Breaking character: I saw someone say you have to spend more time explaining to people IRL why doge sucks. So what would be your 480 character elevator pitch about why it sucks?
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Is it worth it? I mean if someone needs me to explain why an unsanctioned agency run by an unelected foreign national whose biggest claims to fame are firing nuclear weapon safety officials before hurriedly hiring them back then they're probably just trolling me and wasting my time.
Wants all of the money that citizens will pay in taxes on items that will now be tariff to be put into a sovereign wealth fund that will become his piggy bank.
So not only will you not have Social Security, but you will now be funding his.
Just looking on from outside, it has looked for years that when Dems got in, they dithered around.
One thing Republicans/Cdn Conservatives knew - once you walk thru the door of ldrship, don't waste a second. Start the moment you're sworn in to effect yr policies.
Dems/Libs wait too long.
JMO
Elon Musk’s first month of destroying America will cost us decades.
The degree to which we have failed not merely ourselves but also our children and grandchildren is breathtaking. https://www.theverge.com/elon-musk/61...
Elon made his money with government subsidies and market manipulation on twitter. He bought both twitter and the government so he could just keep funneling money to himself and building a narrative reality where he deserves it.
The world’s richest man bought the presidency so he can sell off the country for parts and sell your personal info to Chinese hackers while getting more tax cuts paid for by stealing health care from kids and disabled people.
That's what I would say. No one elected Elon Musk.
And *we've* been paying the govt for Soc Sec, Medi, SNAP, the VA with our own money since we 1st started working, every paycheck, and he's stealing it from us. That's OUR money. His Co's have taken BILLIONS of our $$$, and he pays next to $0.
I started working at 12 (off the books). Got my first legal paycheck at 15. That money belongs to me - and everyone who's been paying into the system. NOT him!
Also the billionaire is an idiot who thinks he's a genius, thinks randomly unplugging shit and firing ppl with no idea what will happen is "cost cutting," and is constantly finding stuff he thinks is "waste, fraud, and abuse" because he doesn't have a clue how anything works and is too lazy to ask.
Some might resort to Marxist rhetoric about “lining his own pockets” but many beneficiaries of those policies cite the Science of Reaganomics as shifting wealth upwards “trickling down” to the 90%. Who’s to say what reality is?
Not you for sure. One of those options you gave does not comport with the reality we live in. Musk is already self dealing, getting more fat contracts from the US -- he's always sucked at the government teat. Now he's just butchering the government for himself.
Got to add in a 'randomly firing people and rehiring them' and 'giving himself hundreds of millions of dollars'. Maybe something about veteran funding or the like being cut.
Unfortunately, I don’t think so. This promotes the anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right. And everything he’s doing would be just as bad if he were US-born.
How about ‘a group of Russia-colluding, racist, nazi-sympathizing, teenaged hackers have breached several gov’t computer systems, taking control of Social Security payments, tax refunds and the Treasury Dept. Trump is granting them access to our military secrets and airline security’
The richest man in the world (who is an unelected, racist, sexist, drug addict is adding to his wealth by using his US goverment access to cancel his competitors contracts and direct more business to himself all the while saying that any government benefits to average citizens is "a ponzi scheme."
an unelected drug addict, billionaire, globalist from Africa is creating a death panel that will decide which veteran is worthy of medical care and which senior is worthy of social security payments
“Republicans are letting unelected billionaires fire the federal workforce that lands our planes, fights forest fires & gives healthcare to our veterans and seniors. They’re also stealing your healthcare and social security $ to fund tax cuts for billionaires.”
Elon Musk, the wealthiest man on the planet, is gutting federal agencies that regulate his businesses, and is using his unelected powers to further enrich himself at the expense of your social security, healthcare, and safety.
I think the implication that Musk is benefitting personally by redirecting YET MORE contracts to himself is key to the villain framing - more powerful than all the points you summarized here.
He can go on defense and say "of course not, blah blah", but the followup question is "how much total were you already getting from FedGov before, and how much are you getting now?" That's the conversation we want to use up the whole 5 minute TV segment. Prove to us you're NOT CORRUPT, Elon!
Ordering abrupt allocation of FAA funds towards paying Musk's Starlink to displace Verizon contract is corruption greatly exceeding that of Bob "gold bars" Menendez and Rod "valuable thing" Blagojevich, 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒃𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒅
I feel like most US voters wouldn't respond to this because a) who isn't on drugs? b) who cares about my "private" information, everyone has that already c) Social Security won't be solvent when *I'm* ready and d) *my* healthcare is fine, he's taking healthcare from poor people.
In fact any short pitch I can come up with fails to get across how bad DOGE is because most US people have ZERO IDEA how much the federal government does for them.
This ☝️ I don’t think these people care and/or are as motivated by sophisticated conversations about data privacy or drug taking. What motivates aging Boomers will never be the same as Millennials or Alphas unless it’s something about having to pay for Boomers health care or Mom/Dad moving in.
How bout "they have your full name, social security number, your mother"s maiden name, and ALL your tax returns, and with the push of a button some Axe-smelling twerp can wipe your entire existence off the planet and have fun trying to get out of the gulag when you can't prove who you are"
I would use a more neutral word for the data theft, like siphoning off. The actions/harms have been awful enough that you can afford to couch them in neutral terms b/c 💩 is still going to stink.
They don't seem to have any problems with him making money off of us. They already ignored his lack of express gratitude to the tax payer for the 38 billion so far.
"Stealing our data" is a deeply out of touch thing to worry about. If you're under age 50 you know that all your shit has been stolen a dozen times already. Oh no Musk stole our data again? So what.
It's a really bad argument, makes people look dated and foolish.
