“The left needs to have voices that speak to young people!!”
I know I should keep my mouth shut, but I’ve watched at least a dozen smart, passionate, popular left wing content creators get torn to shreds /by the left/ until they retreat either into obscurity or apolitical content.
I know I should keep my mouth shut, but I’ve watched at least a dozen smart, passionate, popular left wing content creators get torn to shreds /by the left/ until they retreat either into obscurity or apolitical content.
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"In this dojo, we believe:
Block first!
Block hard!
No mercy!"
https://bsky.app/profile/mostlybree.kitrocha.com/post/3laem52oyb62x
“You need to get a better website / pictures”
“You need to make phone calls four hours a day asking for money”
“You need to be pro-gun”
I work for the National Park Service. Public lands are quite literally socialism - collectively-owned lands which are collectively managed for the benefit of the people.
Against unjust hierarchies rather than every man for themselves
That said there are as many ideas of what anarchism is as there are people who label themselves as such. (Syndicalist here... Kinda)
Workers already manage things but directed by the few on profit, not need and resourcing. Anarchism proposes methods to organise that avoid power structures. one example of such methods is anarcho syndicalism. How well is capitalism achieving universal health care?
socialism = collective ownership of the means of production
these actually go together perfectly well
The problem in this election is that the older people did not act in accordance with those voices.
We need old listeners to not just hear young voices but also do what they say.
I really enjoy your content and probably will continue to watch it but I think at least I have seen left to be very accommodating across boundaries.
I feel let down.
I honestly hope you have a conversation with Hasan in private/public.
He is very welcoming and chill
He has created a very healthy community who can be weird but warm & inviting.
Maybe check the list of people who've blocked me on Bluesky, & the Block Lists I'm on.
Because I'm:
Racist, transphobic, homophobic, islamophobic, pro-genocide, a NAZI.
(I am none of these things.)
They came here & finding no right wingers to fight, began eating their own. Voraciously.
Right wing creators live in absolute terror of their audience and snap immediately to heel on any issue.
The left, if anything, is much more willing to be kind and lend patience or trust to authority figures.
You will not convince people to pool resources for intangibles like "media" when they already struggle to pay their own bills.
Not Going Back vs Build The Wall is not as effective as Tax The Rich vs Build The Wall.
Messaging must be active, not reactive.
Imagine a world where Harris ran ads telling people Trump's DJT stock is a bribe factory and if they vote for him America's enemies will pay him to fuck us
It’s not a policy critique.
No need to craft a "credible story" when the facts are sufficient.
how would you feel if cops might do a no-knock raid on your house and klil you like they did to Breonna Taylor?
A solid, establishment Democrat with a family and a career won't respond well to "we need to start a revolution and tear everything down."
like medicine. I'd like to not die! none of these revolutionaries are gonna go to India to get me my gabapentin LMAO
I do rather fear we're headed that direction, and I'm not at all convinced what we come out the other side with will be better.
(gaza, health, housing, prices)
did she just not have enough time to hammer that home?
D’s need to toot their own horn much louder and call out R’s cruelty and mistakes much louder.
1. No unified, relentless effort to keep focus on economic consequences of Trump's mishandling of COVID in '20.
2. Biden unable, many Ds unwilling, to push comeback narrative in '23.
3. So no groundwork for Morning in America II in '24.
There can be less argument whether large points already stated are true semantically, but the large points themselves cannot be made with the forethought that it doesn’t matter if they’re true.
The response to having horrible, abusive, coercive, understaffed hospitals shouldn't be "Close all the hospitals." It should be "Build better hospitals and staff them adequately"
Definitions matter. Use AI if time short for evidence.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZoZ2f3MWPNTquH1u5NZWCJGsncqw2UqgHh6sowKvI1A/edit?usp=drivesdk
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vHfbUIQeW_A
https://youtu.be/zaHUNJmw6VY
There’s no space for minor policy disagreements when there’s a whole system to overthrow, and the general public is naturally wary of revolutions.
It had none of the private-public partnership BS of Clinton and Obama. It was ALL “here’s federal bucks, do a thing”.
Harris ran on medicaid expansion and free federal bucks for having kids and buying homes.
It’s incumbent on the left to take ownership of that and promote it for MORE. We didn’t.
Imho it was ever thus.
And then, sadly, it often follows that the few that *can* withstand those attacks also get jaded/corrupt along the way or else are eventually revealed to have been that way all along.
