Y’all remember the dark days of fighting for toilet paper? It was just 5 years ago.
Though TP won’t necessarily be limited supply a whole bunch of other things will. It’s why people have been stocking up on essentials for the last month as Trump danced around implementing tariffs.
They might want to start looking for new jobs as migrant farm laborers. While they're at it, it's probably a good idea to develop a taste for tofu as the US is gonna be stuck with a lot of soybeans.
Yes but it's it food grade soy?
I know corn has different types to feed cows or humans at their digestion world differently.
Could imagine it's the same with soy?
And most of soy produced is to produce meat?
The market is headed to new lows. It’s inevitable. Disruption in the supply chain during COVID was the catalyst for the crash then. @carlquintanilla.bsky.social @cnbc.com
Dray/Drayage is generally the hauling of freight to or from rail yards in my experience (7.5 years in a dispatch office), I believe that also applies from the port to nearby warehousing, though the company I was with mostly did not deal with port freight directly
Drayage, moving the shipping containers via truck. I think here he means initial transport to a warehouse for ex. since he separates it from intermodal. So first there will be less to transport to warehouses and distribution centers etc., then once the goods there are done, that goes away too
But why would they want to do this? The US has a lot of empty space, too, so why didn't we want to fill them with smart, ambitious immigrants? (well we did, with land gifts to Europeans to push out Indigenous, Mexican, and Chinese people)
Why does Canada have to be ruthless and strict? Because they're under direct threat from an adjacent nuclear power, that's why, and they can't afford to welcome MAGA infiltrators.
This is good news. Trump will continue to have 90%+ support from the base until they are personally affected. Economic we need an economic collapse to break the cult.
You're remembering it wrong, the economic collapse was all due to the war with China which Biden started. Trump saved us when he gave them California, vote Trump again to keep making America greater!
That's a lot of land. You might be able to help more people than just your family. I've only got standard sized suburban front and back yards. Not enough to feed my while family, but plenty enough to supplement.
Like I said: all I hear whining farmers, apart from one who actually warned his fellow farmers. But I expect the ones who fought so hard against this outcome to make a lot of noise Saturday next, right?
maybe you can’t understand this, from your personal experience, but this is a BIG place. Its massive. Your snide little comments lumping everyone in together as if there aren’t marginalized ppl spattered across this country living in more danger than you can imagine is tone deaf, at the very least
Thanks for the lesson in geography and demographics. I really had no idea how bigly the USA is. Apologies if I hurt your feelings. But my “personal experience” showed me he got voted in a second time. So do forgive me for thinking the majority of Americans care little about their country.
I will never understand the impulse these cunts have to say “no this is your problem” to people who clearly voted for Harris. Don’t know why you’re getting shit for a reasonable post
Dear Dutch lady, please don’t wish harm on 350 million people, most of whom didn’t vote for trump. This is is people’s lives not a morality play to affirm your personal righteousness
It's strange these days
When everybody else pays
For someone else's mistake
This blame takes shape
Still everybody else pays
For someone else's mistake
This is what the WH traitor felon conman wants, to destroy our economy that was doing so well under President Biden… so he can hurt all Americans. Wonder how many of the “freight guys” voted for him and this utter mess? 😡
Great again? NO!
Get someone plugged into the Central Asian and Sikh trucker mafias to tell them this is all Trump's fault and they can fix it by blockading the WH, Capitol Hill, and Mar-a-Lago.
Will people ever learn the lesson that Trump is absolutely unworthy of their trust? Like how did the Teamsters leadership manage to miss that obvious fact?
Actually, I’m loving this. I’m convinced that the only way maggots will learn is to be personally damaged. It’s why I’m so committed to the buyer’s strike many of us have been on. The best way to kill the fascist beast is to stop feeding it. Shipping is a real canary in the coal mine. Good.
I’m thrilled as well that y hey are moving so quickly and destructively. If it had been a slow measured rollout of their policies, would have been like the frog in the pot boiling slowly. Some people only learn shit the hard way. Make it swift and brutal. Tired of saving these people from themselves
My thought when they won everything is that now they can’t blame anything on Democrats. Anything bad that happens must come from the Trump administration. They cannot deny it. They can, but then even other magats will think they’re stupid.
Shipping is the whole coal mine. Our whole economy depends on it. Our ability to get food and other resources necessary for life to people across the country depend on shipping.
Of course it’s bad. Those of us who had the sense to do the right thing in November won’t get out of this unscathed. My goal at this point is simple for the Constitution to survive. I’ll be satisfied if that.
Again here missing the point - not everyone harmed by this immense economic damage either a) voted for him b) didn’t or couldn’t vote at all. It’s essentially collective punishment.
I say this on behalf of a much larger than you might think groupof individuals in this country, whom like myself, merely reply; Bring. It. The. Fuck. On. And, unless you wanna get caught in the fray, lead, follow, or fucking move. I'll be your Robespierre...
Some of them, but not "the lot of them". Many of them genuinely believed that prices would come down and that only "other people" would lose their jobs under Trump. Those are the MAGA people who will turn on him as the economic situation worsens and begins to hit home.
I've already resigned myself to the fact that this is going to hurt. I'm just going to have to deal with it. One way will be sitting back and watching people who voted for Trump realize they're not going to escape this shit show.
