Most likely answer is that this is real-time motion capture from whatever headset they're using for it, and the hands are tracking the actors' IRL hand positions and disregarding model self collision. It happens a lot in other VR programs like VRChat.
The arms looked mechanically ok to me (even though they were being waved around in various unhelpful non-lifelike ways relative to the conversations, and unless they're doing it because you the user are waving your arms, it's bad.)
But the legs look badly glued on, like the sleeves on a bad shirt.
Meta's consistent push for this really feels like a delusional obsession. Filed under delusional, because how has a company with this much money ended up so invested with something that looks substantially (And consistently) worse than indie games from +15 years ago? 😖
It’s staggering to me how awful this is. I had no idea. I mean how is it even possible to have spent billions of dollars to create a VR environment that, if it had appeared in a video game fifteen years ago, would have been laughed at?
And on Meta's platform! That's the bit that kills me honestly. They bought Oculus, they're already the dominant VR player. They could be profitably focusing on growing the whole ecosystem but no, they HAVE to get it into their *particular* software.
Lol, staggering is the right word. The polygon count on those models is so high, and yet they look hideous.
It must be deliberate, right?? Like, user feedback from a large-but-quiet subset of meta customers MUST like this? They hire smart people, they MUST know it's bad.
lots of polygons and not enough textures... the trouble w/ MQ is that the 2 has 6 GB of RAM total and 3 only 8 GB. They got 𝐺𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑓𝑡 𝐴𝑢𝑡𝑜 to fit in the 36 MB PS2 but it took the coding complexity of a top tier video game where everybody worked extra hard...
... Meta would be just as excited, I think, if there was a competitive social-virtual framework that worked on the MQ but I've looked far and wide for an authoring framework that would make it easy to make, say, an art gallery of stereograms and scanned models and it doesn't exist...
... I ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 I could make it work with WebXR if I was super-careful to keep the total texture size down by removing objects that aren't in view and designing the world so there never is much in view, but for VR to take the place of social, some plain boring business ...
... must be able to afford to make a non-cringe VR storefront for less than $10k. VRChat looks like a counterexample but it has many problems such as the impoverished standalone version and it being very possible some rando can come to your world and ruin everybody's framerate with a bad avatar
I can't escape the feeling that Zuck is a fan of Ready Player One and really wants to create the Metaverse as shown in that book without realizing that it was really just a way of connecting a whole world of VR utilities. He's trying to make the browser appealing without the good stuff.
I have this sneaking suspicion they weren't seriously thinking SL premiered in 1975... but that would have been awesome, and now I wanna see a documentary about that alternate timeline. 😼
Yeah, this, the Money for Nothing understood its limitations and worked within them to create an animation that holds up to this day despite its archaic construction.
LOOK AT THEIR FUCKING LEGS THEY SPENT TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS ON THE PLATFORM AND TWO YEARS ON IMPLEMENTING LEGS SPECIFICALLY AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT, LIKE COMPLETE SHIT
This definitely makes me think they only made a scene where everyone was sitting down to hide the way the legs still don't work for avatars standing up. 😄
This is an insult to everyone who has ever built a decent 3D avatar.
Also:
You don't get it, Zuckerberg. People don't do 3D worlds when they can do it without *quicker*. Chatting with friends? Shopping? Seeing a film? Literally anything at all? Slower in a 3D avatar world, therefore it is doomed.
Yeah! The point of a 3D avatar world is to have fun *being* in a 3D avatar world. That's why there's so many furries in Second Life and VRChat; it's fun to get to be your fursona. This AA-meeting thing has nothing to do with that.
i like how im an amateur 3D artist and the shit i create (for vrchat usually also :) ) has so much more life than what a billion dollar company shits out
And even the message sucks: let's have people talk about how it's OK to be single – and all we learn of them is how their ex broke up. Really, that's what defines these singles? That's like having vegetarians talk about what their latest meat meal was.
My impression was they are trying to say in the subtext that it is better to break up with someone in Horizon Worlds as it is such a more personal experience.
Im fuckin dyin because its like they know they can’t actually make this shit FUN if they want to sell “enterprise solutions” because we’d be playin video games instead of fillin out stupid ass busy work reports
I felt the same when I saw the first Cybertruck demos… That confused “but… but… it’s obviously bad, right? Is it a joke? Aren’t they embarrassed? Or is this the point?” feeling. It’s like a 3D version of the “graphic design is my passion” meme.
Ignore it. Ignore meta and all their products. Just a reminder. We are the PRODUCT for meta. They collect and sell our data. All of the fluff is there for us to waste our time and feed their machines. Imagine what happens if the product gives the middle finger and leaves en mass.
Have these people REALLY never investigated their superior competitor: VR Chat? Even Second Life. Like, you have to at least have some quality parity with these to win over the people who want to play a VR game / social app.
VRchat is far too queer for Zuck. That won't be a problem if Meta buys them out and removes all the user generated content, though. Then it can be a lifeless, Ai generated slop fest just like this monstrosity.
....is this support group discussion in a highschool gym an experience I'm meant to want to have? In 2025? With other human beings? In VR over the Internet? On purpose and of my own free will?
with crap authoring tools that don't let you import JPG or MP3 or GLB files it's just as hard to author content if you're John Carmack or Autodesk as if you are the owner of a restaurant that wants to make a VR world to promote your business... everybody gets brought down to the same level
Just what you'd expect to get from tech bros with zero human qualities who treat everyone else as a serf that needs to be entertained so they don't pay attention to what the rulers are up to. This is their 21st century version of the Romans' free theatre and chariot races
constantly and continuously funny that Meta, one of the richest companies in the world, can't accomplish, for the thing they *renamed their company after*, something that furry VR chat modelers can do in a couple of hours.
