i keep thinking of products that are made of multiple materials. 47% tariff here, 30% tariff there, … every single product has multiple tariffs applied to it. our president is a genius.
Coffee is in coffee ice cream and what else? Chocolate is in chocolate ice cream and what else? Pistachios are in pistachio ice cream but what else? 🤦🏻♂️
Waiting for the trump administration to declare it'll only drop the tariffs on Madagascar once it surrenders the NYC Central Park Zoo escapees and gets a formal apology from King Julien of Madagascar.
And then the inevitable Marco Rubio double down on it and fox news week long triple down
Among other things, this is giving “I’ve never baked anything in my life.” Guessing he thought that was his mom’s job 🙄 That level of ignorance is…unattractive.
The educated do have a significant advantage currently - get out there and buy the imported products that will either completely disappear from your shelves or require selling a kidney to afford.
Another suggestion do yur own baking and make yeast at home. Invest in a flour mill buy wheat berries in bulk store them properly grind and bake yourself. 1 cup standard store bought = about 1 and 1 1/4 cups self milled. Soft white wheat berries where you start hard red too. Saves money
Nope. I am telling you get as many beans as possible & bourbon. Slice each bean a bit the long way, pop them in a jar, pour bourbon till jar is full add lid, wait 6 weeks. When you use up all liquid in jar refill it wait 6 weeks again use all liquid & beans as needed. Get new beans start again.
I have not... Though I think I have heard of it being done. Also with vodka. I have found bourbon offers the best flavor in my experience. There may be recipes online using everclear. You should look.
(facepalm) Well, it goes in Coca-Cola, for a start. Back in the day, "New Coke" dropped the natural vanilla and it briefly cratered Madagascar's economy.
Most baked goods, most "custards" (Ice cream, yogurt, Gelato), sweet creams, many sodas, most cake, basically all cookies and doughnuts, some coffee and tea. It's very common.
My rule of thumb is to put about 2x the vanilla in the recipe. Or it was. After tomorrow and probably Tuesday, I'm not sure when I'll be able to afford vanilla. But I'll probably be eating fewer baked goods, since coffee will also be out of reach.
Honestly, it's in almost every sweet thing you eat. Pretty much all ice cream regardless of the flavour, most sweet baked goods, most chocolate and other confectionery. It's a kind of magical "make taste better" ingredient, like the sweet version of salt.
Reading comprehension is a skill. I hate using the sarcasm punctuation “/s” … but I do. Because few Americans read. So, they don’t get the nuances of the written word.
It's so weird that something ridiculously expensive ( and that actually has a very strong flavour if you use much at all ) became a symbol of generic / mild flavour because of this.
As Neathra said, basically all baking. In addition, huge numbers of non-dessert or sweets based recipes - there are a ton of sauces and condiments that include some. Vanilla is a flavor so broad based in its uses, most people don't realize how important it is to day-to-day cooking..
In 2024, the US vanilla extract market was valued at over USD 939.3 million and is expected to grow at a 4.5% CAGR until 2034, driven by demand in food, beverage, and cosmetic industries, as well as the preference for natural and organic products.
It's the base flavoring for every dessert, candy, & sweet baked good, plus pretty much every sweetened drink. Other flavors, like chocolate, are layered on top of it.
Most baked goods, desserts, ice creams, yogurts, coffees, breakfast items, packaged cookies, breads, treats, candles, sodas, teas, some meal entrees, perfumes/colognes, room sprays, medicine, bug repellent, stain remover, alcoholic beverages, & spiritual practices use vanilla in one form or another
God I would not want to eat with Jason, I'm betting the bro still has buttered baked chicken like they made in the '60s when they were worried spice would corrupt white people
Almost every baked good-- cookies, cakes, sweet breads -- needs a little shot of vanilla. Candies, sodas, and flavored coffee and tea, too; It enhances flavor magically. It's also a major ingredient in perfumes.
I'm not sure if you're asking about vanilla or what else from elsewhere will also affect a whole lot in the US in the coming days/months, but I suspect 0 thought went into any of that AT ALL & it will be a fuck-ton of this, that, & the other thing draining the pockets of Americans, IF they even CAN.
No bc it’s so MINDBLOWING that these idiots have never once thought that we import the majority of our goods. MINDBLOWING. The U.S. doesn’t produce jack shit.