So able bodied farmers are getting welfare checks without working? Not funny tho! Big Ag is getting that 💰the small farmers are getting screwed and now Ag dept has been depleted help is not coming for them…have no idea why they would vote for him again 😔
Why would the tariffs make the logistics companies not keep a lawyer on retainer? They can’t afford it? Or they don’t need legal services since nothing is gonna be imported?
It's more a matter of with this level of uncertainty, they don't want to incur any additional expenses as this time. We're talking about small businesses, operating on fairly thin margins. They have to worry about those margins vanishing entirely.
They’d have to speak to their specific case, but in my personal experience some owners view legal problems as ‘the cost of doing business’ which can be dealt with if/when they arise, rather than proactively paying to avoid said problems.
Buying ink cartridge at Walmart yesterday. I noticed that the wide aisles that always have the middle filled with items were completely empty. When a master retailer like Walmart stops using prime product display areas, something big is happening.
One of the reasons that stupid policies should be avoided, like tariffs. Stupid policies have consequences. Not just price kickback to the consumer and shuttering factories, but the collapse of trade has wider ramifications. Like shipping and hauling.
Back to School shopping is going to be bleak.
There will be no pens, pencils, highlighters, binders, backpacks… you name it.
The entire section at big box stores simply won’t have any inventory.
Not so fast, my friend.
Most pens/pencils/markers are manufactured in the US (with international components). The Mexico tariffs being the most impactful there.
I know of a great warehouse with a manufacturing arm, in Maryville, TN that we can visit sometime.
Chromebooks: 250% tariff on China
Sharpie S-gel pens and Five Star College Ruled Notebook Paper: 25% tariff on Mexico
The real killer is going to be Baby safety products.
90% of those in the US are made in China, and I'm not sure people can stomach a 250% price increase on that
Absolutely.
People think of regular retail items as the things that will be more scarce.
But it's going to be the unavailability of taken-for-granted, small but crucial unseen parts and components that's going to be the kicker. Those supply chains are delicate, intricate, particular.
I shudder to think about how much miscellaneous supplies from the inside of a hospital supply closet will increase.
If an Ace Bandage cost $150 on insurance before the tariffs... multiply that by 250%, carry the supply chain increases...
My main worry for the kid safety is use after expiration
FWIW, our town’s schools already have Chromebooks (thank you COVID).
But when any of them need replacement batteries or AC chargers? Sorry. Literally can’t find any to buy, or prices are 3x.
It’s the monthly consumables where logistics get bad for households.
I don’t relish the thought of queuing up at grocery stores and seeing empty shelves, like the images of the USSR that I grew up with. Or, to a lesser degree, the pandemic, which also severely impacted shipping (And trucking). But I’ll take perverse pleasure in thinking about Mump voters’ rage.
It's going to be a little back pain as they're forced to go out into the fields to pick the crops the immigrant community used to pick because those are the only jobs open.
The depth of the problem hasn’t been realized by Wall St. Shipping container bookings in China are down 64% in May. Means only 1/3 of normal imports. Clothes, shoes, sneakers, hardware, tools, tires, chemicals, pesicides. Almost everything we buy is going to be out of stock worse than during covid
I can’t wait until everyone pushes the big beautiful “on” buttons at all of the secret manufacturing plants all over this country, just waiting to sell us cheap US goods! And they’ll all be staffed by now unemployed Federal workers and disappeared “illegal immigrants” in forced labor.
Wall St is a data consumer second only to the Pentagon, IMO. It’s absolute malpractice for them to not see or willfully ignore these flashing red lights.
We get a LOT of medical equipment and disposables from China. Gloves, masks, ekg stickers, sterile drapes, thermometer probes, disinfectants, dressing supplies - the hospitals are about to go through it 😞
Yes we know and we’re sad about that, but they didn’t care about me or you. And they’re not even the majority here, which really makes it worse. Of course, Saddam Hussein wasn’t in the majority and neither was Assad and they ruled for decades. I appreciated the 5 Eyes. I’m sorry.
No need to apologise! We feel for you! Australia gets off lightly in a direct economic sense as we export very little to the US except beef. So Trump's burgers won't taste as good. Of course there are a lot of indirect effects via our big trading partners in Asia and generally chaos.
Unless the tariffs are totally backtracked, it will take, at least, 1-2 years to reconfigure the supply chain for basic products and 1-2 decades to fully substitute China production from the US consumption.
My fears as well. I try to be optimistic with predictive estimation, but it's most likely years to decades by the end of this debacle. Too much damage financially. Too many damaged relationships globally.
You can't painlessly decouple from your 3rd greatest trading partners. Embargoing China alone means major damage to the US economy, specially in such short notice.
Every other country is happy that they can cut big chunks of the US market for themselves.
Mexico, Canada, Europe, India, Brazil and so on, will import raw materials or parts from China, assemble the products and sell to the US, like, until this month, a lot of US industries did.
Freight alone is 1% of the US jobs market.
And everything has a scale effect. It will be bloody.
Historically, depressions start at about 12 years and go up from there. The last depression the Republicans started by playing stupid tariff games started in 1929 and only ended because of WW2.
I'm sure we'll have a depression that they won't even properly call a depression.
It's going to be very ugly with far-reaching consequences, even if this era's false king and his goons go bye-bye, it will ripple for a generation or more.
but given that, even if Trump reversed course today, everyone knows he could reverse THAT decision tomorrow, so no one is going to do anything but hunker down.
Layoffs in the auto industry were announced immediately on "Liberation Day." A lot more people are about to be liberated from their jobs in the coming months.