The furries don't even have access to the internal workings of VRchat! They gotta re-kajigger all that shit every few months once an update breaks everything!
These guys own every pixel of their Metaverse, and the only thing they can do with all those tools and all that money is make dogshit.
Thinking about this,its worse because those are not someones diy or custom made avatars those were made by the people who made the platform there really is no reason for this.
They must have a religious hatred of hiring artists/designers/animators. Why give money to people who've spent years learning these so-called 'soft' skills, when you give the project to a few interns? After all, animation and design is their passion........
“for the thing they *renamed their company after*”
This is genuinely the funniest part about this whole thing for me, like you renamed your company and did all that legal shit before you could even render legs in your Temu Second Life experiment? lol
They thought renaming their brand to a VR concept word would be more effective than making a VR product people would want to use.
They could have stayed as just Facebook but paid awesome queer people to develop an attractive product and named it Spork and Spork would have entered the vernacular.
I hope they keep spending money on this. You’re so close to real people movements. You just need to burn more billions and you’ll get it. People will totally love this.
people like social media as it exists because you can be half hanging out at a running meet or talking to your family and half scrolling through Facebook, to commit 100% to an immersive world you'd have to be a 'gamer' or something
Wow, I hate everything about that. Janky, uncanny valley graphics, awkward mandatory fun icebreakers, work meetings, school gyms, those horrible metal folding chairs… batting a big ol’ goose egg there, Zuck.
"Sorry, babe. Gotta breakup. It's not you. It just... Look, It's weird being the only guy on the metaverse with a significant other. It makes it hard to fit in. One of the guys will be like 'one day, I want to touch a boob' and I have to be like 'hahaha, yeah samesies'. its better this way."
For maximum comic effect, cut to footage of Mark Zuckerberg sitting oddly in his office chair and flapping his arms stiffly at staffers, “FINALLY! These avatars look so realistic! Great job, guys! 😃”
While everyone is talking about the Wii shovelware tier visuals, anyone wanna bet this was voiced and written with AI? Either that or Mark Zuckerberg wrote the script himself.
Health care, setting up a national UBI system, and free food kitchens opened to all? Anything would have been better than pissing away 100 billion away on this shit. They should all be hung and all their assests seized.
it's like a combination of, "you're a loveless terminally online loser? don't go outside—you're our target audience" and "haha internet, young people like wifi isn't that funny...haha and hashtag relatable?"
Yeah, by 2006 it was pretty polished compared to this. You needed broadband and a *really* good PC to do it justice but it was *good* - and now this POS comes along like "Look at me, I'm lifelike VR!" Shyeah, right.
Give me the Far Away.
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Uncanny valley would be an improvement
But the legs look badly glued on, like the sleeves on a bad shirt.
I'm Not Joking.
😳🤷♂️
And they still can't compete with VRChat.
It must be deliberate, right?? Like, user feedback from a large-but-quiet subset of meta customers MUST like this? They hire smart people, they MUST know it's bad.
These things look like they were designed by someone (or, more likely something *cough*AI*cough*) that has never seen an actual human before.
(Still, 22 years is amazing...)
What.
OP's video is just lazy garbage.
and now it's like... just because you can make a model with a million polygons doesn't mean you should. Everyone likes to look like Pixar. ugh
Animations
Backgrounds
Facial Rigging
Textures
than this.
Also:
You don't get it, Zuckerberg. People don't do 3D worlds when they can do it without *quicker*. Chatting with friends? Shopping? Seeing a film? Literally anything at all? Slower in a 3D avatar world, therefore it is doomed.
But VRChat has 1000x the charm this has.
Holy shit this is awful. I’m embarrassed by proxy even watching it.
[Holds meeting in empty school gym.]
Im fuckin dyin because its like they know they can’t actually make this shit FUN if they want to sell “enterprise solutions” because we’d be playin video games instead of fillin out stupid ass busy work reports
(Complaining that Facebook lacks masculine energy is also not manly, but what do they know?)
Because I want Meta to fail and this is complete garbage
Leg-like appendages
The legs aren’t articulated. They’re all digital paraplegics.
These guys own every pixel of their Metaverse, and the only thing they can do with all those tools and all that money is make dogshit.
The quality is so terrible, they didn't try at all.
This is genuinely the funniest part about this whole thing for me, like you renamed your company and did all that legal shit before you could even render legs in your Temu Second Life experiment? lol
They could have stayed as just Facebook but paid awesome queer people to develop an attractive product and named it Spork and Spork would have entered the vernacular.
I would NOT die for the Meta "humans".
"more! more!" demand the people, insatiable for grum
it was actually good
It’s sososososo bad !
How much money got pissed away on this barely passable Second Life rip off? What else could that money have been used for?
They want you to feel lonely so you don't notice it looks like they're still standing when sitting
The man has brown ghost pants a skull bolo? Or brooch?
Business casual goth but brown, so it's not too edgy and unapproachable lololol
What the actual fuck is that hot mess and I'd rather be fucking alone thank you lol
This is just being bad.
Give me the Far Away.