cannot overstate how serious and irony-free i am with this post. the juggalo population is a not-insignificant voting bloc that is most populous in one of the most important swing states
not sure if he meant new hampshire but i went to high school there and there were a lottt of juggalos. i thought it was a just another clique that every hs had like jocks, geeks, drama kids. had to move away to learn they aren’t everywhere
Yeah, I read it as being serious, and I think you're right. I suspect Juggalos also include a reasonable number of persuadable voters, either because their politics don't align completely with either party or because they're low propensity voters or both.
I hear you about the numbers - however, from what I've been told about juggalos, they were probably already gonna vote Harris/Walz. So I suspect they'd be not so much peeling voters off as getting non-voters to vote. (Which is good!)
I explained their deal to my dad (66-year-old art major blue collar guy) and he summarized it as: they're like the Grateful Dead if they were horror-themed clown rappers. Devoted fanbase that follows them everywhere, music that their fans claim is genius but mostly sounds the same to normies, etc.
juggalos are hewn from the same stuff as all the formerly apolitical people on the margins that became trump's secret weapon. anybody who laughs them off is a goddamn moron
he has what trump has, but used for good. relishing mainstream rejection to show commitment to his community, outlandish statements that signal unfiltered honesty etc
I don't think they're much of a voting block. Based on the Daily Show juggalo interview segment last week (and past vice docs), I assume maybe 3% of Juggalos vote consistently.
If another gathering could somehow happen this week, I bet organizers could get it to 40% as the Dem platform is great for Juggalos. But without something to concentrate them, I think it would be hard to get too many registered, informed, and prepared to vote. But I could be underestimating them.
I can't help but think about the juggalo documentaries and how open and welcoming they were to everyone when reading this and yesterdays entire "young men are just lonely so they are gonna support fascism"
In Homestuck, one of the pivotal plot moments is that the 2024 election is won by ICP as the first dual-presidents, which begins earth's destruction as they do the bidding of Betty Crocker who is actually a sexy alien
Let's be thankful they endorse Kamala this year...
A rising to webcomic Homestuck J and Shaggy will jointly serve as the last two US presidents before the end of days so I take their endorsement very seriously
I'm old enough to remember when ICP cancelled the 2020 Gathering over concerns COVID-19 would harm their fans. Nothing but respect for them at this point.
I had no idea Juggalos were still a thing till they overwhelmed Riot Fest last year. By all accounts they're a great community, so hopefully this mobilizes at least a few people.
I can't help but think that Trump will fixate on the "Insane" part of that. Much the same as he seems to think that "Asylum seekers" and "Mental asylum" are the same thing...
more evidence that liberals are completely cooked. you want a genocidaire who wishes to give even more money to the military industrial complex and all of those progressive talking points she uses? pure marketing. she wants to work with the people you're voting against. good luck with the clown vote
Honestly it just takes the band themselves catching the news.
The first time I saw it was MAGA folks reacting negatively to the band being like “we said some shit in the past and we’re not proud of it and it was wrong, fuck homophobia and misogyny” or sommat.
I’m familiar enough to know they’ve outgrown a lot of their past homophobic comments and seem to be genuinely nice, caring people. The Juggalos are good in my book!
It really does. It’s such a cliche that people get more conservative as they get older, but I’ve watched people that casually used gay slurs for years start to argue in favor of gay and Transgender rights in their 60s. People can change for the better, and when they do, we should praise it!
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WHOOP WHOOP. Juggalos don't fuck with bigots like Donald, that dude has way too many supporters and they fly rebel flags, which we have a few songs about. ("Confederate Flag" and "Your Rebel Flag")
listen to great milenko front to back and tell me you don't at least get what people see in it, not being mean i just think it's worth giving them a chance
I decline that offer, but the Neden Game made me laugh in middle school, and their politics are way better than, like, Meatloaf’s. FAMILY FAMILY FAMILY
Some of his supporters only want him in so we can have cheaper prices on gas and shit and a good majority of them who do fly rebel flags fly it for a completely different meaning and aren’t racist as hell like people say they are.
Despite being a lifelong Michigander, I somehow haven’t ever heard ICP’s actual MUSIC. After a listen, I am definitely feeling at least these two songs now. Fuck that flag!
