for cadmium and you get it free with your rice, show some gratitude.

gaffa.bsky.social•47 days ago

Hell, even their military MREs are completely disgusting. I realize that's not a particularly high bar to clear, but still.

https://youtu.be/n96m5lB8nzA?si=FSRfMIEXRAb1gdfj

tedgehring.bsky.social•47 days ago

I’m seriously questioning the claims she makes to start that thread, because…

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tedgehring.bsky.social•47 days ago

I’ve seen a lot of people who were against the tiktok ban repost it without questioning her claims. And that’s weird because a lot if this is just Chinese propaganda.

cakeforbreakfast.bsky.social•47 days ago

I saw another thread where Sen. Mark Warner was concerned that TikTok users were flocking to Red Note and the number of people who are unaware that China is a security threat is staggering. Like, guess what, we should be worried about Musk AND Russia AND China from a nat sec perspective.

absolutepinnacle.bsky.social•47 days ago

Australian stores periodically have runs on baby formula that Chinese immigrants buy here in bulk for the express purpose of reselling in China.

The formula can be resold at a premium because it is trusted not to be contaminated.

Not a great sign for Chinese producers.

wavesquirrel.bsky.social•47 days ago

Her next tweet says Chinese fashion is impeccable and just...the easiest way to tell Chinese apart from Koreans and Japanese at a distance is not the "impeccable" fashion, lol

magstweets.bsky.social•46 days ago

Did I not read that at one time China was feeding its troops plastic rice?

buckrawheat.bsky.social•48 days ago

They're eating crab and lobster at lunch on a Monday because they have no regard for fisheries management

banditelli.org•48 days ago

Also I could be eating crab and lobster at lunch on Monday because I live in Long Beach California and make enough to do that????

onychomys.bsky.social•47 days ago

I live in southern Minnesota and could do it too, thanks to the magic of airplanes and ice. We have lobster rolls and whatnot even in flyover country.

(granted, it's probably a lot better in Long Beach, but our lack of earthquakes makes up for it)

banditelli.org•47 days ago

Crab is so readily available these days. Lobster isn't even that good. If they start having jumbo scallops for lunch in China then we're talking.

onychomys.bsky.social•47 days ago

Given their pollution problems, I probably wouldn't eat filter feeders from Chinese waters.

banditelli.org•47 days ago

Oh ya, for sure. I'm actually allergic to anything in the ocean with legs so I'm clean 😂

dustyponcho.bsky.social•47 days ago

I'm in butte county and an hour of work just above minimum wage gets you two lobster tails.

jimmy5705.bsky.social•47 days ago

We have Chinese friends in Shanghai that refuse to buy Chinese manufactured food, they go to Sams club (Costco clone) and buy imported food/drink.

scarymrolmecman.bsky.social•48 days ago

"Their healthcare is provided." Maybe her XHS friends can teach her the meaning of 挂号 .

jezzariddell.bsky.social•47 days ago

I think she's trying to sell destination vacation bookings, not the wonders of China's healthcare system.

jjgdr.bsky.social•47 days ago

Seems to me no different than the US.

la2054cd.bsky.social•47 days ago

When I was there for diss research I had a friend who was an investigative reporter. Spent *years* trying to publish on heavy metals in Guangdong rice supply, only to be told it was too sensitive a topic. He finally quit and went into advertising.

thornyopinion.bsky.social•48 days ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/uvm7oy/in_2008_a_chinese_dairy_company_intentionally/?rdt=48002

peaceandpaine.bsky.social•48 days ago

SteveMRE (YouTuber) has eaten century-old beef and handled it just fine, but the first time he tried a PLA MRE, it literally put him in the hospital.

s3rp86.bsky.social•48 days ago

Sure hope he had health insurance when that happened. I know in earlier videos he said he did not.

wafflecut.bsky.social•48 days ago

That is an incredible bit of lore I did not know about that guy

peaceandpaine.bsky.social•48 days ago

It was fairly recent, like within the last 3 or so years, so I'd imagine he was covered by then.

lukebuckheit.bsky.social•48 days ago

lmfao need to go watch this now

trevorsscott.bsky.social•48 days ago

Pretty sure it was this one he got out on to a tray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96m5lB8nzA&pp=ygUNc3RldmUxOTg5IHBsYQ%3D%3D

peaceandpaine.bsky.social•48 days ago

Yeah, that's the one. Lol He ate green pork and then didn't post anything for a while.

