True story: a few years ago, I was being interviewed by a reporter for the New York Times. I mentioned the history of eviction statutes and how they tied into Jim Crow.
The reporter asked "what's Jim Crow?"
When I explained, the reporter didn't believe me and said the US wouldn't do that.
The reporter asked "what's Jim Crow?"
When I explained, the reporter didn't believe me and said the US wouldn't do that.
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a good example of how the world is getting dumber. the new politico playbook writer didn't know who FDR was until a reader told him about that whole "new deal" thing. this newsletter is read by every important person in DC.
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The Union/US didn’t want Jim Crow, but Booth’s bullet effectively ended the Union plan for Reconstruction so abruptly & so early, that it was entirely usurped by Confederate policy makers.
The CSA (insurgency) “did” Jim Crow.
Starting today? This is my go-to source to refresh US history for myself, and it has primary & secondary sources for further reading
It won’t engage in the kind of analysis argument I made (only Douglass staying in an influential position could have driven successful Recon), but gives what you’d
Instead we got Lost Cause, Jim Crow, Wilmington insurrection, & on to today’s private voucher & history erasure movement
Huge parts of our history are omitted and erased through methodical economic, funding, and political policies designed to achieve this exact outcome.
A pillar for all unjust policy
Ex: defacing Stonewall; abuses of deportees in Panama
As always, “My liberation is bound up in yours”
I called it an insurgency for a reason. The failure to break the wealth and power of the Confederate policy makers allowed them to achieve in defeat what they failed to do in war
Also, Johnson’s active opposition (even despite veto overrides) starts the chronic underinvestment that leads to the 1876/7 crisis
The Compromise of 1877 officially ends Recon. in exchange for Dems recognizing Hayes’ election. But, imo, Dems having the power to force a crisis means it was already functionally over
By the time Heyes is president ten years later, imo, Union Recon. was already dead of resource starvation.
Of course I've met some genuinely ignorant motherfuckers who seem to go out of their way not to know things so 🤷
Imma have to fact check you on that one.
That was a clarifying moment when I realized some people are always gonna lean into the wrong thing.
I hate the way we don’t teach history in this country.
Real
Slavery, sharecropping...
*sputters*
always a "hoot and a hollah"
"alternative facts"
that agenda was overt racism.
No matter, though. What's concerning is the pushback. That's deliberate denialism.
The country's collective skeletons in the closet.🤦♀️
hoping for a shining example of modern journalism doing good.
This obviously opens the question of “why can’t they afford something else” but rationalization doesn’t usually need to go further
It’s really easy to rationalize, especially when all the black people live on the other side of town.
Steinberg's recurring piece was subtitled, "I read Bob so you don't have to."
Tragedy is some bigoted white parents home schooled their kids after black kids entered the school system and denied their white kids a proper education.
My son, who went to school here, learned about the Great Migration when he was writing college papers for cash and his friend hired him to write one on it.
If you were staging a racist coup to bring this country back to the halcyon days of the Dred Scott decision, Plessy v Ferguson, and the Chinese Exclusion Act, would you want to try it on a well-informed populace?
Civil war
Plessy
Brown
Rosa Parks
And then Dr MLK's speech inspired congress to pass civil rights acts and now racism is over.
It did not spend time on anything at all.
(Clearly they found a way. I'm just ... I'm having trouble imagining it.)
Sometimes you focus all on the movement, and not on what they were fighting.
E.g. You mention Ruby Bridges without mentioning _why_ she was the first black student at her school despite Brown v. Board being decided before she was born.
Like look I'm an American millennial I remember my lackluster education in this but, like, the fact that there was a body of discriminatory law was mentioned, and it sounded above like a bunch of people didn't even have a vague awareness of that.
They hear "I Have A Dream" and they think racism was kitchen table snobbery, then they pencil in the answer for "I Have A Dream Speech" on a test and it means nothing to them.
A shame, because they were inspirational.
Anyway, our whole society was whitewashed from the beginning. YAY?
I suppose it’s enough to know the NYT employed them.
NuhUHfuckingHELL
My god
Holy hell, "what's Jim Crow?" Is up there with Holocaust denialism... I'm sure the end game for both is the same, too.
There’s no excuse for that level of historical ignorance.
I think the biggest way I was failed is not connecting the dots in terms of old things still being relevant.
But.. for that matter I didn't learn about the Dakota 38+2 or the Punitive Expedition of 1863 until I was out of college.. everybody has gaps.
