They will, likely be timing up with Anthropic's Claude or Perplexity, but its coming. The engineers have already began laying out the ground work for such support.
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By publicly dismissing the idea to the CEO in that tone, you may have just killed the slim chance of ever seeing LLM integration in Signal. Even if it was secretly on her roadmap, I'd imagine it’s now scrapped and blacklisted, just to spite people like you.
Please keep explaining this to the company's CEO in increasingly condescending ways. We haven't had a volunteer dipshit dig themselves this deep in days.
I have a Mansplain Olympic Tryouts folder of about 120 fine specimens and someday the playoffs will come. I hope you will attend and cheer for the most manly most splainy of them all.
Wow, straight to the name calling. No need to get hostile, but to answer your question - one doesn't have to be a genius to figure out the road map especially when the president has already tipped their hat as how they operated in the past. Signal went from a text message to a social app.
How is Signal a social app? Nobody has publicly accessible profiles. You can't broadcast messages to every user on the service. It's not owned or run by an egomaniac. And it's not currently leaking incredibly personal information like MetaAI. So that makes it the exact opposite of social media.
If the trend then becomes leveraging LLM on some level in messaging apps then that's where Signal will pivot to. Telegram one of its chief rivals was flirting with Grok. Meta which has three apps on the market has Llama integration. I have the benefit of heighten pattern recognition.
No, you claimed that Signal engineers have already started laying the groundwork. That would imply you know something specific (or were blustering) not that you can "rEcOgnIzE pAtTeRnS". But you don't know, you think. You could have said "i think signal will, in the future" and thats very different
Telegram outright made a deal to exclusively provide grok. There's nothing in Signal's open-source code to suggest anything to do with AI is being developed. But if you've found contrary evidence, please link to the commit(s). https://github.com/signalapp
The president of the company has literally just told you that this isn't happening. Are you high? Is that where your heighten [sic] pattern recognition comes from?
Hey Bill! Quick question: what pattern are you recognising? The Grok/Telegram deal didn't happen, Meta's integration of Llama is them following a trend for what appears to be negative revenue gain - I'm also not sure why you think they'd integrate LLMs?
So yes, I do think I have a better insight than the president of the company. I'll wait while you try to remind me that Signal is non-profit, and I retort with something clever like "And how do you developers feed themselves".
Admitting that you don’t understand how nonprofit organizations work doesn’t really signal a high level of functioning in the analysis of nonprofit organizations future actions.
3. A nonprofit organisation is not the same as a business that makes a loss. Doubtless you can check Signal's accounts if you want to know how their operating costs are funded.
4. I simply cannot advise you how to develop even a shred of self-awareness. You're on your own there.
Notwithstanding the claim in your profile, you do not in fact speak fluent sarcasm.
You do show a cavalier attitude to woke stuff like having a verb in a sentence or using apostrophes as well as a seventh grader, but that’s just fecklessness, not sarcasm.
Lots of reasons for you to be embarrassed here but none more than not understanding how non-profits operate. Guess you do need to be a genius to figure out their roadmap.
congratulations on your perfect ratio, 76 replies, 32 quotes, 2 reposts, zero likes.
You got so high on your own supply you doubled down on "nuh uh I know better than the person who literally has the most insight possible into a thing" lmao
I predict you're going to be waiting a long time, because she appears to have moved on to something actually worth her time hours ago. My "insight" is that she's already forgotten you exist.
How fucking high on your own flatulence do you have to be to post this hubristic string of bullshit & not spontaneously combust from the second-hand embarrassment emanating from just your own zip code?
Asking because I feel this is the single topic that you might have some insight on.
Signed,
The furry that publicly audited Signal's cryptography earlier this year and has been warning people about messaging apps that adopt AI bullshit.
So, since everyone else is enshitifying, Signal must as well? Given where they are, that would be a good way to destroy their brand, if you may as well use Facebook, people will use Facebook. The incentives for the long term are to maintain differentiation.
My brother, when you’re saying “yes, I do think I have a better insight than the president of the company” it is definitively time to log off. Account deletion also warrants consideration, but logging off is not up for debate.
That doesn't sound like a very clever retort, FWIW. Being in tech you should know what people value in Signal, & LLM integration is VERY MUCH NOT that.
this genuinely might be the single dumbest series of replies I've seen on this website. You had president of the company go "na we aren't doing that" and you just vibed your way into "um no actually I'm right."