OK but your armour gets pretty expensive if you stop buying steel from Canada. Or if Canada stops selling you steel, as we certainly would if you invade us or some other NATO ally.
Oh yeah of course. Even goods produced here in the US require raw materials imported from other countries. I was just being reductive for satirical purposes.
It was indeed satirical. :)
Steel, is actually one of the things you have to be most willing to tariff, because it's so easy to find yourself on the battlefield against an army from the country who used to be your (foreign) steel suppliers. That isn't going to end well.
Me & my fellow farm-kid friends showed livestock at our county fair & one family had dairy cows they milked in a booth open to the public during the fair. We would do stupid stuff like pump a tail up & down to get the “city kids” to think that’s how the milk came out. They often believed us…
Tea is also not produced in the United States. Most of it (about ⅔ of world production) comes from China and India, which have tariff rates of 34% and 26% respectively.
I can't even find kona coffee around here that isn't 90% arabica blend and 10% kona. Kona is already expensive, it's about to be as expensive as printer ink
They always answer "Hawaii!" which produces a tiny amount of incredibly expensive gourmet coffee that wouldn't make enough cups of coffee for one morning commute in Manhattan.
Yeah, you could turn over every acre in the entire state to coffee production and it probably wouldn't make enough coffee to feed California's demand, let alone the whole country.
Christ, that's Southern California out of the coffee business. It's almost like it's better to let another country with a more suitable climate grow it, then buy it off them...
The USA isn't big enough to house 300 million Americans in the manner to which they are accustomed whilst also growing all of their own food, not even if they bulldozed every national park and forest to turn it into farmland. BIG changes would need to happen.
If you have the correct temp/soil/humidity to plant a commercial coffee crop, it will take 3-5 YEARS for the plants to set fruit. Then there's picking, processing, and distributing. Mmm, can't wait for all that cafe Americano to start rolling across the country. https://kitchensurfers.com/how-long-does-coffee-plant-take-to-mature/
Genuine question: Can't it be grown in greenhouses (or other climate-controlled places)? I assume it would just be even more expensive than just paying the tariff.
Even then, it will be a decade before a viable US Coffee trade is up and running, by then, most Americans will have forcibly weaned themselves off the habit
What's funny about this is you can buy coffee from Hawaii but it's *always* been more expensive than coffee from Central America and most coffee exporting countries
Precious few items are not imported or don't use imported components.
These people are uneducated and completely ignorant of facts beyond their isolated existence, and do not possess the imagination necessary to project possibilities beyond their personal experience.
Welcome to the Idiocracy prequel. In fact, I think I saw an IPO on Wall Street for an amazing new drink called Brawndo which is going to help solve an emerging water shortage.
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Tweet from a journalist who notes 70% of vanilla supply comes from Madagascar with a 47% tariff on it now.
Angry Trumper reply under says that only affects ice cream.
"Determined ignorance" is a defining trait of Trump and his followers. Regardless of whatever evidence is presented to them, they will hold on grimly to their ignorance.
I don't even know what to say anymore. Smh. This has to be willful ignorance at this point, right? Also, I need to go buy at least 5 bottles of vanilla right now.
all that but they have stricter regulations that americans don't meet so don't get access to the markets, like higher fuel efficiency and not driving a giant knife down the street like a cybertruck.
This is more the point, yeah.
American cars are too big and too dangerous.
If they want to sell more cars abroad they should build them to foreign standards instead of boorishly insisting on their own.
I read that American cars got so big because there was a regulation about emissions for cars passed in the early 2000s and the way around for car makers was to sell cars that would fall in the van category and, therefore, be exempt.
GM was in Europe with Opal and Vauxhall brands until … Trump’s first term when they sold them to Stellantis. Ford is in Europe still, and was doing well until they killed their compact cars off.
Providing a better product, that is desired more around the world… sells more. That is literally how capitalism is supposed to work. Tariffs are corporate socialism. Instead of letting these industries fight it out, we are providing them cover at our own cost.
Everyone knows American product sucks, that's why Xbox is still a shitty console despite Microsoft owning half the industry and their direct rivals having barely any exclusives in their console
I remember reading that back in the early 80s the Japanese were worried about the new K body cars. So they bought one and disassembled it and knew then they had nothing to worry about.