Drivers still voted for Trump after he eliminated all their "On the Road" tax deductions making their taxes go up around $2000/yr so they should not be a bit surprised when Trump screws them all completely out of their ability to make a living.
Yep, you're absolutly right, They have voted for Racism and it's looking like they are going to crash the country to keep from having a Black Woman succeed. Really sad too, she would have done a gerat job.
The staunchest GOPers are unable to see how everything is connected. They just wanted to have their racist / bigotry biases validated. Nevermind if tearing their country apart be the price to pay.
Actually most truck and air freight traffic in the US is moved by drivers employed or contracted by large companies...FedEx, UPS, Walmart, etc.
They aren't all white men who are independent truckers. Painting with a broad brush is a bad Idea
Exactly. That’s why we’re all gloating. It’s racism pure and simple. Now that it’s going to hurt them financially, will they face the fact that they were played?
And they would still vote for him, even after he bankrupts them. They would still vote for him even if he raped their children. They would vote for him even if he ordered Kristi Noem to kill their pets. They would vote for him no matter what atrocities he committed.
Once trump decides to bail out all his loyal bois & they figure out they can stay home & get paid by the government to do nothing, they'll clap each other on the back. Trump's WELFARE QUEENS are all WM farmers & about to add WM truckers, because you know zero NON-whites will get a trump bailout.
Analysts say that on West Coast a ship usually will dock at three different ports to unload to reduce trucker distance to destinations. With these fees the ships will probably only dock at one port. All trucks have to come to that port increasing truck expense to get to final destination.
This means ship owners will try to unload everything in one dock, creating huge traffic jam both at the dock, the rails, and the interstates. Also large container ship is not something you can just go out and get new ones from other places.
Trump will boast about how he made summer vacation travel on the Interstate highways so much nicer (“people have never see open roads like this”) by getting all those big trucks off the road.
Reminds me of when I went to pick a car up during a lockdown in 2020 - one motorway was like my own personal road, I could see for miles in each direction and not another vehicle in sight.
There will be bargain holidays to take inside the USA with the rest of the world not visiting resorts will fight over the few people left with some money
I was just talking about how tariffs will affect port operations jobs, crane operators and truckers.
It’s as if nobody cares enough to explain to trump how many people will lose their jobs and small businesses because of his absurd trade war.
1) nothing can be explained to him, he doesn’t want to understand, & has never needed to learn about anything. He is a self professed expert on everything. 2) jobs & small businesses? He could give a shit. If they’re not kissing his ass or lining his pockets, he doesn’t give a rats ass.
They probably voted for felon47 and if they did why?? He told you he was going to do just this.
Remember tariffs are easy to win? They are if you hold the cards he doesn't
Face eating leopards are having a smorgasbord. All those MAGA truckers going to be going hungry because their cult leader fucked the country over, destroyed the global economy, trashed the USG, ended alliances, violated our Constitution, and shat on the Resolute desk. #FAFO
When everything starts to go to shit, that is exactly what Dump will scream, however there will come a point, where it will wear thin. By then, though, it will be too late.
I'm an academic in entrepreneurship. I can see the trajectory he's taking. It's all about decimating small businesses. Rich people get richer; poor people get poorer. Poor people lose hope; they become malleable. Take less, do more. Be thankful for small things as the billionaires get richer.
The old school billionaires are going to be really pissed at the tech bro nouveau billionaires being so blatant and ruining their old scam in a manner that ends badly for them.
One outcome from all this is that GHG emissions will go down. I’m not for people losing economic security - just pointing out that Trump’s policies might have the unintended consequence of helping the environment- which he will absolutely hate.
Umm…I’m pretty confident his policies will hurt-not help the environment. He’s replacing clean energy with increased coal mining…he plans to “drill-baby-drill”, and has gutted the EPA, cut environmental sustainability research, grant funding, eduction programming, technology…
MAGA believed and voted for Trump- a convicted rapist (Kaplan), convicted fraudster, 6x failed businessman - and instead, got Putin’s blueprint for destroying America.
I was at our local shop yesterday for groceries and other household items. Several of the shelves were sparsely stocked or empty. The gal at the register said the usual truck delivery only had half of what usually arrives each week.
This usually happens in planned economies. And a tariff-economy is something like that, where the regime heavily interferes with economic processes.
Old GDR joke: "Have you heard that they'll introduce banana vending machines now?" "No! What is that?" "You put a banana in and a banknote comes out."
I heard another old DDR joke some years back: "A guy walks into a store, looks around at the empty shelves, and asks the shopkeeper, 'you don't have any shoes?' And the shopkeeper replies, 'no, I don't have any televisions. The guy with no shoes is next door.'
Yeah, we started it in 2020 because of the pandemic shortages(and I had always been curious about them). I like it a lot. Forces us to be flexible on what veggies we eat and cook with the season also.
Gotta big rig driver around the corner. Trump flags up for the past 8 years or so (at least when he’s home; when he’s on the road, wife takes all that shit down). He’s got a big fucking mouth and talked a lot of shit about Biden, etc.. So, like you said, not weeping for him, but we all suffer.
A lot of owner/operators are the sorts of dudes who want to "be their own boss," even though in practice they end up with worse lives than company drivers.
Oh yeah, I totally get it. My old man was “his own boss;“ he’s dead, my mom, 82, still works as a receptionist for a veterinarian and lives in an apartment because they had to sell their house a few years after he died. And these weren’t working poor people, or even particularly middle class people.