They’re in a cult. Literally. Nothing is going to persuade 85% of them. At this point the campaign needs to focus on peeling off the 10-20% who might be reachable. There is no message that pulls all the Branch Davidians out of the Waco complex that’s burning down around them.
That's because they don't consider what it actually entails, because they're being willfully dishonest. We don't generally give out our Social Security numbers when we order on Temu.
They--and much of their constituency--are far more concerned about proper messaging while MAGA just continues to spew misinfo. This isn't an issue of "messaging" or "branding" anymore, we passed that years ago. The Dems had an election lost to a guy who claimed immigrants were eating pets.
“Selling your private information” is not too enraging, as it’s known to constantly happen, and a common political tendency is to casually accept bad things that seem hard to change (response on the right: “it’s in God’s hands”), especially if you don’t feel direct negative effects in your own life.
I think “Taking away your medical benefits” and “Causing food and construction costs to skyrocket” are much more persuasive, since they speak to concrete kitchen table issues tied to policies that can directly affect life and death.
Billionaires don’t use VA benefits, attend national parks, get communicable diseases, wait on hold trying to speak to a person or have any negative experiences from the weather.
F*** You peasants.
Around 1938 two of the most famous Americans in history, Ford and Lindbergh, were full on supporters of Hitler and Nazism.
The popularity of Nazism and adjacent fascism in American was and is obvious. For 80 some years Democrats politely ignored it, for fear of losing the Nazi vote.
"...stealing all the private information of military members, elected officials, CIA and FBI, and of their all their family members -- and he chats with Putin regularly"
Donald Trump let Elon musk pick a bunch of 20 year old misfits look at your grandmas social security and tax files and they think your grandma is an undeserving freeloader freeloaders
I think it’s worth pointing out that Trump’s administration says Musk isn’t affiliated with DOGE, that he’s just an advisor to the president, and that they announced that Amy Gleason is in charge of DOGE while she was out of the country in Mexico.
Congress makes the laws (expressing the will of the people), and the Executive faithfully executes the laws in accordance with the Courts' interpretations (in case of confusion). DOGE violates the law (the people's will). Instead the administration should ask Congress to change the laws.
Think how easily ordinary people believed that Barack Obama’s preacher influenced him or the whole “pallin’ around with Alesky” thing. There is a horrifying thing called “Yarvinism” that Musk seems to be aligned with and I think it can be repeated with the same effectiveness as “migrant caravans.”
I agree but so many of things we were previously told we were being alarmist for suggesting might/would happen are happening, and things that even seemed alarmist by my standards are happening, and now I'm not sure anything is impossible.
Agree. It’s going to take more than 480 characters to explain, and you might need a different explanation for different people. You have to make them understand that this will impact THEM.
It’s a genuine problem in messaging to people who don’t pay attention. You can show them a direct quote from a Republican saying what they want to do and they straight up don’t believe it because it’s so cartoonishly evil.
thats why things getting extremely bad is the only remedy- we can't message our way through this. We're like 0 for our last 156 trying to craft messaging, the only option left is the hot stove
Maybe add something like, "Look it up if you don't believe me."? Then they're on the hook and you can point them to each component of the claim, forcing them to look it up right in front of you.
I had to spend a whole day arguing with my parents about whether or not Medicare was going to cover something important after my mom got confused by United Healthcare's online support chat, so I really feel this one.
The government we don’t trust is sharing personal information with people we know little about and telling us to trust them that it is all for the best while the results we see are the complete opposite
as the words waste fraud and abuse are chanted where the words woke were once used.
I this is one of the better examples so far. Too many other examples are using words that either insult the recipient or provoke them to ignore the message
Telling people Doge cut the funding for the homeless teen program in my area has been far more effective than complaining about Doge at large. Especially with 411 on how that program saved lives and saved the city money long term.
2010 was biggest swing in the House since 1948 - they flipped 63 seats. And perhaps more importantly they won almost 700 more state legislative seats, flipping 20 state legislatures. that has had long lasting effects.
and how much of that is directly attributable to primary insurgents calling the republican party bad, because they left at least two senate seats on the table by having tea party people win primaries
They are beholden to the donors as well, we should be realistic about what’s happening. Your ally is usually not a friend, just someone you can work with.
Barely outta high school pricks given the keys to everybody’s personal info including the meds you take to stiffen your dick & examine your monthly porn bills.
DOGE is using 19 year olds to distract Americans while trump robs the Treasury for Putin. He has given them permission to say and act out the racism and hate of anyone who is not "one of them." 76 million of us are fighting back.
1. Because in today's world, the biggest threats to your financial security and privacy are digital safeguards and we have no idea what DOGE is doing with our data, where it is being stored and how it is being safeguarded. 2. They are cutting indiscriminately. 3. Massive conflicts of interest.
It's wild to me people here have repeatedly said he's going to make, like NOAA for example, a private company. But outsourcing gov has been a GOP goal forever, there's been 0 mention of that. Privatizing gov is an understandable goal. No mention of that. This is destruction for destruction's sake.
evergreen = always relevant
skeet = what you just did, posting something on Bluesky. on Twitter it was called a tweet, on Bsky its a skeet.
🤷🏼♀️ I didn't make the rules
IMO a "good" reply would only work on people who ultimately don't want the dismantling of our republic's fundamental institutions and want competent government.
The wider problem is that a critical mass of citizens seems to actually want to just blow it all up. No talking point will deal with that.
Tempting, but unlike his/trump's loud public propaganda, he is trying to do the current sabotage more fast and quiet. The failure of the news to headline the detailed extent of this horror is blameworthy for people who can't follow it as closely as we do all day.