Hard to emphasize enough that American-made consumer goods are primarily sold in America to Americans because we are a very large, rich country that can afford to consume our own products.
When I was a child, I at least knew vanilla went into a chocolate cake because I played the cake-baking mini game in Humongous Entertainment's Fatty Bear game.
Vanilla is not naturally in chocolate. It's an additional ingredient like raspberry flavoring or caramel or sea salt. I've visited enough cacao farms, eaten enough raw cacao, made enough chocolate and taken enough chocolate-making classes to know this.
My friend, is the A productive argument to have? Did you think the person you replied to thought there was vanilla in cacao? Do you understand they clearly meant most products we eat that folks consider "chocolate flavored"? You can simply accept that sometimes language is imprecise.
Even if it was ONLY in vanilla ice cream, I would love to see the focus groups on “we’re going to get rid of vanilla ice cream” as a policy. I bet that polls super well.
I would go further and say that some business’ vanilla ice cream, like Dairy Queen’s, taste plasticky.
Some with serious v bean action is delicious.
But I’ll take chocky
Although it get’s lots of hate me, my daughter, and son love it and are borderline addicted. Like we would riot, it think the people who like it, love it.
I’m no fan myself but my MAGA mother in law was eating it by the pint in 2021 because Joe Biden was going to ban it when he took power and we became communist. I think even she might flip sides if it goes away.
Does vanilla get a lot hate? I think a lot of people think of it as sort of "generic" because it's white and it's used as a base in so many different flavors. But it is a rich, complex flavor, enjoyed by most.
I’m sure the people that know know but as a kid it was literally thrown around as the worst ice cream that was a last resort and i think that was not an uncommon sentiment.
Vanilla is basically the base of a handful of ice cream flavors. Panda Paws, Cookies N Cream, those special flavors made to represent sports teams, and probably Birthday Cake. Once I'm no longer able to get my Cookie Dough, it's on.
Like ‘bread’ is called yeast bread?? Or water bread?? Or ‘cake’ is called flour and sugar but doesn’t contain anything called ‘cake’. Vanilla, as an important #ingredient, is in so many recipes for cakes , puddings, etc. They don’t quite taste the same without it.
But it's much easier to avoid saffron than it is vanilla. Virtually every baked good calls for v., but one can't say that virt. ev. savory dish calls for saffron. Higher prices for vanilla will affect a *lot* of ppl/prdcts.
I bake a lot but can't afford v. (I'm med.-debt-twice broke)--I miss it.
Again, this was more about the weird vanilla conspiracists who think all store bought vanilla is imitation, and that the real stuff is (currently) >$1k. Totally agree on the tariffs being poop for economics.
Saffron is indeed the most expensive, but Madagascar is about to be decimated by these tariffs, and they've already experienced decades of rampant exploitation.
Completely agree - just really tired of this bizarre implied narrative that grocery store vanilla extract is 100% fake and real vanilla is thousands of dollars hoarded by the elite. I have a sprig in a bottle from a gift that'll last me years, and I'm poor af.
A vanilla bean plant can be purchased from anywhere between 20 and 100 dollars and can be grown indoors they take well to pots ... anyone who thinks vanilla is overly expensive is goofy. We've simply always had a teetering global trade market.
Not really. US commercial baked goods use fake, chemically manufactured vanillin. Europe and other places laces will still buy the real product and so will connoisseurs and chefs in the US.
There's artificial vanilla flavouring, no doubt most American "vanilla" ice-cream is made with that anyway because it's cheaper, and on a bonus, the vanilla harvest hasn't been good for a couple of years so when they don't export to the US there's more of the real stuff for us in Europe :)
Penzeys!
Their Vanilla is pricey.
Costco has perfectly-okay Kirkland Vanilla for sale on website: two bottles for $13.99, with free shipping (for members).
every single dessert ever. like not even necessarily just cakes and cookies or whatever i can’t think of a single dessert ive made that didnt contain vanilla
plus anything that’s primarily vanilla flavored is gonna use (or at least should use) actual vanilla bean, not just extract. like a custard or something
Industrial farming is problematic, unfortunately the situation is complex enough that the current administration is incapable of helping (assuming they even wanted to)
Right?! There's a reason why the spice trade was A Whole Thing and literally gave rise to and shaped empires. Look at the list of top pepper countries and guess what they all have in common. (Spoiler alert: they are all being hit with new, ridiculous, not at all reciprocal tariffs.)
my brother tried to tell me yesterday that the tariffs aren’t a big deal because manufacturing will get reshored, but that’s not going to happen in any reasonable length of time and Americans will not go without their treats.