So many will lose their jobs! Not just the truckers but office people, warehouse people, the people in restaurants and such that provide food for these workers, dock workers, seamen, the people who take care of these workers children. HELL, it's going to be horrible!
Economists have been saying the best case is a recession, and a pretty bad one, for about 6 months now. And everyone thinks "yeah, but it won't affect _me_"...
The only mailer I've received from Teamsters (my union) since the election is one complaining that Senator Patty Murray didn't support Trump's pick for labor secretary. They have had literally nothing else to say.
Teamsters endorsed the candidate they thought was already going to win in the hopes that it might make the president more agreeable to negotiations. An unenviable position for them because there’s no universe in which trump gives them a good deal
To be clear, I think O’Brien is a coward and a fool. All of the Teamsters I know would never vote for Trump and are ashamed that their President would be on stage with him.
Yes, much to the chagrin of many Teamsters, but the President does not get to determine the endorsement by himself. The Teamsters Executive Board deliberated and was not able to reach consensus on endorsement.
Ok, but this is politics and symbolism matters. And sure, he didn't render a formal endorsement.
But people communicate with more than their words. They speak with their actions too. The message voters hear is conveyed by his presence, as it drowns out the message conveyed by his words.
their principle is to serve their members interests -- and when it became clear to the Teamster leadership that Harris was going to lose (and that their members supported Trump over Harris) they tried to limit the damage that Trump would cause their members.
the fact that you don't even acknowledge that ass-kissing is how MOST people get ahead in life (its sure not actual merit) tells me that you are more concerned with pushing your narrow, bubble based ideology than understanding what is going on.
Ya think? I don’t. See I was a Teamster. Maybe you are or were.
Teamsters are essentially Trumpers in the corner of the union I worked in. So the union isn’t so much an expert prognosticator of close elections as it is, like a lot of blue color America, more concerned about culture than economics
In the mid-1980s I left a great unionized job because our Teamsters chose the freedom to spread work related cancer & heart disease cases over rules against smoking at work.
So, I believe you.
And the UAW is endorsing the tariffs, thinking that there will be a manufacturing boom. If there is one - IF - it'll be in "right to work" states and few, if any, union jobs will result.
Then Trump will go about to destroy them, and all unions.
ILWU did, and they’re going to get fucked. Quite a few teamster locals did, and moreover these are your fellow countrymen so try not to giggle like a school child too much
Companies all over the US have no idea what is going to happen and how to plan for it. We are all at the mercy of the mad king and his court jesters (republicans in congress)
Anyone Fox News and the right wing propaganda machine tells them to but it definitely won’t be Trump or Republicans. Hell, they’ll probably blame DEI on this too.
That’s the #1 job for high school educated males in the US. So that’s a lot of angry unemployed men to have sitting around. They need to know unequivocally that this is Trump’s doing. The teamsters need to wake up! Musk and Trump is trying to automate them dead! A convulsive period ahead I’m afraid.
It shouldn't have taken them this long. My husband's job exports raw materials to east Asia. Their shipments dropped off dramatically almost immediately after the inauguration. I saw this coming, I saw it happening, I don't know why they didn't see it sooner.
All as per Putin's plan. This is a master class in the destruction of a democracy without firing a shot. Well, except for the one by Trump for the optics.
I think it’s silly to pretend that somehow its Putin “pulling the strings” when it’s very obvious that Trump and cronies are corrupt and enriching themselves.
Advocacy for Russia's Reinstatement in G7: Trump advocated for Russia's return to the G7 (making it the G8 again), despite its suspension following the annexation of Crimea, which many saw as an attempt to legitimize Russia's actions.
These are just a few I could think of off the top of my head.
Inaction on Russian Bounty Program: Reports emerged that Russia had offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The Trump administration was criticized for not taking decisive action in response to these reports.
Suspension of Military Aid to Ukraine: The Trump administration suspended military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine, pressuring Kyiv to participate in U.S.-led negotiations with Russia, which was seen as undermining Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression.
Withdrawal from the Open Skies Treaty: In 2020, the U.S. withdrew from the Open Skies Treaty, which allowed for unarmed aerial surveillance flights over member countries. This move was criticized for reducing transparency and potentially giving Russia a strategic advantage.
Easing Sanctions on Russian Entities: In 2019, the Trump administration lifted sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, despite bipartisan opposition in Congress.
Relaxation of Cybersecurity Sanctions: relaxed certain sanctions on FSB, allowing US transactions
When you say the consequences of our actions, what do you mean? You mean Trump does something, and we suffer as a result. Sure, Trump is vile, and always self serving. But what Trump is doing is undermining any possibility the US will ever have of normalizing as a nation state.
Because people like things to make sense. They want a cohesive narrative. "Somebody planned all this, and this is where it's going" vs. "A bunch of self-obsessed idiots are collectively causing chaos and we've no idea what'll happen tomorrow"
You're delusional.Putin is our shadow President, he's orchestrating the collapse of the US thru his proxy krasnov.Everything the 🍊 one is doing is exactly what Putin would do.
Whoever they voted for doesn’t really matter, the American people are worse off as truckers pick up less and less. You don’t understand the levels to which we are going to struggle to procure needed items in the not too distant future
By boyfriend is a professional driver for a national company who provides & repairs wooden pallets for shipping (importing & exporting). They’ve let go warehouse workers, lost accounts, & are closing storage facilities d/t lack of demand, d/t lack of cargo, d/t tariffs. 🤷🏻♀️ Shit rolls downhill.