An unelected billionaire, with no accountability to anyone, is maliciously and incompetantly destroying programs that help people, but get in the way of him getting even richer.
DNC fought for years to convince voters that their plans were better; that even if they weren't perfect, a felon, rapist, conman, insurrectionist... was unacceptable. 77M said no. 89M said meh.
This has to be mostly grass roots. People need the pain.
Then everyone best enjoy speaking Russian or German while they fondly remember political campaign ads and voting.
History shows there’s no other successful Democratic playbook. The US has so many ‘poorly educated’ - 54% read below the sixth grade. They are easily swayed and willfully so.
Every dollar they cut is one less dollar paid to middle class and working class families, and one more dollar available to fund tax cuts for billionaires.
DOGE was formed under the auspices of saving American people money. Instead, it has primarily cut oversight of Musk's companies, and has lined his pockets at our expense. Hardworking federal civil servants are being scapegoated so the richest man on earth can get richer, while making us less safe.
Here's mine: Musk cheers the AfD/Nazi party, unconstitutionally dismantles our democracy from within, and enriches his own government contracts while firing tens of thousands of vital workers, including thousands of veterans and those working to cure cancer!
Remember when your computer was infected with malware? Well, these are the guys that write that shit and now they control all the federal computers and whether you're gonna keep getting your Social Security check.
It's really easy: an evil man, insecure about his height, ordered his orange low IQ thug to find a way to make a new country called Upside Down. He could keep his commission from the looting, as well. So, with the help of corrupt Republicans, Mr Thug took $ from a South African villain...
Not a congress-approved department or branch of gov’t.
Elon is not an elected official.
Absolutely no reason his highly problematic, teenage Discord sycophants need access to classified material and the financial information of millions of Americans and businesses.
Will the next Dem administration be locked out of the government computer systems? Who else has the knowledge, on a bipartisan basis, of the system changes? What about Starlink being used in the FAA? What protections are in place to prevent Musk from remotely controlling Starlink once he’s booted?
Lawless. Chaotic. Corrupt. Conflicts of interest monetized. Gutting govt without proper authority, security clearances, or regard for very real consequences. Will cost countless # of lives. Cost of damage will exceed any so called “savings” they are claiming to find. Disgraceful. Un-American.
Stopping government inefficiency is cover for two things:
1- so they can fire essential employees and render departments useless. Then claim the solution to uselessness is privatization.
2- to eliminate or render ineffective any department that has oversight over any of Elon's businesses
The old crook from New York is using the younger crook from South Africa to throw Americans out of work and steal their hard earned benefits. They’re doing it because they’re part of a club of rich people who only use regular people as hamsters running on a money wheel. They will take everything.
Because DOGE doesn't know what they don't know and aren't willing to admit or grow from it. By virtue of intellect they believe they are correct and are unwilling to accept they are not.
Even if you agree that all government programs should be reviewed and assessed to see if they are needed, it should be done with a process and the decision should not be down to one person on what to cut.
Its a redundant waste of money and a means for the worlds richest man, with billions in government contracts, to eliminate your benefits to pad his bank account further.
They have that net worth because pensions were cut in the 1980’s by Reagan and they then have saved & invested part of their pay every two weeks over a 30 year career and the stock market worked.
Some government employees do have over a million dollars in their 401k Thrift Savings Program accounts.
I would just amplify the stories of dedicated public servants who got DOGE'd. Especially ones that would be sympathetic to the person I'm trying to persuade (maybe veteran, maybe older person just about to retire, park rangers for outdoorsy people)
These guys, who include some of the most spoiled child brats AND the richest man on earth, are personally trying to decide whether YOU ever get to do that, and if you do if you ever get to go to the dr
Dumb young turds are rooting through your social security and tax data, feeding it into Elon's little AI project and letting a computer decide what to take from you after paying your whole life in. Kids that you wouldn't even let dogsit.
Oh and also - do you see your parents retiring? These guys, who include some of the most spoiled child brats AND the richest man on earth, are personally trying to decide whether YOU ever get to do that, and if you do if you ever get to go to the dr.
Doge is the Department of Gutting Everything - basement-dwelling dweebs running with scissors so that nothing works. Why? Elon wants to privatize these things so that we have to pay him and his companies to do them. Air traffic control? Elon. Tax collection? Elon. Healthcare? Elon. Get it? You will.
DOGE duplicates a system already in place: it's mere existence is inefficient. 1st act was to cut agencies whose role is to detect fraud, waste, & abuse. Next, w/out foresight, massive cuts (aligned w/Elon's interest). Results: less efficency, more fraud & waste, less services. Cost:Benefit :abysmal
A person who got into our country via fraud, who is not an elected politician, nor a career civil servant, who also has not been given a background check, and whom has business with our adversaries now has unfettered access to all of your personal information and social security money
An unelected ketamine addled billionaire from South Africa is heading up a department of twenty year old tech bros. They're firing EVERYONE. It's so new and moving so fast that it's unclear who they are or who they report to and there's zero congressional oversight so far. It's very bad.
Nobody voted for this ketamine addict idiot to destroy our government, getting access to our countries secrets, firing people illegally and taking away my social security, Medicaid, etc...And putting children in charge. Eff him so much.
Self-admited illegal immigrant Elon is gutting services to line his own pockets. He is cutting any office that has threatened action against him, alongside popular targets like the Dept of Education. He is an unelected official with no regulatory oversight, exactly what Reps say they're against.
well first of all, I have it on good authority that it’s pronounced “doo shh”, lots of people don’t know that. Also, please reference the great Katie Porter’s recent give and take in the congress on this topic.
