he's lowkey spitting but missing the fact that 2019-2020 twitter, dogshit as it may have been, remains lightyears ahead of whatever the fuck is going on there right now
And he believes there is some magic specific “lane”…not their are thousands of “lanes” and you can be in as many as you want…it’s just that dickheads get told they are such
That's what this place feels like to me. I dig it; it makes me nostalgic for the days when you were more likely to have authentic conversations on social media than have to wade through piles of performative BS.
exactly-- less noise, clutter, BS and real connections. I'm newb (should have been an early adopter but was not really on social when all that went down), but glad to be here now :)) refreshing. Real conversations.
Unfortunately, without liars and fraudsters, Bsky will never gain the critical mass of lawmakers and pundits necessary to be as relevant as old Twitter
Yes, because Nate is a maverick, a free thinker if you will, one who refuses to be boxed in by conventional thinking. That's why people don't praise him.
He is right about 2019-20 Twitter though. The site was already on a downward trajectory, it’s just Elon got in the cockpit, aimed the nose toward the ground and then kicked in the afterburners
It has way better vibes than Twitter in the few years before Elon bought it out, in a way that I don't think Twitter ever could've gotten back to, even in an alternate timeline where the Elon deal never happens.
Also who are all these people saying that Bluesky is like 2019 twitter and saying that’s a good thing. I’m pretty sure nate’s basing that on exactly one (1) post from a poster he absolutely can’t be normal about
That’s how I feel as well. I also feel like the ethos and tools available reduce the kinds of behaviors (quote dunking for instance) that often really did make late stage, pre-Elon Twitter pretty miserable.
He's never had fun online. He's enjoyed being a popular wonk and being a data pervert. There is no joy in his work and now he can't even pretend he knows things.
Nate's always been a bit of a prick. I'd bet if someone had a log of his https://alt.rec.baseball posts and folks read them, they would be like "Holy shit, what an asshole!"
I’m sure there were real substantive changes to the Twitter vibes during these two eras but I also think it’s very funny that Nate is mad about the Twitter vibes when people were mad at his model instead of the Twitter vibes when people were praising him as some kind of math Nostradamus
Like hey man maybe this particular shift is more personal than you realize, maybe social media was happier when people were happier with you instead of mad at you for “missing” a forecast
I mostly agree, but think a difference for him in specific is that he wants to be in with the 'cool' crowd and well, most of us are living in 2024 now. So its 2012 vibes with 2024 maturity.
He's still stuck in 2015 maturity at best, so he's been left behind and is sad about that.
There is nothing stopping people from coming in and setting up their own communities (lib-grifters are doing it as we speak). Like you said it’s not that they can’t build an audience here. It’s that they hate the thought of their posts not being forced on people who don’t want to see them.
the sad thing is that the other big factor in pre-elon late-stage twitter sucking was that the president was tweeting the platform into semi-regular chaos. But (a) what do you think 2025 is going to be (b) can't really escape him, he's the president, his awful nonsense isn't just confined to tweets
Frankly the worst thing about pre-Elon post-Trump Twitter was all the big accounts built on Trump RTs were desperate for content and summoning their followings to attack accounts with like 13 followers who used clumsy phrasing.
the number one worst thing about the new influx feeling like 2019 is all the resist libs and grifters who got big from 2016-2020 flooding the place. guys like nate were also part of what sucked then
There is all that, but with no "left audience" he wouldn't be happy. We just don't give a rat's ass to his awful takes. He doesn't like speeches to his choir much; only when they dogpile. He has nothing to say to them.
His reference to a Web site as a.) a “place on Earth” and b.) the “most miserable” one in 2019* suggests he might not be the sharpest tool in the shed. 🤔
(*surely a surprise to more than a few Yemenis and Syrians)
I’d be shocked if he wasn’t lurking here with an alt, morosely name searching himself while waiting to see if a weird parlay in the Estonian Wife Carrying Championship pays out
I have many regrets but one of most infuriating his buying his yellow ass book so long ago--just to have some baby boomer who just heard about him praise his skinny ass after reading his newest book--because he brags about poker, which she *thinks* her little prince is good at too.
F_ck!!
Despite what Mr. Silver said in that tweet, it looks like he may have, in fact, already joined Bluesky. There's an account for https://natesilver538.bsky.social --although it's not active yet. It could be an imposter, I guess, but it has 9.5K followers, leading me to think that it is a legit account.
I'm sorry but not one single person anywhere, even still on Twitter thinks it was good in 2020. And most of the people here are explicitly nostalgic for 2014 Twitter. He's inventing a reality as an excuse.
And I don’t been the beginning of Bluesky. I mean the beginning of social media. If you didn’t have to wait for your D111 college to be added to Facebook in order join, I can’t relate.
he's right that this place could use a bit more diversity in dominant topics of conversation aside from "left wing politics" and "pet pictures". Blocking the scum is a great feature but this place is getting pretty echo chamber-y
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It's like a Drama Queen and 1st World White Privilege somehow made a baby and didn't love it enough.
But I'd throw a sweet alley-oop pass for someone taller and more athletic to dunk.
I’d block him like Mutombo.
and i am the winner
Not gonna happen, Nate.
Not.
Gonna.
Happen.
he’d still end up with a huge audience and be able to post whatever in peace, it’s a skill issue
He's still stuck in 2015 maturity at best, so he's been left behind and is sad about that.
i don't follow him / pay attn
(*surely a surprise to more than a few Yemenis and Syrians)
Was never asked and no one cared.
F_ck!!
🤔 wonder what I should rename him
Nate Copper
Man, that seems like a really long time to be nice to Nate Silver.
'Oh I know all the baseball stats! I earn money from this!' OKAY NERD
Also, little does he know that the best Twitter was before 2007-2012 (and it's kinda what BSky feels like).
Nate Silver hasn't grown in my estimation, rather akin to Twitter.
Did anyone ask?
Yeah, you have to live on plant earth where vaccines work and having a worm in your brain is a bad thing.