In terms of whether we’ll still have JOBS? Little impact, I expect. Whether our jobs will be 10x harder than they already are d/t shortages? I guaran-damn-tee it. The suck is just going to get suckier.
Nah because they are passing legislation to cut Medicaid spending and changing laws on medical education requirements to treat the elderly and pregnant.
i work in a water testing lab. and costs are going to go up because of the same reason you mentioned. the chemicals and supplies are all made in other countries.
Pallets would seem to be a good barometer of cargo and goods coming in and out of the country. When that slows down the economy slows down. It's coming. And good luck to you both. This is so incredibly stoopid it's insane.
Maybe he got a lot of money from russia to completely destroy the US from the inside within 4 months? He's doing a great job there, mission almost completed🙈
A 67% drop in ocean freight booking to US . US ports will start feel impact from end of April. Full effect on consumers by 4th of July. Btw several importers are mom and pop shops and they have been hit by custom deficiency bonds requests. Which in turn will spike up insurance premiums.
This is due to the announcement of tariffs for a couple of days or whatever before he “postponed” them? Or due to the uncertainty of tariffs coming? Or what?
This is flow planning from a month ago = it will get worse. Already there are long berth waiting times at Asian and Europeans terminals. Plus USTR has a proposal on fees for Chinese shipping starting at $50 net ton (short ton?) from Oct 25 going to $140 in 28. A 60,000ton = 10mil a trip to US call 🔽
Plus, a $33ton or $250 container whichever is higher for Chinese built vessels. There is a 3 year weaver if they commit to take delivery of US built ships. But a) there are no makers of ships in that size and b) costs would make it non economical to run it. We are talking several billions per ship 🔽
So COSCO/OOCL CMA CGM Evergreen MSC etc will go to some non-US ports (Caribbean likely). Unload there. Then 4000TEU ships (exempt) will bring to US. And yes, prices will go up and supply down.
Holodomor rhymes with An Gorta Mór, which was also intentional. Charles Trevalyan discouraged Parliament from preventing starvation. It's happened before; it could happen again; it could even happen here.
There are too many people in this country who have been forced to live paycheck-to-paycheck who are about to go hungry or worse because of this. Quit rooting for failure just to hurt Trump. Remove Trump then push forward.
You can't just remove Trump, that doesn't solve the problem.
You have to destroy the entire Republican party, put a lid on their backers, and somehow show people they were wrong to vote that way.
It's not going to be as easy as removing one man.
Yes. I’m distraught that our only chance of neutralizing this monster is economic pain that will hurt the most vulnerable catastrophically. But if he stays in power, the disaster will be greater.
Even impeachment won’t save us. Vance is committed to destruction but will be less impulsive.
As far as I can tell from over here, Vance would be way worse. Less impulsive, as you say, but a truly committed religious idiot. That way lies Gilead.
True…folks from middle class down will be hurt the worst! Musk can lose 99% of his wealth and still have $4 billion …that’s crazy and sickening…living off govt contracts…
No shit Captain Obvious. But in every sense of the word, America is not a shithole country. It has plenty of shitheads, but it's not a shithole. And where do you live?
I live in a shithole country that spends quadruple in healthcare than anyone else and ranks 48th in life expectancy worldwide. The mountains sure are pretty, though.
Ehhh. Depends if you happen to be in the man marginalized groups we regularly mistreat, or if you happen to live in any of the many environmental hazard zones we’ve created, or if you happen to be not rich, the list goes on. It’s kind of always been a terrible place for a ton of people.
They are acting as though they don't need Republican voters anymore, and Republican voters are too pathetic to even ask for better than an R next to the name.
To be fair they have been acting like they don’t need voters, republican or any other kind, for a long time but republicans and independents both keep voting for them.
America depends on cheap
crap from China, moving from ports to Walmart/Costco/Target by truck and rail.
Trump has effectively banned imports from China, because businesses don’t have the capital to pay the steep tariffs in hopes of passing them onto consumers.
It’s okay. The Dems will take office. Things will get relatively better. But not fast enough so people will vote republican again who’ll fuck up the economy. Rinse and repeat.
What you will not love is shortages, hoarding, fistfights at the Costco and gun play at the Walmarts when the rationing begins.
Grocery stores are on average, 3 days away from empty shelves at any given time. They use JIT (just in time) inventory strategies. When the trucks stop, the food stops.
I don't disagree, we tried to tell these gormless lard bricks, but now the normals and the cultists alike will have to live through the consequences of our own ineptitude as a collective political body.
Doesn't mean I don't get to point and laugh at their misery
Unfortunately I think the only thing that will wake a portion of the cult up is the economic devastation Trump is going to bring down on them. Unfortunately the rest of us will be swept up in it, but maybe this finally breaks the fever for enough people.
A subset for sure will blame anyone but Trump, but we've seen Trumpers blame Trump for being laid off by DOGE. When things get bad and don't improve under Trump's watch it will eventually peel off more of his base.
I work in a large grocery chain and it's even tighter than 3 days. We literally aim at zero backstock..so if we don't receive a truck, we'll be empty almost immediately
Specialy in the fresh department. Veggie's employees have to face angry customer when the truck is 2 hours late. Meat will limit the numbers by clients (we met those angry clients who try to avoid the rule at the store front). Dairy department can survive only a 6 hours late truck.
Yeah this is something I wish people really understood about the economy.