And then says it's all that same because either way the surgery is completed, even tho in the low bid instance the child is dead and in the surgeon case it takes longer and is more expensive but the child is alive and cured of cancer.
Yes, this. Relate it to their personal jobs too. Almost everyone has experienced a moment where a bad manager either hires someone or gets hired with no experience and they start stomping around like they can fix everything and everyone ends up miserable. That's what doge is doing.
Is it possible that there are even more nefarious motivations behind DOGE? Could they be taking control of vital infrastructure in an attempt to shut down power and telecommunications in order to cause havoc and build a case for Marshall law?
Shamelessly diverting all the taxpayer money from serving the public in any way shape or form to exclusively filling Elon's pockets just about sums it up.
They are taking the money you have paid in taxes and into Social Security for themselves. That's it. That's the goal.
Elon Musk is taking our money, so he can be the first trillionaire and the world will call him the first trillionaire for the rest of our time on this planet. That's his goal.
Elon is taking your money, money he didn't earn, for himself.
He isn't looking out for you. He thinks everyone who isn't a member of Mar-a-Lago is a "parasite." He called you the "parasite class." He doesn't think you are entitled to your own money.
Democrats need to seize upon people's prejudice against people who receive money who haven't warned it and turn it back on the billionaires. Keep hammering it home in language a seven year old can understand...
and not be lured off into debating points of etiquette and language about who is who.
Who the hell is privileged to have 480 characters? I only get 300. What, we've got 2-tier character-wealth classes on Bsky? Don't tell me, I've got enough problems with people who only allow comments for 'paid subscribers'.
The kind of people who would take a gifted Rolex, strip out the springs and gears, then throw it back at the giver, loudly blaming them for the watch not working.
Billionaire welfare queens who fraudulently cancel contracts for their competition to turn around and enrich their own enterprises. Buoyed by our tax dollars, they galavant as righteous self-made men.
They socialize their failures and privatize their success.
Imagine a roommate who has eaten all your food for the past week claiming “look how much money I’ve earned, I sold the couch, TV, and refrigerator! I’m going to buy meth! At this rate of income I can afford meth every day!”
The average salary for a National Park Ranger in the United States is $42,977 per year.
The amount of federal tax dollars sent to Elon Musk's companies in 2024 is $6,500,000,000
WTF is DOGE doing?
Taking health care, jobs, and dignity from working families to give billionaires 4.5 trillion dollars. The teenage girls that are being forced to give birth , don't have a way to pay hospital bills . These girls can't go into debt for life to have these kids or ruin their credit .this is BullShit.
1) your personal data is being taken with no transparency or justification 2) The services your town and state depend on to keep hospitals and schools running are being indiscriminately slashed leaving everyone more vulnerable
3) None of what doge is doing is legal and in fact it is a direct affront to our constitution 4) they are wasting far more money than they are saving by carelessly throwing away decades and decades our our tax dollars' investment 5) they only care about themselves
trump convinces so many people that the US is comparable to a developing country and many believe him because they've never actually been to a place that lacks things like basic sanitation and air quality that chokes you. They don't even realize the basic comforts they take for granted.
Imagine how your life could be affected if your government turned against you. If you work for the govt, you could lose your job. If your company does business with the govt, they could lose it. Funding could be cut to your town, schools, or even your family.
Now imagine this power is in the hands of a vindictive billionaire who has only two goals: become a trillionaire and crush anyone who stands in his way.
It's not partisan or exaggeration to say DOGE's sole purpose is to remove the regulators investigating Trump/Musk (so they can get richer at all our expense) and the institutions which serve as the guardrails of democracy that prevent a dictatorship (plus pay for 10% of the billionaires' tax cuts).
It's illegal and it's primary functions are to protect Elon from oversight and destroy what has made America the leader of the free world. Blindly chainsaws government functions and then scrambling to hire people back is the opposite of efficiency. Musk is at least 3rd generation nazi.
Smash and Grab
Grand Theft Data
Lil feral hogs rooting around the fertile ground of our life info, truffle hunting our health history, financial transactions, and family treasure to package up and sell to the highest bidders worldwide.
The entire premise of the fake agency is a farce. The purpose isn’t to increase efficiency and streamline government, its purpose is to destroy the administrative State from within, as described in Project 2025. An efficiency audit would require accountants, not a ketamine fueled Nazi billionaire.
The goal of it is government efficiency yet they have cut most programs related to gov efficiencies and let go of plenty of employees who were critical for an efficient government. How many ‘we made a boo boo’ do we give before you realize it’s about self-enrichment. You dying makes them richer.
Letting impotent nerds gut the government, which should exist to prove services to its citizens, solidifies how far we have fallen as a nation. We should have jammed these pencil necked idiots further and deeper into lockers.
In the best case, they do what they want and remove hundreds of billions of dollars from the US economy in one year. No economy can sustain that without a major recession.
In the worst case, they just destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and don't even save anything.
Imagine how much money a business “saves” if fire your whole sales staff. Probably a lot since you don’t pay them anything now. But if that saves $10k and they were bringing in $500k a year in revenue, how much did you “save”. Elon would say “$10k” and it’s why he is dumb
“Some 20-year-old idiot is deciding whether your [mom’s/grandma’s] Social Security check goes out next month. Remember how stupid *you* were when you were 20? Do you think *you* would have been able to even own a Jamba Juice unsupervised? Well, you better hope that idiot cares about your Medicare.”
The richest man in the world is literally taking food and medicine from the poorest people in the world and is working with his co-conspirators in the House to take food and medical care from the poorest people in the US. No one elected him or his tech army. What kind of people do this?