trevorsscott.bsky.social•48 days ago

I'm glad for his recent deluge of content: it's at once entertaining & a proof-of-life

unilecturerrob.bsky.social•48 days ago

Written either by a UFWD wumao (the type that swamp Reddit and Quora) or by somebody who has never been to the CCP state.

jctenton.bsky.social•48 days ago

it is fun that laduzi is a no questions asked day off work at least

i will grant that the long lunches own. we had two hours where i worked. civilized

dvdbutler.bsky.social•47 days ago

Knowing what Chinese food does to my innards, there's no way I could accept that Chinese food is good, no matter what care or effort is put into their quality.

thisbrokenwheel.bsky.social•48 days ago

Uh, I can pop off at lunch today and get lobster & crab at a pretty reasonable price. Pretty sure within walking distance of my apartment, too.

rowyourbot.bsky.social•47 days ago

It’s true that there are a variety of places in America, I can drive to some shack and buy a lobster, then go home and boil it. Crabs are even easier to find. Is this person not aware of that?

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

tiktoker discovers maryland

molicioushat.bsky.social•47 days ago

I believe lobster is cheap in Maine as well. Had a friend in college bring some back after a break.

thisbrokenwheel.bsky.social•48 days ago

And let's not sidestep the fact that China buys a lot of agricultural products (most especially corn, soybeans, and pork) from the USA to begin with.

garlaxweaselking.bsky.social•48 days ago

…Please do not let them discover maryland.

cakeforbreakfast.bsky.social•47 days ago

Hello from Boston! There's like more than 5 places I can get crab and lobster for lunch within walking distance of my office.

annabellelecter.bsky.social•48 days ago

Influencers are the worst

henryfung.bsky.social•47 days ago

The lobster and crab thing is so odd because I can go to the Chinese buffet in America for $16.95 at lunch, eat that, and be assured that someone has inspected it for basic hygienic practices.

bigseb31213.bsky.social•47 days ago

From literally 6 months ago, the enormous cooking oil scandal

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cml2kr9wkdzo

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Properly cleaned...😬

Is that even possible to clean fuel tankers to be able to use and move food product?

Cc @funranium.bsky.social

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Although 8,000 likes on a comment in a country of billions... Seems like the ratio is off m

funranium.bsky.social•47 days ago

In theory, yes.

In practice, no insurance company would let you take that risk.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

The insurance company.... I didn't even thought of their input.

Holy cow.

I feel so much worse that how many products in my house originate in China.

Thank God they're not capitalists😳

Thanks 👍

bigseb31213.bsky.social•47 days ago

Meanwhile the response of rednote's men to any picture of a somewhat scantily clad women:

elsewhere she posted that all criticism of china rings hollow because "gerontocracy" like...lady please take 1 look at the standing committee

https://bsky.app/profile/wenhao.bsky.social/post/3lfpwhjyyvk2a

preachypreach.bsky.social•48 days ago

… baby milk?

mudakun.bsky.social•47 days ago

Always wanted one of those nifty rechargeable vegetable ozone pucks for a sink full of veggies!

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valkyriekaren.bsky.social•47 days ago

Excuse my ignorance, but what is this object and what does it do?

mudakun.bsky.social•47 days ago

Waterproof, rechargeable ozone generator that you drop into a sink filled with water and freshly purchased vegetables to hopefully disinfect them/ remove some contaminants.

Effectiveness unknown.

valkyriekaren.bsky.social•47 days ago

Huh, never even heard of such a thing. I assume it's total hokum.

wudang96.bsky.social•48 days ago

She's spitting out better propaganda than the party itself. Did they hire her???

cstarks.bsky.social•48 days ago

Omg luxury gay space communism is real! Just slightly diarrheic

skippygranola.bsky.social•48 days ago

The tankies are dusting off their limited edition Little Red Books, baby!

lutze.bsky.social•47 days ago

Most people’s experience of China is cute videos on socials and it shows.

robertswartz.bsky.social•48 days ago

It's been some time since I lived there, but absolutely agree.

socio-steve.bsky.social•48 days ago

"Their street style and fashion is impeccable"

because of socialism or something?

lessdismalsci.bsky.social•47 days ago

“Americans are like, omg we are the poor ones”
And this is somehow an argument that these apps are something other than CCP propaganda?

joi-itos-jibo.bsky.social•48 days ago

It’s an assumption of her entire thread that nuance doesn’t exist. They are either hated enemies or glorious wealthy fashionable friends.