If the rich people succeed at kicking everyone off medicaid because they don't want to pay for it, it's likely going to close the local hospital. You being able to pay for YOUR procedure doesn't pay all the bills.
Selfishness collapses ecosystems that we all depend on, rich or poor. If you starve the hospital to death, it won't be there for you in an emergency. And you may not survive the 2 hour emergency helecopter to the nearest surviving hospital.
Trucking won't collapse. This isn't our first recession, just a dumb self inflicted one. Will lots of truckers collapse? Sure. Several companies? Absolutely. Trucking? No
This is all part of the 2025 plan to destroy the nation by those planners.
tWump is just the vehicle.Vought and friends the masterminds
Then it will be easy to chop it into pieces to be sold to billionaires
And The People Be Damned
RESIST
By July 1, Americans will be streaming over the Mexican and Canadian borders looking to buy basic consumer goods that are now unavailable in their own country.
If you go in marinetraffic or other ship trackers you can see container ships are moving slowly. They don't make money if they move slow but they save on gas. Some ships are returning to the port they just left from. If there are fewer ships coming to port, truckers have less to haul.
Just the tip of the run-on effects of Trump's insanity. The crazy thing is it doesn't take someone with an economics degree to see exactly why this is happening and how bad it's going to get.
DEI is not the cause of any issues, other than being made up problem to push an agenda of hate and misinformation.
Classism, capitalism, neoliberalism, and Republican attacks on the working people, social programs, human rights, the economy, and facts is the problem.
Agreed. UPS has a strong DEI program they have refused to back away from. They are not the problem. That was my point. When the economy fails...both good and bad companies fail
This is how the real working class learns about being duped, shown to be fools, thrown under the bus. It’s also moving us all inexorably toward trumps political demise, hurrying his end. The inevitable collapse of the American economy will destroy trump. This is good.
The maga hat and slogan will become as loathed as the swastika is in Germany still. Until some jerks in the future, those whose grandmas proudly voted for Kamala Harris, decide to thumb their nose at decent society by donning the red cap and cosplaying maga. One might be encouraged to punch them.
This is so surreal. It's like watching a tsunami crash over America. First the freight, then the truckers, then the retailers & manufacturers, then the employees... All swept off their feet and thrown into a maelstrom of various objects, people, cars, you name it. It's all getting thrown about.
That's why you have to give them an out that allows them to change their future actions: Trump lied to them. (We already knew that, but they didn't.) They were fine with the racism, bigotry, and misogyny as long as Trump followed through on his promises to them, and he has not. They should be mad.
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It’s almost as if we were a part of a really complex, global exchange of goods network and that all the players and pieces of that system could be severely affected by introducing massive and volatile changes on a whim.
Don’t forget the massive cuts to government workers that so many said “oh well, there is so much waste in the government” remember many of those people bought products that truckers moved around the country and they have kids and parents too. it’s called trickle down economy
The Teamsters and Longshoremen's unions did not endorse VP Harris. That puts them in the bucket of "Those Guys" who think that POTUS is a man's job. They chose to vote against their own interests, just as the miners here in Iron County did. Our Iron mine just closed due to market instability
They didn’t care. Making liberals feel aggravated for no reason was just too enticing. So was the prospect of making women, POC and trans people feel fearful and miserable.
You can clear a room by tossing in a rat, but using an elephant gets much more attention and does the job faster.
In the 1970s truckers did it in a way that shut down damn near every interstate in the country for the better part of a week. Repeatedly. For months. And garnered massive support.
All those union guys that thought.... well, actually they didn't think....they did what they were told. Guess what, your union leaders are rich, Shawn Fain could really care less as long as hes good. That's why he's aligned with the felon
They should get fucked harder than the west coast longshoremen, however in reality, the ILWU members are probably going to suffer the most because most west coast ports are receiving a good chunk of cargo from China, east coast less so.
Be careful that you dont propagate misinformation with phrases like "all those union guys". Many of us are staunchly anti-trump and recognize what an existential threat he represents.
My lived experience is a bit different. From the big 3 state. My family is union. They are out numbered by the magts ,most are low information voters that hate POC and women. The disgusting stories these creatures tell about Harris JFC. The GOP had a union president speak at their klan rally.
My lived experience as a union public employee (AFSCME) is that public employee labor unions are FREQUENTLY made up largely of women, POC, and immigrants, vote democratic, and are fighting Trump in court, and that's why they're trying so hard to fire public employees & strip labor rights.
Im merely suggesting you not associate organized labor as a whole with Trumpism or Fain. Trump is very anti-union and has been even before he was politically active.
Many rank and file union members recognize this, and their voting reflects that.
The smaller ports will be closing soon without any ships coming in. The larger ports will see a downturn of 50-75%. Within 30-90 days. The life we’ve known is over. Get ready.
Damn. The dominoes I see falling in my head based off of this is dramatic. Truck stops for one. They're about to lose most of their clientele for a spell.
Just like a privileged arrogant NEPO baby Trump took everything for granted not understanding our economy was built on principle , law and hard work and not an inheritance.
I think I'm finally going hysterical. I haven't laughed this hard since November and I know the consequences, but one of my dad's friends is a trucker for trump. He's gonna call sometime and be so sad or mad and it's his own stupid, uneducated fault. The FAFOs are getting funnier but also scarier
I suspect Cassandra meant ports paid for by China, built in Canada and Mexico.
I don’t think there is room to build more in Canada. At least on the west coast.