"Move fast and break things" can be an effective approach in new product development. It is NOT how you change a critical working system. Imagine if Amazon rolled out a change that broke the shopping cart. For months. And nobody could buy anything. That is what Musk is doing to Govt. He's a moron.
One thing a lot of these are missing: a lot of the farm programs are gonna be cut. The big international players will survive, mom and pop farms won't. Foreign owned companies already own most of the food produced here... this will be the death knell of traditional American farming.
If you do the terrible thing and dig into the accelerationist BS, you'll find that this has been in the tech bro/ venture capital crosshairs for at least a decade, probably closer to two.
Dead children. Insecure internet and personal privacy. Loss of veteran services. Loss of safety net for disabled, unemployed, and seniors. Crashed economy.
A secret gang of unelected saboteurs has taken over the President's and Congress's powers and are using them to funnel your taxes to Elon Musk's pockets. Instead of fighting bird flu or ebola, paying air traffic controllers, or paying Social Security, Musk is paying himself all your tax dollars.
1) It’s a massive conflict of interest at Musk’s profit
2) Their lack of skill puts everyone at risk (data leaks, bad decisions based on faulty understanding)
3) So-called “savings” are actually net negative : a destructive fire costs more than firemen do, plane crashes cost more than FAA agents…
Imagine if someone came into your house while you were bathing your kid, threw out the baby with the bath water, stole your social security card, and then told you that you voted for this.
Illegally formed "department" breaking into federal computers, stealing your private data, and firing the people whose job it is to protect it. And claiming they're saving you money.
We live a military area. I like to ask why you think a 19 year old should be in charge of staffing at the naval hospital. Ask what their plan b is when they arrive and there aren’t any heart surgeons anymore.
When I was in the military it took 6 months of investigation 2 ensure I was qualified 4 a clearance. It took 0 days for DOGE members 2 gain the same level of access that cleared military personnel have. Our security has been breached 10x over.
The richest man in the world is taking our tax money and redistributing it however he wants. It goes against our constitution and eliminates any checks and balances. Tech billionaires are not on our side!
Doge was not created by congress and has no legal authority. read your constitution about separation of power. congress allocates funding for the government, the president does not
The unelected leader of what should be a cabinet position is making the government “efficient” by creating conflicts of interest. I think the FAA being pressured to use Starlink and gutting the CFPB are the most egregious examples. Most people believe in efficiency, but not at the cost of Con of Int
A reckless slash and burn approach to managing our country by unqualified tech bros and suits who profit by siphoning money they “save” into their pockets is not a real effort at implementing efficiency.
We need open and transparent governance, and a billionaire doing whatever he wants is not that.
Under the guise of efficiency and without explicit legal approval, the world's richest man is working tirelessly to acquire direct access to all government systems. Access to the computers means direct control. His cuts to foreign aid have already killed. He's cutting US aid to its own citizens next
Because it is illegal. There already is a government agency for this. Fund it better and make sure it’s doing its job. Letting people into systems that they are clueless about is to break things, not fix them.
Weird billionaire sending little boys into federal agencies, forcing civil servants and military veterans to justify their careers, firing them anyway and awarding contracts to himself.
Doge sucks because of their methods. No one would have a problem with finding fraud, waste & abuse, but slashing things because they sound woke before understanding how they work is not efficient at all. It's the opposite in fact. Use auditors & Inspectors General, not kids with keyboards
You don't use a chainsaw to cut your morning toast if you want to save any good pieces to add jam to, so you don't fire everyone to find the good people you want to work for you.
DOGE is bad because it’s like telling someone that one person in the room isn’t pulling their weight. So, DOGE comes in and fires half the room and says “we got the inefficient person” without ever looking at anyone’s actual performance.
Even more, we’ve said (via Congress) we want these people to do their job and DOGE says “we’re going to fire everyone so the job can’t be done anymore.”
It’s about as extreme of a violation of the will of the voter you can ask for.
The richest person ever in the history of the earth, while dismantling your government, is punishing poor people, veterans, children and the elderly so he can have more money.
Think of something the government does that you like: making sure food is safe; sending social security checks; predicting/announcing tornadoes; cleaning the bathrooms in national parks; keeping ebola out of US; researching disease cures. Doge is making it harder or impossible to do all of this.
1 it doesn't save any money. Probably costs orders of magnitude more than saved.
2 Sides with slimy credit card companies over everybody else.
3 on the side of more infectious disease not less.
4 on the side of Elon getting richer and against safe air planes.
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DOGE is not doing efficiency. It’s more like taking an axe to your car before you repair it. Sure, it might run better after it gets disassembled, but it’s more likely that Elon Musk will steal most of the parts.
doge is run by a man-child caught up in the moment, believes himself to be thanos, and behind a drug-fueled haze rigged himself a position and now plays unethical games with our real lives; oh, and he's running from accountability, so he's made a buddy and now they feed off each other
a vaguely defined, unknown organization having tentacles in every government office is distinctly unsafe on its own, but there are actually several doges.
"Imagine the dumbest snottiest most arrogant fuckhead kids you know, the ones who mock everyone older than them? They think that they can sight unseen tell scientists, professors, accountants, air controllers, etc how to do their jobs, using nothing but a fancy spell check."
And then imagine the bank teller says "Actually I want to use that payment from your checking account on *my* electric bill instead." And you don't find out until their building lights up and your refrigerator goes out.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT NEED TO RESIGN ARE SCUM LIKE LYNDSAY GRAHAM WHAT 2 FACED Hypocrisy Lyndsay just said opposite a year ago praising zolensky now he is 100% Russian communists the gop have totally crossed the line and are appeasing putin the most disgusting dishonest criminal on earth genocidal
IF it was about cutting waste and finding fraud, they would not have fired IG's because THEY are the ones who cut waste and find fraud. They wouldn't revoke foreign bribery laws IF they had nothing to hide.