Truly astounding levels of unwarranted confidence here
This isn’t some interview answer being coy about future plans, or even a mere “not something we’re doing.” It’s explicitly ADVERTISING as a positive thing that they aren’t doing it
has someone already posted the “my confidence vs. your expertise” new yorker cartoon or should I go ahead and get it out of the cupboard so it can air out before I post it
Do you think not knowing the difference between 'non-profit' and 'non-funded' is a clever response? Just making sure you think that basic comprehension failures are defined as clever?
Like you know non profits can make money, right? You know they are allowed to earn money, yeah? Specifically to cover the costs of maintaining whatever service they’re providing?
Like legally, they can’t just have the execs pocket the money they earn, it has to go towards the org’s purpose
It's like a belligerent, but ultimately inchoate form of "doubling down on and initially malformed idea because of vibes" that you assume everyone else shares.
Signal may yet someday succumb to a poor idea, but signs of AI integration, which goes against it's privacy as a central tenet, seem off.
This is absolutely hilarious. I didn't think people actually had this level of audacity anymore, but clearly, I was wrong. Ironically, "I was wrong" is what you could have said to avoid getting dragged.
You're making some great points and arguments but the question I just can't find an answer to here is, have you received severe blunt force trauma to the head recently, such as perhaps having been kicked in the head by a horse
My Lord in heaven give me a fraction of this confidence—mediocre nobody mansplaining a woman’s company to her for the whole world to see without a hint of shame.
I dunno if it's funnier that you didn't know this was the president of Signal and you found out and doubled down to sound smart or if you did know and were like "no I know more than she does because I have pattern recognition"
you do not have better insight than the president of the company, and I would consider the optics of talking over a woman and telling her know you better than her about the company she literally runs
If Signal were to include an LLMs within it, functionally its' entire core user base would IMMEDIATELY stop using it! Absolutely, the second that they discover that is is in there, they'd start the process of removing it!
Lolz. And how does "the benefit of heighten (sic) pattern recognition" illuminate and inform your mansplaining statement that the "engineers have already began laying out the ground work for such support."
You really ought to just own up to your pomposity and mutter a mea culpa. It's easy.
Yeah I can't imagine why the president of a highly privacy focused app, famous for having something resembling trust among anyone who cares about privacy, might see a risk in exposing their users to AI that other chat apps don't care about
And out of those companies - Telegram, Meta, & Signal, do you think their users are the same? Only @signal.org has a brand for the highest security where users’ threat models & safety are centered in product design. I believe Meredith & alignment to company mission over your GenAI fever dream.
Got it . Your tiny pecker makes you think you know more than the president just because she’s a woman. You AI tech bros are repulsive. I can’t wait for AI to blow up in your faces and you need to look for a real job from your pathetic basement
It probably has yet to occur to you, but the easiest way to keep people from calling you a dipshit is, and I know you're not gonna believe this, not acting like a dipshit.
In what alternat universe do you live that Signal does anything that would count as a "social app"? It does text, voice, and video, and only to contacts you have previously established. There's nothing social media about it.
Congratulations. You have made the Mansplaining Hall of Fame. Screenshots of your interactions will be shared for years to come. You should be very proud. 👏
so you just make shit up then? can't imagine people would want to hire someone like that. you're doing this where everyone can see it, with your face and full name attached lmao
Seeing he says about himself ‘I speak fluent sarcasm’ … I don’t know if that’s some mild edgelord or—I don’t know, that’s some thing to say about oneself
Right?? Like he COULD have said “I don’t trust you when you say that because xyz.” But he didn’t use YOU, he used THEY, because he was being a dingus and can’t admit it 😂
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https://bsky.app/profile/sataithegray.bsky.social/post/3lrujwmxckk2k
https://github.com/signalapp
a lot less
mainly to avoid blunders like this in the future
He would still have to buy that van from someone
ever think about that
absolutely amazing
sorry for the nonsense you have to put up with MW
Right?
🤦🏼
Are you just going to be like my cat, and lick your pay and pretend that nothing happened?
https://bsky.app/profile/askbillmitchell.bsky.social/post/3lrta4cqcpc2k
Idiots will dare anything, that's how you can tell.
I certainly wouldn't "ask Bill Mitchell" anything about proper English.
Sigh
A well, actually.
also I pay y’all, very good stuff, please keep it up
👏👏👏
William, William, William.