Brandon Sanderson in the Way of Kings writes a good thing about being opened minded I like too. To very poorly Paraphrase: Got to treat thoughts like food. Its good to try a number of things, but best to have some understanding first
Now a days he is famous for being in a Lana Del Rey song.
😉
When I pushed them on powering through to teach harder, they gave me a very haggard look…
Still mad at this reporter and union rep though.
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
in 1965
he claims that the street that separated the white and colored parts of town was "Lincoln Avenue"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdRAuBuZMNQ
I have a co-worker in her late 40s, who, after I told her my father had been enslaved by the Third Reich, say, “What’s that?”
It explains everything.
Those who REFUSE TO LEARN from HISTORY are DOOMED to REPEAT IT.
willing to bet $ they were homeschooled or from a diff region.
The New Journalism: if it happened before Google did it really happen?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/06/axel-springer-politico-media-scandal-germany-bild/
I’m on about the UK.
It’s up there with ‘Jesus Freakin’ Chrysanthemums.’
The worst part was this guy resorting to Wikipedia (BTW, love it, use it daily, send $ to support it) and then, wink, wink, inviting us to share the joke.
Don't like chewing but they sure can swallow
Wasn't that way in my younger days
There's something wrong with kids these days...
Let it burn burn burn
Let it burn..."
I know what Jim Crow is. How does a 𝑵𝒆𝒘 𝒀𝒐𝒓𝒌 𝑻𝒊𝒎𝒆𝒔 𝒋𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒏𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕 not know what Jim Crow is?!
Who the hell is that interviewer, and why did they skip history lessons???
*How* did they skip history lessons, even???
https://medium.com/@thcarter123/the-old-gray-lady-aint-what-she-used-to-be-a-decade-of-failing-to-persuade-the-new-york-times-to-8c3ab0dcea5e
The Nazis learned policy from!
100% YES. It’s in part why I began #TheTimeline. Things I’d “heard of” but didn’t totally understand. I sure as hell do NOW.
Here’s a refresher (just on Jim Crow for folks). Download the PDF or view online.
It’s WORD-SEARCHABLE. And constantly getting updated.
🔎🧩 Link in bio.
1/2
How does a British man (me) know about this and a journalist at the NYT doesn’t
(laughing not in the happy way)
To create an undereducated, uneducated cheap labor working class
However, and I cannot overstate this, we are raised to be proud of our ignorance. Not to mention that, for most people, ‘the other side of the globe’ might as well mean someone on the West Coast.
I wouldn't be surprised if "Art of the Deal" was now required instead.
And now it looks like it's coming back, and sadly this time the whole country is joining in. #alabamification
https://www.facingsouth.org/2019/04/twisted-sources-how-confederate-propaganda-ended-souths-schoolbooks
I found it in a used bookstore only about 10 years ago and bought it to show people who deny its "teachings." 1/2
So we hardly said a peep in opposition when she said "the blacks" should be grateful to have been "civilized and Christianized" away from Africa. 2/2
The maps were lovely. :-|
For now, it's a great way to get items to the wonderful archivist hoarder nerds who safeguard humanity's collective knowledge.
Why should anyone care about it? isn’t it alright to just live for the moment, all the while leaving a trail of destruction behind you?
Our culture is eager to be entertained not enlightened. Drugged not aware. Numbed to truth.
aside from their "news" being dressed up marching orders, their booklist is gamed, you can buy books of crossword puzzles at the dollar store.
stop giving oxygen to the propaganda industrial complex
Uhhhhhhh
You could have made the same point w/o the inference that she was complicit in the ignorance of the reporter.
I'm quite sure that's not what you meant, but ppl are sensitive in these matters.
Ultimately, it's the fault of @nytimes.com for having such low standards for their reporters.
He's why we're where we are
Well. One of the reasons
Jaysus
There's a historical marker in downtown about how Chinatown burned down that year, somehow.
Charter schooled
Home schooled by ignorant racist GOPers
S A D
The party line was "Well, that was in the past, and we're not racist now".
The US did *slavery* and this reported thinks we're above some apartheid?
…WHO THE FUCK EDITS OUR HISTORY BOOKS!?
Okay, I HAVE heard that first part. But you make an excellent second point! Yowzers.
It's highly likely she's working at a network somewhere.
The producer paused and said "in AMERICA?"
Yeah.