Billionaire rich on American subsidies claiming to be impartial yet hasn't targeted any of the funding he receives. Refusal for FOIA requests and no dual point transparency just word of mouth
Youre a Marine Corps DI( or AF MTI) and yell/Tell the recruits to line up on the feet. One steps out says I'm with DOGE you cost too much go send an email to the CNO/CSAF/CSO with the 5 things you did last week. Also give me your hat...Im in charge now
A guy who gets billions of dollars from government contracts telling the government which contracts it should spend money on is like asking the fox to tell you how to build your chicken coop.
The tax cut Trump and Musk are promising you in exchange for many of the things you take for granted (National Parks, people answering your questions about services you worked hard to get) is mostly an extension of the 2017 “windfall” you have been receiving.
They lie about what they find, lie about the aftermath of what they do, and lie about what comes next. Also, they have conflicts of interest up the wah-zoo.
It's like War Games. A bunch of gamers stealing all the marketable info and slashing spending without any understanding of the consequences. Nuking our government.
Literally DOGE is a group of unaccountable government workers led by a billionaire doing a job the Constitution says belongs to Congress and not providing any evidence, explanation, or proof of effectiveness beyond vague talking points or unsubstantiated accusations. And they have our data.
"Remember how Elon fired everyone at twitter and broke everything, then had to hire people back until it got fixed? Do you want him to do that to the government? Because that's what he's trying to do to the government."
Musk and Trump are destroying the system that made us the richest country in the world and completely stopped depressions and world wars, just so billionaires can get another massive tax break. DOGE is going to do nothing for you except make life much harder for you and your chdren.
They're dismantling our government. If Captain Ketamine's lips are moving he's lying. Musk is trying to own the USA. Big Balls is a Russian asset, as well as Trump, Vance and Musk. Trump's loyalties lie with Russia's Putin.
An unelected political donor, without security clearance or Senate confirmation, is withholding congressionally appropriated funds and ignoring federal contracts to finance his own business ventures.
Bureaucracies are necessary for large societies to function. People are naturally suspicious of bureaucracies because they don't fully understand them.
Musk is not eliminating bureaucracy he's just attempting to replace human bureaucrats with AI robots he controls which people will hate even more.
DOGE is Project2025 hijacked and flown to space by a drug addicted billionaire Elon Musk that wants your social security savings in exchange for hurting black, brown, queer & disabled people. You get to keep the bigotry but now you'll work till the day you die hungry and diseased. Thoughts & Prayers
I'm a local government employee. Every line item of our budget is FOIA-able, as is my salary and job title, as is my disciplinary record. This is transparency. I had to pass a background check & swear a loyalty oath to the constitution.
DOGE isn't following the rules of government transparency.
“The dude who makes cars that crash and rockets that explode says he can identify government waste by firing all the people who look for government waste, but he’s just in it to steal your social security.”
Anyone that knows how to create a simple computer program to discover simple data that points to fraud knows that not everyone is flagged. They are stealing from you. Ai programs are written on if/then scenarios. They are lying to you. Please wake up
How about this:
DOGE is stealing from the Poor to give to the Rich:
Gutting programs for the middle class, seniors and veterans, and laying off thousands of hard working Americans to pay for $4T in tax cuts for the top 1% and nearly $3B in contracts to Tesla and Starlink.
You have to also remind them they're not rich and they never will be, no matter what racist rhetoric they've swallowed.
Billionaires are not "us".
We are not them.
They leach off us and hate us at the same time.
DOGE is a thing Elon Musk made up so that he and his 19 year old friends (weird) could do whatever they want to the government without congress. They keep implying they're going to use it to cut social security and Medicare
An unelected, unconfirmed entity illegally firing thousands of federal workers and veterans all the while accessing our information that they have no right to. Also, to go along with their corruption, they are incredibly inept.
Musk was being investigated. He has contracts with the federal government. He does not have security clearance. Their efficiency is to gain access and have full control to push their agenda; remove the tools we use to fight back against dictatorship. It has nothing to do with efficiency.
Also: this is nothing but one man enacting a massive theft from the American people through direct graft, escape from justice, and lasting damage to the economy, national security, and individual opportunity.
Bottom line, they don’t understand what they are doing. Reform is welcome. Always has been, frankly, but a thoughtful approach matters. Speed and errors are dangerous—literally killing people and harming many others. Oh, and the “deficit problem” that’s easily fixed by a rational tax policy.
They are irreparably destroying the ability for the government to do good work in violation of federal law. They have no experience with government and are just randomly hacking away at basic government function and services. The only beneficiaries thus far appear to be Musk's own companies.
DOGE is a misnomer. The only thing its efficient at is desmantling democracy and shifting funds from the people's interests to the morbidly rich. The man headng it has zero govt experience nor do his employees, and none of them were elected to do so by the people.. though that money is our taxes.
Even if you believe that the government is bloated and that spending is rife with abuse and corruption like a tumor, would you want the surgeon wielding a scalpel, making careful cuts and seeing what happens or do you want them swinging a chainsaw?
DOGE is a sloppy, lazy approach to efficiency that cuts before it measures--just look at the scramble as they frantically try to rehire USDA bird flu researchers, FFA air traffic controllers, and nuclear weapons specialists.
It is being done haphazardly and illegally. Staff reductions should be done by cabinet secretaries after they’ve been in their posts long enough to evaluate which positions are expendable. Whole government departments should be eliminated by Congress, as the law requires.
A lot of it feels like they came up with the name first (Because Elons humour🙄) without working out the fine details, and they're working it out on the fly.