What'd we learn?
You seem to be a very specific dipshit.
https://bsky.app/profile/cjsmith.bsky.social/post/3lrtstrzvwc25
But guess you are the CEO of heightened pattern recognition.
Signal? You've got multiple signals zapping between those brain cells.
*cites a "pattern" of ... 2*
Very not heighten pattern recognition.
1. Many people see LLM/AI integration in a product as an anti-feature. Rejecting it is a benefit not a drawback.
2. When the boss of a company explicitly rules something out we can reasonably take it at face value.
4. I simply cannot advise you how to develop even a shred of self-awareness. You're on your own there.
Please do a reality check here on your own statements.
You do show a cavalier attitude to woke stuff like having a verb in a sentence or using apostrophes as well as a seventh grader, but that’s just fecklessness, not sarcasm.
"They literally report to me and you are wrong"
"Well actually..."
I can't get over this. What a gift you've given the Internet.
This last.. whatever was what caught my attention.
Of course you have zero idea how Signal operates and their plans— you don’t even understand the basics of how non-profits fucking operate.
Fucking embarrassing.
nobody asked you for anything to begin with, bill.
You got so high on your own supply you doubled down on "nuh uh I know better than the person who literally has the most insight possible into a thing" lmao
Asking because I feel this is the single topic that you might have some insight on.
Most hospitals in the us are non-profit, and doctors eat pretty well.
this is mansplaining in the form of a long-term nuclear waste warning message
Signed,
The furry that publicly audited Signal's cryptography earlier this year and has been warning people about messaging apps that adopt AI bullshit.
Just cosmic levels of arrogance and misplaced confidence.
Non-profit is not non-income, you eejit
White men, is there nothing they don’t think they know?
I would've died of embarrassment when I realized who that was, but you just kept on going. It must be really nice to be unable to feel shame.
Posting through it and shit like this just makes you an asshole.
You and I were smart enough to ignore that and not follow back.
Don’t need your money
This isn’t some interview answer being coy about future plans, or even a mere “not something we’re doing.” It’s explicitly ADVERTISING as a positive thing that they aren’t doing it
Put your money down, then. I'm good for $1000, and I'll bet that the president of Signal will take that bet for as much as you want to wager.
You wouldn’t say this shit if it were a man, and we all know it.
Payroll goes under "expenses."
So, profit comes after paying the employees.
Maybe learn the bare bones of accounting before going around saying "I know better."
CLASSIC. The mansplainer of all Mansplainers
Congratulations! 👏👏🥳🎉
Way too many follow back without checking if they should…
Like legally, they can’t just have the execs pocket the money they earn, it has to go towards the org’s purpose
No other note.
ugh you’re such a tech bro smh 😒
Signal may yet someday succumb to a poor idea, but signs of AI integration, which goes against it's privacy as a central tenet, seem off.
Because Serena is a kind woman and after she scores the thousandth point against me she will let me score a pity point so I stop crying.
It's not an open source project on GitHub.
I lean back in my superiority. I have won.
"Uh," they reply, "Non profit doesn't mean people don't get paid, you fucking twit."
Interesting. I hadn't considered this. But they were mean so I still win.
Signed,
A Tractor.
Oh, also, I often use sarcasm as a defense mechanism when challenged on my genius."
just....wow.
Tell me you don't use Signal or in fact understand anything substantive about it or the reasons for its appeal without telling me....
Signal - well-known trend follower.
🙄
You really ought to just own up to your pomposity and mutter a mea culpa. It's easy.
Learn how to admit you got caught bullshitting. Humility might do you some good.
https://bsky.app/profile/askbillmitchell.bsky.social/post/3lrta4cqbq22k
No, you don't.
Thanks for the laugh, Bill!
Wow. Just wow.
Wow
You have the benefit of heightened pattern recognition?
Please find the pattern
Maybe own up to what a fucking idiot you were in that moment, if you want anyone to ever take you seriously again.
This always comes off as the whiniest shit.
Like an idiot.
Dunning Krueger, personified.
Misogyny is a hell of a drug.
idk about the sarcasm thing tho, doesn't look like you have the chops
* Mansplaining Lame-O
This is either unsourced head up ass know it all speculation, or a troll by someone who enjoys public humiliation on the internets.
Fud.
Are all Bill Mitchells like this?