Those everyday luxuries are going to become the toilet paper and sausage of the USSR circa 1980.
When or even if it becomes available wait in line for two hours hoping they don't run out before you get to the counter, pay 5x what it's worth, get home and discover it's 10% sawdust.
We cannot reshore coffee growing! Hawaii cannot supply the coffee demands of more than 100 million coffee drinkers. And don’t even get me started on chocolate!
Hyundai announced a plan to open a steel plant in Louisiana - won’t be open till 2030. Jesus - do people think manufacturing plants can be built as quickly as tract housing?
He actually brought up that exact plant in the discussion. If these tariffs stick, there’s not going to be anything to build with by the time they break ground next year.
not only does it take years to build factories, and the goods produced will be much more expensive due to higher labor costs, and those factories will cost trillions to build (if you want to onshore literally everything), but businesses don't want to invest in them because trump is so unpredictable
businesses want predictability almost more than anything else. they have no way to plan for the future now. they could sign a billion dollar construction contract and then a month into construction musk stops the tariffs to help tesla and now it's impossible for the factory to compete
And the part none of them seem to understand…..unless they’re all mechanized factories….we have no one to work in them.
So I’d ask every one of those people how they feel about child labor because we can’t even get enough people in the trades or construction right now.
They do indeed. I want them to understand the full picture of the regime they are signing up for
It includes child labor, none of the key products they want without high costs since the raw materials are not actually in the US, and pissing off every ally until we are alone and walled off
So…Gilead
I may be extra grouchy since I have to go to a freaking tariff update meeting on Tuesday at work. We already had to design supply chains around those in the first Trump term
Some states have done it at least a yr, if not 2 yrs ago. If there's anything that can be said for the GOP's conniving, it's that they invest in a long game & do evrything possible to see it through regardless of who it harms. The rot btwn them & the 1% has ALWAYS been deeper than 🇺🇸's want to admit.
Manufacturing won't be restored, even in the long run bc YS manufacturers still need to im poo out supplies. Volatile tariffs that can be put in place or removed every 4 years isn't a stable environment to predict business costs and sales. This will run US manufacturers out of business.
The people who were like “we can just grow vanilla here” were so funny like yeah we let Madagascar do it instead of growing it cheaper here because of woke. Not because of the conditions vanilla needs to grow.
"[T]he Jones Act . . . requires that all goods transported by water between U.S. ports be carried on ships that have been constructed in the United States and that fly the U.S. flag, are owned by U.S. citizens, and are crewed by U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents."
This is one of the things that frustrated me tbh. There's a wide overlap between people who will tell you capitalism is good because you can get a 60 inch TV for $400 and people who don't have even a basic understanding of why globalism in trade is absolutely essential for that reality
Exactly, if they start selling TVs that are made in Alabama or Texas they’re not going to be much cheaper than one made in china and slapped with a 54% tariff. In fact, since there will be no industry oversight left, the nascent American electronics cartel will be free to fix prices just below that.
There is no way in hell we are going to be able to make and find all the components needed to make a tv completely in America. Parts will still come from other places…which will all have tariffs. Then if it’s actually made here, American labor is still more expensive. No business will invest in this
Any manufacturing built in the US is almost assuredly going to be as automated as possible specifically because of labor costs unless this admin manages to drive that down (not looking great)
But even still, that'll be a few highly technical jobs, not the blue collar revolution some are hoping for.
Yeah, not only would we first need to build the factories, raise a generation of professionals ready to work on electronics manufacturing, develop the supply lines, likely, but with the price of labor here there's no way it's even gonna be the same price unless heavily automated, thus few new jobs
yeah, it’s a big assumption that they could even produce units cheaper than 154% of import pricing. as you say, it’s probably extremely unlikely in the long term, to say nothing of the next couple of years. And that’s not accounting for the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants.
Easy answer: get rid of minimum wage, all worker protections and workplace safety, bring back child labor, get rid of public education, and conquer a few countries that produce the raw materials. Then TVs from Alabama will be cheaper than imported.