And whilst they do that, innocent people will suffer for it.
And while you're at it, tell the conservative heritage foundation what you think about doje's work so far. Here is their survey. Read carefully before responding. https://secured.heritage.org/the-heritage-doge-survey/
They say it's about running government like a business, but imagine the worst boss you've ever had, and he's high on drugs, and also embezzling company money, but also the guy who put him in charge runs the police, so he's not gonna get arrested.
I mean, I couldn't agree more, but unfortunately normies got that idea crammed into their heads like 30 years ago and it's gonna take some deprogramming
i also just don't know anyone who worked for a company that got bought out, saw half their coworkers get laid off, was forced to pick up their work, and wasn't given any raise or bonus say "yeah well this is just how business goes"
This is a group of inexperienced people, led by an out-of-touch billionaire, coming into government bodies that do useful things for millions of people, and damaging them because they don't care to understand what they're looking at. And they don't even have the proper constitutional power to do it.
I also just learned a great response when being gaslighted. “I see it differently” or “I remember it differently”. I’m using it with family members who are in the cult. I share how I see it differently, or I don’t. At least it’s a disrupter and keeps me from falling for their shit!
EP:What makes it ok for Elon to get government handouts but not for everyday Americans to get subsidies when we actually pay (bigger proportion of our income)more in taxes? Can you make that make sense for me? I’d rather help a neighbor than help the world’s richest man who doesn’t need help. You?
I just sort of like flipping the scripts. Usually we are ok with gov subsidies for business but not hand outs for every day people - switching keeps everyone on their toes and maybe helps people realize they are both the gov giving money to somebody/some organization
Framing matters in people's ability to hear messages. "Subsidies" is, both businesses and people, somewhat of a negative term on hearing (less harsh than "hand out") which is why the suggestions.
'They're doing 'move fast and break things' except it's literal, and the things they're breaking are air-traffic control, protecting nuclear weapons, and your grandma's food and healthcare.'
* insert folksy americanism for grandma where culturally/geographically appropriate.
DOGE is run by a billionaire who bought the election with lies, misinformation, & cash, enhanced his own wealth grifting the government for $38+ billion while gaining access to YOUR personal date. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, National Security, citizens, & our standing in the world will pay.
OR...you could say it's run by a self-absorbed, self-serving adolescent jackass who has teamed up with a narcissist with sociopathic tendencies who is in mental decline in a joint effort to turn the US into Putin's toy, both laughing all the way to the bank while the rest of still can't afford eggs.
I would say that the amount of many saved is in the millions, and they are doing this to mask the billions in government contracts going to Elon and the TRILLIONS of dollars in proposed tax cuts for the super rich, which will bankrupt the USA.
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The first step is they have to believe you that the thing is happening.
Wants all of the money that citizens will pay in taxes on items that will now be tariff to be put into a sovereign wealth fund that will become his piggy bank.
So not only will you not have Social Security, but you will now be funding his.
One thing Republicans/Cdn Conservatives knew - once you walk thru the door of ldrship, don't waste a second. Start the moment you're sworn in to effect yr policies.
Dems/Libs wait too long.
JMO
The degree to which we have failed not merely ourselves but also our children and grandchildren is breathtaking.
https://www.theverge.com/elon-musk/61...
Followed
And *we've* been paying the govt for Soc Sec, Medi, SNAP, the VA with our own money since we 1st started working, every paycheck, and he's stealing it from us. That's OUR money. His Co's have taken BILLIONS of our $$$, and he pays next to $0.
Let's face it, no one wants that.
oh for fuck's sake.
I'd go with "a corporate CEO is stealing all the US data to make you pay HIM for things that used to be free"
"Soros is raiding the government!"
Oh no, it's really Musk.
I think people hate and fear A.I., and rightly so.
Most of them can't read beyond a 6th grade level (seriously), and can't act beyond it either, so you have to argue like a 6th grader.
“Republicans are letting unelected billionaires fire the federal workforce that lands our planes, fights forest fires & gives healthcare to our veterans and seniors. They’re also stealing your healthcare and social security $ to fund tax cuts for billionaires.”
https://bsky.app/profile/tmoore88.bsky.social/post/3ljg3nsmozs2y
First $1 paid => evidence of crime in progress
https://bsky.app/profile/andrewperez.bsky.social/post/3ljfn3ygatk2j
Elon cancels $2+ billion FAA contract with Verizon & gives it to StarLink. Elon profits.
Simple, obvious corruption.
It's a really bad argument, makes people look dated and foolish.
They’re stealing money. KISS.
what about, “unelected government contractor” – all his wealth, he’s been building off of public funds. now he’s just cutting out the middle
F*** You peasants.
The popularity of Nazism and adjacent fascism in American was and is obvious. For 80 some years Democrats politely ignored it, for fear of losing the Nazi vote.
E-L-O-N.
... more like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell_effect
...in an ideal world, anyway.
as the words waste fraud and abuse are chanted where the words woke were once used.
Be prepared to have receipts of the direct impacts this is having/ will have on the day to day lives of average people.
As another mentioned below, I would start this by saying "I actually see it differently". Then go on into this.
Republicans raging against their party, ended up working out pretty well for them.
Barely outta high school pricks given the keys to everybody’s personal info including the meds you take to stiffen your dick & examine your monthly porn bills.
https://bsky.app/profile/muellershewrote.bsky.social/post/3ljg4wihca22w
Disingenuous
Oligarchs
Grifting
Everyone
skeet = what you just did, posting something on Bluesky. on Twitter it was called a tweet, on Bsky its a skeet.