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Though TP won’t necessarily be limited supply a whole bunch of other things will. It’s why people have been stocking up on essentials for the last month as Trump danced around implementing tariffs.
I know corn has different types to feed cows or humans at their digestion world differently.
Could imagine it's the same with soy?
And most of soy produced is to produce meat?
codescrew.https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ln3oydfdu22v
Truckers have been completely destroyed by Trump even though most of them don’t know it yet
Great job voting MAGA. Maybe you can go block DC like you did Ottawa
You did, didn’t you?
Soon the only people crossing the border will be American smugglers?
Because it's farther North.
Why does Canada have to be ruthless and strict? Because they're under direct threat from an adjacent nuclear power, that's why, and they can't afford to welcome MAGA infiltrators.
* Not just goods from China but anything from anywhere in a ship built in China - thats 60% of some big companies fleets. https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/trump-administration-announces-fees-on-chinese-built-vessels-at-us-ports/ar-AA1D9nW0?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Really? That's your go-to as your country falls apart?
When everybody else pays
For someone else's mistake
This blame takes shape
Still everybody else pays
For someone else's mistake
I’m sure Trump will set aside his ego to remove tariffs and help Americans through this.
And yes, that was sarcasm.
Great again? NO!
Get someone plugged into the Central Asian and Sikh trucker mafias to tell them this is all Trump's fault and they can fix it by blockading the WH, Capitol Hill, and Mar-a-Lago.
but if it is going to happen outside our control, fast is better.
Some people are going to die because of this.
https://bsky.app/profile/eurovanman.bsky.social
Brainwashed rubes, the lot of them.
Last week she sent retainer agreements to three new clients.
This week she heard that they will not be retaining her because of the tariffs.
All thanks to our smartbidnessman president.
Trump's "bigly jenius bizness brain" in action, yet again...
There will be no pens, pencils, highlighters, binders, backpacks… you name it.
The entire section at big box stores simply won’t have any inventory.
Most pens/pencils/markers are manufactured in the US (with international components). The Mexico tariffs being the most impactful there.
I know of a great warehouse with a manufacturing arm, in Maryville, TN that we can visit sometime.
Sharpie S-gel pens and Five Star College Ruled Notebook Paper: 25% tariff on Mexico
The real killer is going to be Baby safety products.
90% of those in the US are made in China, and I'm not sure people can stomach a 250% price increase on that
People think of regular retail items as the things that will be more scarce.
But it's going to be the unavailability of taken-for-granted, small but crucial unseen parts and components that's going to be the kicker. Those supply chains are delicate, intricate, particular.
If an Ace Bandage cost $150 on insurance before the tariffs... multiply that by 250%, carry the supply chain increases...
My main worry for the kid safety is use after expiration
But when any of them need replacement batteries or AC chargers? Sorry. Literally can’t find any to buy, or prices are 3x.
It’s the monthly consumables where logistics get bad for households.
Will this finally be enough to get them to start actually thinking about what they and the other Trump voters have done?
And, sure, I know it wasn't just them.
More than 87 MILLION voters did not vote.
What a mess.
Don't believe what you see and can actually substantiate.
Trump keeps saying he walked into a 'giant mess' ...
Yeah, 𝒂𝒏 𝒆𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒐𝒎𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒆𝒏𝒗𝒚 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒍𝒅.
And the Trumpies buy it.
https://bsky.app/profile/dataandpolitics.net/post/3ln2u7hxgus2b
Can you 3D print clothes and housewares? Asking for a friend.
The few we have need chinese supplies
Mack Truck announces layoffs — due to truck orders that have been “negatively affected by .. the impact of tariffs.”
The current state of things...months. At least. Unless drastic measures are taken.
Saying weeks is bananas.
You can't painlessly decouple from your 3rd greatest trading partners. Embargoing China alone means major damage to the US economy, specially in such short notice.
Every other country is happy that they can cut big chunks of the US market for themselves.
Freight alone is 1% of the US jobs market.
And everything has a scale effect. It will be bloody.
It's going to be very ugly with far-reaching consequences, even if this era's false king and his goons go bye-bye, it will ripple for a generation or more.
but given that, even if Trump reversed course today, everyone knows he could reverse THAT decision tomorrow, so no one is going to do anything but hunker down.
If you don't know like me.
Truckers in Red States don't change any outcomes and most in Blue States vote Democratic.
They aren't all white men who are independent truckers. Painting with a broad brush is a bad Idea
/Sarcasm/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/g38674719/covid-shortages/
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/17/trump-administration-announces-fees-on-chinese-ships-docking-at-us-ports.html
How many dyslexic or poorly educated white Americans are going to fail?
https://bsky.app/profile/conorsen.bsky.social/post/3ln2gkuls4k2r
No tourists in sight. 🤷♂️
Was tempted to pull up and have a walk.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trucker-convoy-drives-laps-dc-beltway-rcna18916
It’s as if nobody cares enough to explain to trump how many people will lose their jobs and small businesses because of his absurd trade war.
Convoy !!!!!
Normal people live and work in DC and don't need to have their neighborhoods made unliveable.
See:https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6351432
Remember tariffs are easy to win? They are if you hold the cards he doesn't
"Fucking Biden"
All Hong Kong mail has been stopped.
Surface now, air by the end of the month.
After that China will get more serious. Probably until Trump is gone.
FAFO.
Brilliant Diplomatic Strategy.
🇮🇪🇪🇺🇲🇽🇨🇦
No business can survive that.
But I think this is a bigger tiger 🐅 than they thought they caught. Much bigger.