They frequently *are* but that's more just because the establishment doesn't agree with them. But there's no rule of nature that says left = anti-establishment.
Yes, if you meant that they're against *this* establishment, I agree.
I read it as then being against the concept of any establishment in general.
Thanks for clarifying
The young electorate is like this because of the likes of Hasan Piker being the only permitted voice in young political spaces.
He spent most of the last year criticising Harris and being light on Trump. No real coverage.
So when someone has a more nuanced approach, but is relatively on the same side, they divide instead of work together.
No two engineers will ever agree fully with each other while working on a project, but they can still work together to achieve a final product with compromises.
That gets lost these days with the left.
And if you don't come down on the side of an issue in the way they think you should come down on the side of an issue - they will vilify you as crudely and vindictively as the right passing laws for women to die in hospitals of pregnancy complications.
Same closemindedness
Overcoming the atomization of the left into hyper-reactionary, toxic individuals needs to be part of the path forward.
It's hard for leftists invested in an image of radicalism to say "liberal democracy is imperfect but we need put all our energy into defending it against fascism". So they say "it's the liberals' job, they have failed, too bad"...
The defining characteristic of right-wing politics is an authoritian bent though.
I really hope they get off the ex bird site soon and come here
we are in war since one year&more💔
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need your helping& sharing alott
Their leftism isn't a belief in building a better, more compassionate world; their leftism is just oppositional defiant disorder.
The real unity is in small, local organizations doing the work every single day. We just need to be better at building national power.
The GOP has the Billionaire backing to infiltrate EVERYTHING.
FD Signifier
Alice Capelle
Mexie
PhilosophyTube
Foreign Man in a Foreign Land
Sophie From Mars
chriswaves
Jack Saint
But most of those voices are bullied off of the popular spaces like twitch.
1) Fans of Mike Cernovich when I made fun of his shirt
2) Fans of some lefty podcast guy (Cody..?) when I said his opinion on Star Wars was silly.
"Nobody will engage with me! What about all that liberal tolerance"
They've written articles about it in mainstream media to complain. It's amazing.
Block early. Block often. If the vibes are wrong, go ahead and block.
Im tired of begging ppl to do the bare minimum or even care about the issues we face.
The argument is always to do nothing. To let the country collapse no matter how many ppl we would doom through inaction.
Its exhausting and infuriating.
Who were these young commentators torn apart by the left?
You can watch him on jubilee or actually willing to debate the right wing alt media people that just won Trump the presidicency.. pushed to the periphery over a deliberate misinterpretation of a comment whilst live.
Gens past needed to first gain access things like video, so we learned to normalize to the audience.
Maybe you don’t need to be a worldwide/national streamer at a time when your grasp of the world of people you’re broadcasting to is tenuous at best. 🤷
Whiny “bad take” havers seem to latch onto the literal childhood lesson that “everyone is entitled to an opinion” but lack lessons like “freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequence” or “your opinion is hurtful/bad.”
Being from Brazil, where we have a party that grew from Marxist ideologies in power, I can only see Far-Right (REP) and Center-Right (DEM) in the US.
What do you mean by "left"?
That leaves a LOT of room for variable beliefs from the true left to JUST left of center. And unfortunately a lot of bigots, too.
And there's no logical explanation for GOP voters. (There were fewer of them than they were when he lost in 2020.) They vote based on who they hate.
There is a concrete definition of what "Center" means in politics, and the Overton window shows that "our Center" is well to the Right of true Center. US "Center" is actually Right.
"Center" means nothing when you try to move it around.
So glad it didn't work, I'm not sure I could've gone through the deranged smear campaigns and ostracization he's been through.
the leeeeeeffffftttt
👻👻👻
My Boomer ass is with MVP Harris: I LOVE Gen-Z, primarily bc they are the first genuinely intersectional generation I've seen in my lifetime.
And their hatred for institutions knows no bounds.
Don't know how they convinced themselves that a long-running, systemic background problem is worse than an immediate threat, but whatever :P
A little bit misplaced optimism & a fair bit of hubris, both of which come from privilege. 1/2
I could survive without those safety nets if I had to (as a cis, white, educated homeowner I have a lot of social capital).
2/3
Thank you for coming to my ted talk. 3/3
This is the Disinformation Age after all.
I stumbled into safe spaces to ask questions without being condemned for not already knowing, which helped tons. Not all of us were that lucky.
Even typing this out makes me feel nervous.
My family of origin is still very right wing. I absolutely understand your anxiety.