Oh, I think we know EXACTLY how they can make labor low enough: children and convict slave labor. That's why all these states are repealing child-labor laws. We already have the for-profit prisons.
And just thinking about it a little more without consumer protections and regulations American made TVs might be so shitty that we’re still willing to pay for Chinese TVs even with 200% tariffs. Then what? Outlaw foreign TVs to protect their racket?
When 'Made in Japan' became a mark of quality hard-won after years of occupation, RCA couldn't compete with Japanese products or pricing. There's a reason almost all electronics are made in Asia, which is also a reason why so many USians have a TV in multiple rooms. Unthinkable luxury in 1980.
To be fair, they have been cheap-ish commodities (not so much vanilla recently - nothing to do with trade wars - if you do any sweets baking, but otherwise, . . .), not luxuries. They will be again, however.
Got tulip bulbs?
Thanks, donnie, you mad asshole.
True. But I believe Most of those are already using artificial flavoring... to be consistent with cheap sweeteners. You know, the kind RFK claims are Bad for you.
Behold a tale of economic brilliance: tariffs on allies, chaos at home, and Russia exempt—clearly the work of a 3D chess grandmaster! Or perhaps a stable genius flipping the board, eating the pieces, and declaring checkmate while penguins prepare sanctions and the country quietly bursts into flames.
This is when people realize what “global commodities” are & how important they are to the prices of EV. ER. RY. THING. we eat & use. The FO part of FA has engaged.
When I've asked what I should get from the farmer's market, I have had multiple people suggest bananas, a fruit that is absolutely not grown in the U.S. outside limited Hawaiian and Floridian production (much less the Bay Area in December). People DO NOT KNOW the scope of international trade.
I’ve had someone ask me “why can’t we grow bananas/coffee/mangoes/avocados?” When I reply that the US doesn’t have the proper climate to grow these items it’s suggested we grow them inside. I mean, I suppose we COULD, but *why*?
I'm no expert in anything even close to adjacent to this, but certainly SOMEONE has done the environmental and financial calculus on, say, building and heating thousands of greenhouses of mature coffee trees versus sending a container ship down to Nicaragua
Vanilla is a flavoring agent used in a variety of foods, especially sweet foods like ice cream, chocolate, custard, caramel, coffee, and baked goods. It's also used in the fragrance industry, in perfumes, and to mask unpleasant odors or tastes in medicines, livestock fodder, and cleaning products.
Trade imbalances come from buying stuff we don’t grow or mine here. 46% of imports are up-converted, like buying nickel from Madagascar so Pratt & Whitney can build jet engines, or vanilla for Coca-Cola. So - we're adding a 47% tax on these inputs, while Madagascar's per-capita income is $510/yr.
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Glad to hear they are putting much thought and research on their economic policies. Omfg we are so screwed. Definitely leaning towards the USA being a kakistocracy today.
True story.. I got my first programming job because I knew the right way to send a file to the printer in MS-DOS. My interviewer was amazed by my l33+ skillz and hired me.
Back in January I ordered a bottle of the Mexican vanilla I use to keep in reserve because I saw this coming. I also have been stocking up on any spices and herbs I use regularly because most of that comes from overseas as well.
My wife's spice cupboard looks like a mini-Penzey's shop.
As soon as the election was called for Trump, we started stocking up on coffee. We have about a metric fuquetonne of vacuum-sealed coffee now; probably enough to last until we die.
This entire experience post Nov 5th has been discovering not only how many people have no idea of what makes up the undergird of their daily lives but have all the hubris to think they do or it doesn't matter so they can easily cheer on the ripping apart of the supports they don't know they need.
It really has been terrifyingly revealing about how little most people know about how anything works, but also it makes a lot of our current predicament make sense
US already puts cheaper ingredients into processed foods to increase profit margins (part of why EU doesn't like our "food"). Guess we're getting diluted vanilla extract or synthetic vanilla flavor chemicals now. L for health and taste.
Bubbles bursting for the first, but not last, time ALMOST makes this idiocy worth it. Welcome to the party. No ice cream at this one. Maybe try Mar-a-Lago.
You could write gripping tom clancy style novels about vanilla supply.
Madagascan vanilla is kinda messed up that way - farmers are at the behest of curing houses that are kinda mafia-esque. Quality tanked a few years ago because they demanded by a certain date but climate change made it 1mo later.