I feel like the average American’s impression of an actual average Chinese person starts and stops at “I bet they eat a lot of rice.”

justostrich.com•48 days ago

Let me tell you, the dirty khakis and torn pleasant goat t-shirt is the hottest fit of the season.

malaclypse.bsky.social•48 days ago

Also, given the existence of places like Foxconn, I’m skeptical about the duration of meal breaks.

wood-mousse.bsky.social•48 days ago

Its a huge country. I'd be willing to bet a substantial number of people do in fact live like that! But it takes away nothing from the worker abuses of Foxconn et al

omfproductions.bsky.social•48 days ago

I just hope they are overselling the US reaction because after November I am broken enough to believe masses of TikTok users are being totally hooked and rolled by China. Heh.

ml2.bsky.social•47 days ago

What's really irritating is that the iOS store AFAICT gives no indication of the number of app downloads in a country.

Play Store says "10M+" for downloads in the US. Apple doesn't seem to have that

cooperlund.online•48 days ago

“Travel Agent for luxury clients” in the bio explains this one I think

kbuts.bsky.social•48 days ago

Probably gets visited by the Wallet Inspector a lot.

harkov311.bsky.social•47 days ago

"Sure I've only seen the rich parts of Shanghai, Chonqing, and Beijing, but I'm sure the rest of the country is just like that
..right?"

beijingpalmer.bsky.social•48 days ago

ohhhhh I wonder if this is one of the people involved in the stuff @yeomans.bsky.social reported on recently, where Western travel agents are being brought in to do Xinjiang propaganda, or if she's just naturally stupid

cooperlund.online•48 days ago

I don't think it's that, I think this is just a person who has no experience with China outside of first tier cities

danifroom.bsky.social•48 days ago

[watching tiktoks of Manhattanites for a couple hours]: all Americans live like Greek gods

tedgehring.bsky.social•47 days ago

I don’t know, man…

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unilecturerrob.bsky.social•48 days ago

Paid propagandist. There are a lot of them in western social media

zas.bsky.social•48 days ago

but surely a travel agent for luxury clients should be able to recognize advertising made to get people to travel

rickywlmsbong.bsky.social•48 days ago

ordering the tomahawk at the shanghai ruth’s chris and wondering why people think china is poor

swolecialism.bsky.social•48 days ago

the food at the four seasons in hangzhou is stellar, don't see what the problem is

buckrawheat.bsky.social•48 days ago

I do love an Asian hotel buffet

swolecialism.bsky.social•48 days ago

they're right about the breakfast salad tbh

mattsteg.bsky.social•47 days ago

I'm really struggling to see how one would even get this impression from first-tier cities though. Yes you can absolutely track down delicious and economical (by american standards) meals but it didn't really strike me as something that filtered down to fantastic food quality for the people.

abeardedpanda.bsky.social•48 days ago

I think this is expat syndrome and not realizing what purchasing power is

369enthusiast.bsky.social•47 days ago

"they can buy a fresh-cooked breakfast for a dollar! they're so rich"

unilecturerrob.bsky.social•48 days ago

More like “useful idiot” for the Chinese communist party UFWD overseas influence apparatus. The sort that upload those awful 2160p videos on to YT titled “I can’t believe China” etc and where every “random” PRC citizen then ‘bump’ into speaks passable English 😂😂😂

rickywlmsbong.bsky.social•48 days ago

also maybe just me but i don’t recall much if anything said here about the quality of food in china?

anxioudacity.bsky.social•48 days ago

That entire thread is wildly apologist propaganda

unilecturerrob.bsky.social•48 days ago

Yep- but they got paid for it

themilesturner.bsky.social•48 days ago

You can tell who's actually spent time in the bits of China you don't see in the photographs, can't you?

cptowers.bsky.social•48 days ago

"I'm really surprised at how effective propaganda is!"

judah-grunstein.bsky.social•48 days ago

That aside, the entire thread is pretty eye-opening in terms of how easy and effective applying the tankie line to China seems to be.

Almost like the "Cuba has universal health care and 100% literacy" takes from not that long ago.

missmoonlight.bsky.social•48 days ago

I mean, "travel agent for luxury and corporate clients" and gullibility explains this one... Also an easy block.

justostrich.com•48 days ago

I'm old enough to remember when I studied abroad in Beijing I got diarrhea 3 times and norovirus as I left. Not as bad as my classmate who ate ONE jianbing with fresh lettuce from a street vendor and caught scarlet fever.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Omfg.🤬

justostrich.com•47 days ago

It's not necessarily that deep - this is what traveling in most developing countries is like. Boil the water, don't eat uncooked things, etc.