Has it ever struck you that you're an uninformed child and it would benefit both of us if you stayed out of politics (hell, it would benefit most people)
I still hold it that the Cheney endorsement is a republican ploy to turn voters off the Harris campaign – while getting the foot in the door for whatever influence in the event of its likely win.
Nobody can convince me otherwise.
After working in a music store for a couple years after college, I've got mad respect for Juggalos. They're weird AF and they know and love it, some of the chillest, most passionate peeps I've met. Their music isn't my can of beer but they've always got my respect.
“It is estimated that 85–90% of [1 mil+] self-described Juggalos are peaceful, non-criminal music fans. The other 10–15% make up the Juggalo subculture's criminal element, which has been linked to numerous crimes …” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo_gangs
“Detective Michelle Vasey has commented, "I don't want people to go out there and look at every Juggalo and say, 'Oh, he's a gang member, he's got a machete and he's going to slice and dice everybody.'”
I saw an ICP show back in 2000 (and saw GWAR a week later) and if you told me they'd be making possibly consequential political endorsements in 2024 I wouldn't have said anything because I was so high at that show I was fucking vibrating.
My axe is all about cuttin bigots down so this is fitting.
Most if not all of their songs have some reference to anti-racist/anti-fascist shit. This id very on brand for them 😁
‘We live in a country where some of the population has the right to question the mechanism by which magnets function—and I think we should have that discussion.’
They've always been in support of marginalized groups including Trans people, & furries even. Violent J's daughter is a furry, & he got himself a fursuit so he can con with her.
YUP!
J has even said that he regrets a lot of lyrics they did in their "Younger" days with ICP cause now there's going to be so many LGBT Juggalos hearing them.
He has straight up said DO NOT make excuses for them using those lyrics, he was a fool for using them.
Damn, that's some solid emotional maturity. Some folks may think of ICP & Juggalos as a joke but I've always found them to be rock-solid people. True grit, largely lower-class folk who embrace the concept of solidarity to the fullest.
when covid hit and organizations were hand wringing about canceling events the gathering of the juggalos was like "we refuse to risk even a single juggalo life"
theyre people
When they were running a wrestling league they always made sure their wrestlers and promoters got paid first, before they did; even if that meant they themselves were not getting paid.
The ICP documentary The United States Oof Insanity is a revelatory journey. It showcases the band's music, sense of humor & the focused dip-shittery of the FBI that relentlessly stalked the band.
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https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index/#yourclerk
I got it backwards!
https://www.stereogum.com/2284958/kamala-harris-secures-coveted-violent-j-endorsement/news/
Let's be thankful they endorse Kamala this year...
(Since that can be read in multiple ways, I am going to clarify that I mean that as a compliment to the Juggalos)
Try the old Piggy Pie, My Axe, and Halls of Illusion.
I mean you could be right, but you might not be
Elon pissed off the Swifties.
The first time I saw it was MAGA folks reacting negatively to the band being like “we said some shit in the past and we’re not proud of it and it was wrong, fuck homophobia and misogyny” or sommat.
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Panel 2: Legolas wearing juggalo facepaint asks, What about side by side with a homie?
Panel 3: Gimli, now also in facepaint, says Whoop whoop!
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Who would have thought lol
Their taste in music fucking sucks though
Thats why scrubs like us love it!
The sweet spot for ICP musically.
First 3 Twiztid LPs are also great.
but they are honestly pretty decent people
Significantly.
Supporting Evidence: ALL OF THIS.
https://vimeo.com/channels/1156348/29589320
Even if it’s just for the sake of edginess
-Violent J
Big Money Hustlas (movie)
Nobody can convince me otherwise.
Miracles..
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
As absurd as that is.
Glad to have the Juggalos on our side.
Wtf.
Manifesting stuff over here like a true magician lol.
Can we get some UBI in here or what
Magnets, How Do They Work?
Well, comparatively, you're darn tootin'!
My axe is all about cuttin bigots down so this is fitting.
Most if not all of their songs have some reference to anti-racist/anti-fascist shit. This id very on brand for them 😁
I'll take the endorsement.
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I’ll take tacky and good morals any day.
J has even said that he regrets a lot of lyrics they did in their "Younger" days with ICP cause now there's going to be so many LGBT Juggalos hearing them.
He has straight up said DO NOT make excuses for them using those lyrics, he was a fool for using them.
theyre people