Yeah, vanilla is in the top five sources of bandit violence. A few years ago, farmers asked the government for permission to form armed militias to patrol their plantations.
French Polynesia grows vanilla too, but it's cultivated and hand pollinated. Just a 10% tarriff on French Polynesia but their vanilla beans are already super expensive.
I mean nothing is official, but once I start seeing the new prices of product, I'm probably going to need to make some tough decisions. I can't justify raising prices as much as it might take to keep me where I am.
Love when right wingers inadvertently out themselves as know-nothings - this guy probably never cooked a thing in his life and left that all to the womenfolk
they can be good, if used strategically as part of an industrial policy, that is not what Trump is doing. Lets not become libertarians because Trump is an idiot.
Every trumpy white lady who’s going to pay $7 extra per Venti Double Whip Vanilla Bean frappe:
“We can just make that beaver taint vanilla flavor. That’s real American vanilla!
All the blueberry, strawberry, cherry, raspberry and other products that say "natural flavors" are sure to include beaver butt! (or as someone else said much to my amusement, beaver taint!)
I mean, does even vanilla ice cream actually contain vanilla? It's mostly using artificial vanillin because it's approximately a quintillion times cheaper.
Our kid works for the US division of an international food company. They source stuff from everywhere, including a lot only available abroad. The squishy tariffs are driving them nuts. They have no idea of their manufacturing costs from day to day.
You can’t run a business that way.
this is how America ended up with "vanilla flavored".
won't be any different than the sugar syrup substitute you get instead of maple syrup on them diner pancakes.
then we wonder why Americans are obese, sick and all around messed up.
hey @rfk-junior.bsky.social got any healthy food suggestions?
🤦♀️ Sometimes I really cannot believe how intellectually and experientially limited some Americans are. But I am rushing out to get vanilla right now!
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And then the inevitable Marco Rubio double down on it and fox news week long triple down
$17/16 oz. last May,
$14/16 oz. today ($0.88/oz.)
at Costco in AZ
Compare at grocery stores to blow your mind. Lowest was $2.40/oz locally.
Use the liquid as you would vanilla extract from the store.
The more beans the stronger the vanilla flavor.
To test it tastes vanilla mix teaspoon of ready liquid into table spoon sugar. Taste it. You will know if it is ready.
Keep it in a cool dark place till ready for use at least.
I keep 2 jars going. Go through them one at a time so I always have a lot and so I always have some that is usable.
You haven't given up on slave plantations.
#DefundThePolice
#TaxHollywood
#WhoOwnsTheMedia
Not cookies… 😭
(JK - in case anyone wants to come and vanilla-splain to me)
dumb people everywhere
Steel, is actually one of the things you have to be most willing to tariff, because it's so easy to find yourself on the battlefield against an army from the country who used to be your (foreign) steel suppliers. That isn't going to end well.
I don’t know where these people live because it’s not earth.
That said, we have our fair share of dimwits over here too.
You all are in for a very long decade
You guys are f.u.k.t.
Or much else, really.
{{The UN estimates it takes 140 litres of water to grow, process, and transport enough coffee beans per average cup.}}
https://kitchensurfers.com/how-long-does-coffee-plant-take-to-mature/
For 5 ounces.
We get 10 US Oz for about NZ$7, (US$12.50 or so), but I look for that price to plunge as growers stop shipping to the US
*laughs in gardener*
These people are uneducated and completely ignorant of facts beyond their isolated existence, and do not possess the imagination necessary to project possibilities beyond their personal experience.
That's got vanilla too.
Tweet from a journalist who notes 70% of vanilla supply comes from Madagascar with a 47% tariff on it now.
Angry Trumper reply under says that only affects ice cream.
So glad I bought a big thing of vanilla too
https://bsky.app/profile/japoniano.bsky.social/post/3llvztvmpvk2o
Trader Joe's is owned by Aldi Nord (who also owns Aldi in countries such as Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Poland, & Spain).
They started as the same company but split in 1946.
We don't even live in the US.
American cars are too big and too dangerous.
If they want to sell more cars abroad they should build them to foreign standards instead of boorishly insisting on their own.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna30327904
Providing a better product, that is desired more around the world… sells more. That is literally how capitalism is supposed to work. Tariffs are corporate socialism. Instead of letting these industries fight it out, we are providing them cover at our own cost.