Old GDR joke: "Have you heard that they'll introduce banana vending machines now?" "No! What is that?" "You put a banana in and a banknote comes out."
https://www.ilwu.org/2024-elections-whats-at-stake-for-ilwu-members/
But people communicate with more than their words. They speak with their actions too. The message voters hear is conveyed by his presence, as it drowns out the message conveyed by his words.
She had nothing good to say about him.
Not all Teamsters are as wonderful as @jortsthecat.bsky.social
So if a union's only principle is to serve its members, then why should someone not in a union, like me, support them?
Teamsters are essentially Trumpers in the corner of the union I worked in. So the union isn’t so much an expert prognosticator of close elections as it is, like a lot of blue color America, more concerned about culture than economics
So, I believe you.
Then Trump will go about to destroy them, and all unions.
All they will admit is "we were misled".
There's no cure for stupidity.
We are about 90 days away from providing direct military aid to Putin.
These are just a few I could think of off the top of my head.
Relaxation of Cybersecurity Sanctions: relaxed certain sanctions on FSB, allowing US transactions
Why was Russia exempted from tariffs?
as is cuba, north korea and Belarus
you can just google that, you know
like “obviously this has to be russia’s doing??? no way this could merely be the consequences of our actions????”
See also: Swiss Cheese Model.
NATO is close to collapsing, US sanctions on Russia are going away and he's likely to get Ukraine, etc., - best money Vlad has ever spent.
some medicine ingredients (chemicals, fillers, bottles), some complete packaged medicines, lot of things like tubing, needles, IV bags, etc.
medical equipment, like wheelchairs, electronic monitors, pumps, etc
On both sides of this shipment equation who are scrambling and screwed.
But - let Trump face the consequences of his stupidity. Most of us in this line of work can weather a brief storm.
HES A MENACE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Is brushing up
You have to destroy the entire Republican party, put a lid on their backers, and somehow show people they were wrong to vote that way.
It's not going to be as easy as removing one man.
Even impeachment won’t save us. Vance is committed to destruction but will be less impulsive.
Very soon they'll get a painful lesson why it's a bad idea to put dumb people in charge.
Store shelves empty of the product that I want.
No lines at the gas/convenience store.
Much lighter traffic.
Recession is arriving.
A third or so of America want every single thing to happen that will make it a shit hole and don't even realise that this will happen.
We warned them. We gave them the evidence.
They ignore us, and tell us we're libtards, and cucks, and traitors.
It's ALMOST at the point where the
And they STILL won't listen, and they won't believe it.
If that support are from being lied to and misguided, or just plain simple evil, the outcome is exactly the same.
Time to face the fact, actions have consequences.
Inactions have consequences, too
After Watergate America needed to burn the Republican party to the ground and salt the Earth where it once stood.
Instead they ignored the problem and got this
crap from China, moving from ports to Walmart/Costco/Target by truck and rail.
Trump has effectively banned imports from China, because businesses don’t have the capital to pay the steep tariffs in hopes of passing them onto consumers.
Modern chains are efficient but …
A drop in truck bookings means businesses aren’t ordering goods. Even if Trump changes course immediately, the damage may take years to fix.
Trump is old. If someone doesn’t kill me I’ll outlive him.
Dumbasses. So fucking dumb.
Grocery stores are on average, 3 days away from empty shelves at any given time. They use JIT (just in time) inventory strategies. When the trucks stop, the food stops.
Doesn't mean I don't get to point and laugh at their misery
If the rich people succeed at kicking everyone off medicaid because they don't want to pay for it, it's likely going to close the local hospital. You being able to pay for YOUR procedure doesn't pay all the bills.
If trucking collapses, we're all in trouble.
tWump is just the vehicle.Vought and friends the masterminds
Then it will be easy to chop it into pieces to be sold to billionaires
And The People Be Damned
RESIST
or, i guess, not getting it? probably didn't need what was in those 1 million containers anyways.
#LosingMyEmpathy
UPS has thousands laid-off.
Classism, capitalism, neoliberalism, and Republican attacks on the working people, social programs, human rights, the economy, and facts is the problem.
Doesn’t have to make sense.
And now we all have to suffer so they can feel the pain of their own short-sighted stupidity. Fuck #47
Some of these people will suffer bankruptcy and privation before they admit they fucked up and fuck themselves. And some stil won't.
Because then they come for the truckers.
Try to stop yourself, when you use this phrase in the near future. Please.
Check mate liberal!
We’re headed for the 1970s.
It’s 1920 all over again
In the 1970s truckers did it in a way that shut down damn near every interstate in the country for the better part of a week. Repeatedly. For months. And garnered massive support.
https://www.ilwu.org/2024-elections-whats-at-stake-for-ilwu-members/
Shawn Fain is the exception not the rule.
The numbers back me up: https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/while-other-voters-moved-away-from-the-democrats-union-members-shifted-toward-harris-in-2024/
Many rank and file union members recognize this, and their voting reflects that.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-is-america-not-a-fluke/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgzwbWCVCM
They'll be happy to pickup the slack
More Fox News for you. Fool.
I don’t think there is room to build more in Canada. At least on the west coast.
https://jeffnewmanlaw.com/china-funding-port-constructions-in-mexico-to-shorten-shipping-routes-to-the-u-s-back-door/
https://apnews.com/article/china-peru-port-poverty-latin-america-1e06904f76cca1d7aaf19bca8bd24d93