🤷🏼♀️ I didn't make the rules
The wider problem is that a critical mass of citizens seems to actually want to just blow it all up. No talking point will deal with that.
Lots of people who aren't hardcore Musk/Trump fans simply aren't aware of what's happening.
https://bsky.app/profile/kendrawrites.com/post/3ljdryu7n5223
It's not hard to explain why DOGE sucks, if you actually think it sucks
What say you, @daveminca.bsky.social - can House Dems rise to the challenge?
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
-- Hitchens's razor
DNC fought for years to convince voters that their plans were better; that even if they weren't perfect, a felon, rapist, conman, insurrectionist... was unacceptable. 77M said no. 89M said meh.
This has to be mostly grass roots. People need the pain.
History shows there’s no other successful Democratic playbook. The US has so many ‘poorly educated’ - 54% read below the sixth grade. They are easily swayed and willfully so.
https://bsky.app/profile/joocifer.bsky.social/post/3lhrhxukls22y
doge sjúga. 總督很糟糕。 доге ӗмет. doge stinker. დოჟი მწოვს. Doge ist scheiße. δόγη χάλια. дож відстій. mae ci yn sugno. doge berbat. дог отстой. डोगे चूषयति। (outtaspace)
Elon is not an elected official.
Absolutely no reason his highly problematic, teenage Discord sycophants need access to classified material and the financial information of millions of Americans and businesses.
1- so they can fire essential employees and render departments useless. Then claim the solution to uselessness is privatization.
2- to eliminate or render ineffective any department that has oversight over any of Elon's businesses
Some government employees do have over a million dollars in their 401k Thrift Savings Program accounts.
A teenager barges into the room, not wearing a mask or surgical scrubs, grabs the scalpel, and hip-checks the surgeon out of the way.
"This is taking too long," the teenager says. And digs in.
Elon Musk is taking our money, so he can be the first trillionaire and the world will call him the first trillionaire for the rest of our time on this planet. That's his goal.
He isn't looking out for you. He thinks everyone who isn't a member of Mar-a-Lago is a "parasite." He called you the "parasite class." He doesn't think you are entitled to your own money.
and not be lured off into debating points of etiquette and language about who is who.
Yarvinists intent on ruining the machinery of state.
"Rules for thee but not for me" libertarians.
Putin puppets hellbent on opening a massive power vacuum for the broligarchy.
Cringe shitcoin merchants.
Traitors.
They socialize their failures and privatize their success.
Parasites. Leeches. Traitorous scum.
When you've come across the best explanation, please share it with us.
It’s not not totally untrue
The amount of federal tax dollars sent to Elon Musk's companies in 2024 is $6,500,000,000
WTF is DOGE doing?
Grand Theft Data
Lil feral hogs rooting around the fertile ground of our life info, truffle hunting our health history, financial transactions, and family treasure to package up and sell to the highest bidders worldwide.
In the worst case, they just destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and don't even save anything.
It is very bad either way.
Imagine how much money a business “saves” if fire your whole sales staff. Probably a lot since you don’t pay them anything now. But if that saves $10k and they were bringing in $500k a year in revenue, how much did you “save”. Elon would say “$10k” and it’s why he is dumb
"Because Elon Musk is in charge".
That's how Elon is trying to find the 'perfect form' of government.
By making departments blow up first. Like your Social Security & Tax Refunds."
Richest guy in the world is unilaterally deciding what we, the people, need and don't need.
He's getting rid of things like cancer research, food safety, and nerds who keep fish stocked right and send out SS checks.
While making sure his private companies get juicy contracts.
2) Their lack of skill puts everyone at risk (data leaks, bad decisions based on faulty understanding)
3) So-called “savings” are actually net negative : a destructive fire costs more than firemen do, plane crashes cost more than FAA agents…
We need open and transparent governance, and a billionaire doing whatever he wants is not that.
It’s about as extreme of a violation of the will of the voter you can ask for.
it was innefficient from inception.
We should stop that
2 Sides with slimy credit card companies over everybody else.
3 on the side of more infectious disease not less.
4 on the side of Elon getting richer and against safe air planes.
...
Imagine if you wrote a check to pay your electric bill, and the bank teller in charge of processing that check just said "Eh, no." Same thing.
Further, they're indiscriminately terminating federal employees and programs without due process and against congressional mandates.
DOGE is wrecking America.
Fire, aim, ready is backwards & destroys.
Not me, though. I'm wealthy.
Also: billionaires don’t care about you, they only care about ways they can get richer ie more tax cuts and more subsidies and more contracts
Musk is not eliminating bureaucracy he's just attempting to replace human bureaucrats with AI robots he controls which people will hate even more.
DOGE isn't following the rules of government transparency.
Well, that and all the blatant conflicts of interest and self dealing and batshit decisions. And the evil.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/01/nx-s1-5313853/doge-savings-receipts-musk-trump
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/01/nx-s1-5313853/doge-savings-receipts-musk-trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/doge-accidentally-fired-federal-staff-who-were-working-to-contain-bird-flu-outbreak-report-says/ar-AA1zm1X2
DOGE is stealing from the Poor to give to the Rich:
Gutting programs for the middle class, seniors and veterans, and laying off thousands of hard working Americans to pay for $4T in tax cuts for the top 1% and nearly $3B in contracts to Tesla and Starlink.
Billionaires are not "us".
We are not them.
They leach off us and hate us at the same time.
And whilst they do that, innocent people will suffer for it.
Same thing happening with the first measles outbreak in 25 years in Texas after anti vaxxer RFK Jr took over HHS.
Now picture that same incompetence for the DOJ, IRS, studen loans, national parks, etc.
* insert folksy americanism for grandma where culturally/geographically appropriate.