BTW, Trump just laid off 900 Detroit auto workers. Steve Miller is a real dickhead.
I dunno Steve, what do you reckon?🤦♂️
No, not like that!
'A tough blast of reality...' creo que se dice en el idioma de los infieles.
The opposite of pepper is an antihistamine.
When I was a child.
Most of those people would be some flavor of piss.
Some with serious v bean action is delicious.
But I’ll take chocky
Every day they sold out of it by noon even with a limit of two gallons per person.
I bake a lot but can't afford v. (I'm med.-debt-twice broke)--I miss it.
Their Vanilla is pricey.
Costco has perfectly-okay Kirkland Vanilla for sale on website: two bottles for $13.99, with free shipping (for members).
(I just need some Fox Point Seasoning and Chili 3000, okay?)
Gee, I wonder if that entered into consideration?
8D chess folks!!
Who would know?
Chocolate, coffee, black pepper, vanilla, cinnamon. All little luxuries that we treat as cheap commodities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MSYFTPz3Q
When or even if it becomes available wait in line for two hours hoping they don't run out before you get to the counter, pay 5x what it's worth, get home and discover it's 10% sawdust.
USA! USA!
So I’d ask every one of those people how they feel about child labor because we can’t even get enough people in the trades or construction right now.
It includes child labor, none of the key products they want without high costs since the raw materials are not actually in the US, and pissing off every ally until we are alone and walled off
So…Gilead
This isn't the main problem, of course. I just wanted to introduce Bluesky to a lovely additional problem they probably haven't heard of.
But even still, that'll be a few highly technical jobs, not the blue collar revolution some are hoping for.
They can't even reconfigure existing facilities bc there's tariffs on steel & aluminum.
This whole scheme just gets stupider
Got tulip bulbs?
Thanks, donnie, you mad asshole.
https://youtu.be/ygnzhWrML_4
hope this helps
Such hypocrites
You put import tariffs on manufacture goods used in production, you basically ... nevermind.
Heeheehee ho ho ho hAhAHaHa heh heh heh
J/k that is an old myth, lol
I would be interested in American perspective critique.
https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/USA/year/2023/tradeflow/Imports/partner/ALL/product/090500
Rice pudding for lazy people (read stoners) it’s awesome, no I don’t have measurements, defeats the purpose.
(What an adorable baby!)
Really don’t see the big deal here
As soon as the election was called for Trump, we started stocking up on coffee. We have about a metric fuquetonne of vacuum-sealed coffee now; probably enough to last until we die.
One country can't produce everything
All of your Hostess Ding Dongs, dumbshit.
But oops, tariffs on them too.
Is Russia or Belarus in the vanilla business?
It will grow so well here
“That oughta keep the little buggers happy.”
I just can’t with these people.
Fairs fair!
(This has nothing to do with economics, just a nice fact)
Madagascan vanilla is kinda messed up that way - farmers are at the behest of curing houses that are kinda mafia-esque. Quality tanked a few years ago because they demanded by a certain date but climate change made it 1mo later.
Here's a start though:
https://www.fairplanet.org/story/the-vanilla-thieves-of-madagascar/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26899693/
Major difference. You don't make a profit harvesting wild apples.
Anyhow, there's one community co-op that does harvest and cure the wild vanilla in oaxaca.
It's expensive but not stupidly, & absolutely crazy good. Harvest is very limited, like 40kg/yr
IIRC most vanilla comes from Indonesia these days but that might only be from my perspective in Australia with Indonesia much closer
Jesus can we stop letting the dumbest men do the dumbest shit
Fascinating word, dontcha think?????
Although vanilla can also be used in savory dishes as well.
Which is exciting or something.
I’m sorry 😞
Sorry sir.
2. EVERYONE should learn how to bake something. FROM SCRATCH.
“We can just make that beaver taint vanilla flavor. That’s real American vanilla!
…
Wait the beavers is Canadian!?”
Buying the right vanilla is a whole thing for a certain type of home baker
This actually will irritate a lot of people that their [treat] costs more to make
Sorry, hold on, I'm being handed something *checks paper*
Oh.
You can’t run a business that way.
won't be any different than the sugar syrup substitute you get instead of maple syrup on them diner pancakes.
then we wonder why Americans are obese, sick and all around messed up.
hey @rfk-junior.bsky.social got any healthy food suggestions?