It's less that "China is an awful shithole" and more that people underestimate how clean American produce is.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Please, Americans underestimate how good they have it?

😝

...the scarlet fever surprised me.

justostrich.com•47 days ago

Real talk we have e. coli outbreaks on fresh veg from time to time but 90% of the time washing your veg correctly is enough

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Absolutely. And we don't go around shipping food products in containers that moved fuel oil.

American exceptionalism
!

ohwellokay.bsky.social•48 days ago

I’m so old I remember “Throw It Out the Window” …and also when the censors took down Throw It Out the Window

calizaybak.bsky.social•48 days ago

> lobster and crab on a Monday at lunch

...

So Red Lobster or Long John Silver or a half dozen other places open for Monday lunches?

That's a flex?

yonatans.bsky.social•48 days ago

It's not like we are still suffering from the aftereffects of a massive global pandemic caused by poor food handling procedures in Chinese markets...
Wait... sorry, I'm getting some reports in...
Oh.

crumbsey.bsky.social•48 days ago

"They're eating lobster and crab on a Monday at lunch"...no need to even bother with responding to that.

reben.bsky.social•48 days ago

"High-quality groceries" aka stuffing your suitcase with baby milk powder & vitamins whilst touring France.

andycraig.bsky.social•48 days ago

I can buy sushi rolls with lobster and crab in them from my grocery store for $4.99. I wouldn't recommend it but only because I'm a snobby elite, they're perfectly safe and real enough for the rest of you.

elfprince13.mumak.app•48 days ago

Lobster was “poor food” in coastal New England for ages until overfishing decimated the populations

andycraig.bsky.social•48 days ago

They also have live lobsters for like twenty bucks but I've never been tempted by that, I like my food already dead.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Elitist!

rowyourbot.bsky.social•47 days ago

Oh, right LOL. My grocery store has LIVE LOBSTER right there in the tank, and it’s a pretty scuzzy store, and not at all fancy.

andycraig.bsky.social•47 days ago

Not a new thing to be common, either. I remember Walmart having them when I was a kid in the 90s. No idea how far back but it didn’t seem like a novelty to anyone then.

pierrejulian.bsky.social•47 days ago

Yeah, there was a lot in that thread that I wanted to call bullshit on, but it kept going and going and I just didn’t know where to start. She haha-mentions genocidal atrocities in there too somewhere.

howardoark.bsky.social•47 days ago

54,000 children hospitalized, 6 dead. Of course, the people responsible were executed, so there’s that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

seraphcavotta.bsky.social•47 days ago

Lol yes this famously never happens in Western countries

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howardoark.bsky.social•47 days ago

The difference being that one was an accident and the other was intentional (adding a poison to milk so it appeared to have more protein).

seraphcavotta.bsky.social•47 days ago

Walkerton was not an accident, it was literally a crime that was a foreseeable consequence of the Harris government’s negligence in privatizing water utilities.

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howardoark.bsky.social•47 days ago

It wasn’t intentional and they weren’t trying to make money off of it

seraphcavotta.bsky.social•47 days ago

in some ways this hellsite is worse than x

alahav.bsky.social•48 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

jpaw346.bsky.social•47 days ago

no one eats lobster and crab on a Monday at lunch. where did she learn that

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

Exactly. Then is for steak tratar.

ablum.bsky.social•48 days ago

That thread started out fine and then went in a bonkers direction.

shivax.bsky.social•47 days ago

I guess she's never been to New England.

rytko6.bsky.social•47 days ago

Years ago, I went to a family wedding in Dongguan and got horrific food poisoning and giant mosquito bite. I limped across that Luohu footbridge home for dear life...

michael-w-busch.bsky.social•47 days ago

I am reminded of all of the "boil water before drinking" notices posted in both Chinese and English at the hotels I have stayed at in China.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

What do you mean, warm water is both refreshing and warming...😬

michael-w-busch.bsky.social•47 days ago

I am also known to a few people as "that American who won't eat soy sauce".

But that was a language barrier and personal food restrictions situation; rather than a food safety problem.

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

👍

notbenreilly.bsky.social•48 days ago

Posting that "people are seeing through propaganda" while saying all this is pretty funny

cepmurphy.bsky.social•47 days ago

I'm very bemused that the thread goes on to say "I'm not making judgements about the accuracy of depictions of life in China", when the posts before then weren't saying 'this is what they think seeing posters', it was presenting this as a thing young Yanks are now learning as fact!

porter79.bsky.social•47 days ago

I can't believe how long she went on about it all.