I lucked into an amazing writing Discord at some point, and slowly realized I was the most conservative person there. 😂 No going back after that. 🥰 I am so grateful they put up with me, I love them all dearly.
I love microblogging, but it's not really conducive to meaningful engagement.
what’s it called?
If you mean what is "their" youtube thingy, that would be Rumble. Did he join that 🤔 he had mentioned 'getting out there', rogan etc. and can get his point across. couldnt hurt.
Thank You!✌🏻☮️😃🫶🏻💙🇺🇸
Your average American probably hasn't heard of The Business Plot.
For example I went to the Pride parade and I was chastised by another queer person on Instagram because it was sponsored by a couple of companies that were boycotted for Palestine.
The left can’t agree on which direction to go because all directions are equally important, so we go nowhere.
Y'all gotta ask why 15 million people stayed home.
Who are the leaders of the American left right now?
I could easily list at least half a dozen very prominent right wing leaders in the US, but I don't even know who to listen to here for serious activism organizing.
(Yet even they would never pass the outsider test of their own purity)
Is "The Left" in the US an actual thing, or is it just a massive uncategorized bucket of everyone thats not far right?
But I’m not sure it’s *shitty*.
I assume a lot of people are coping as best they can. For example, posting here does nothing to hurt Leon Muks, but it feels better at the moment.
(and, in the case of the ACP, pretty transphobic unfortunately, or so I've heard)
Right now we must commune and fight
Shush your mouth.
Describing young men, who've just voted for our candidate, as "young boys" is a level of condescension that might make even Andrew Tate seem appealing.
And as far as I can tell it's much more prevalent on the Left.
"A high profile & a thin skin are a terrible combination."
Hence my current self-imposed obscurity.
its almost like once you reach a certain perceived threshold you aren't human anymore. it needs to change.
It's Chinatown.
I'm honestly terrified to tell people half the time. But it's privileged to be able to hate it right? We can only hate it because we are NOT Ukraine right now.
Left spaces are so busy in fighting that they forget they're supposed to be doing good
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It’s like the football coaching trees: how big is Pelosi’s? Schumer’s? I feel it’s shaped like a telephone poll.
"the left has abandoned X group" is just right-wing grievence poltiics being dressed up as a bottom of the barrel "critique" of the left. /2
They're good at though, taking groups for granted.
We eat our own.
😓
I know a bunch who are fascists who smoke weed and know their privilege will protect them from fascism
Then at best they are hopelessly naive as an adult and in some ways that's just as dangerous as selfish or malicious.
I make common cause with them over things like criminal justice and police reform. And some of them I just nuclear block
Especially older people who have spent basically their entire lives engaging with younger people.
If you believe in "the Capitalist Mind Prison", and you're media savvy, *and* also aware of a massive audience divide... actually saying the words "Capitalist Mind Prison" to someone on the other side of the divide is not media literacy.
It is as infantilizing as a lot of the takes are about engaging with the youth.
Like, you're not going to get anywhere.
What, you gonna call me western chauvinist decadent next? Maybe a Trotskyist? Threaten to Gulag me?
Traveling to another country to have sex with young girls? Are you serious??
Evaluate it yourself
The democrats are held to a different standard.
It needs to stop. The weapons of the enemy will not and can not ever save us.
https://bsky.app/profile/duanemoody.qwiffer.com/post/3lacsynt6ni2q
The online left is dogshit cancerous dramatubers with lefty aesthetics.
If I have to commend the right on anything, they're VERY good at banding together and building coalitions between their various groups.
I'm solidly in "the left needs to let racists and uneducated idiots get what's coming to them from now on" mode.
It's not my job to save people from the dire, fatal consequences they so richly deserve.
If you want a good life, move to the U.S. west coast. Otherwise, bye Felicia.
End of line
"You need to put in work and do better'
When they're being sold cheap easy excuses where nothing is their fault & that they should take their anger out on everyone else...
Not to mention they're opposing international gov interferences.
Boys and men of Gen Z seem to end up in this weird, right-wing, masculinity pipeline.
I don’t know how you fix that though.
"Hi I'm Dave Bautista..."
Left wing content tends to be about building up a vision of the future which opens up the opportunity to criticise the foundations thats based on.
you've made the world a worse place. go to hell.
We should wait until the night of the long knives and then emerge as a howling mob.
Luke Beasley
Adam Mockler
Harry Sisson
I hope they can come here, many people are asking them.